The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 4

[Herolee10]

I have a crazy theory; Mason Bridge (Iris's Boss) is future Barry. He knows that Wells is evil, but like him is losing/lost his connection to the Speed force so it just a normal guy, but is collecting evidence against Wells.

 

[Spooderman]

Well if Barry traveled back to 1998, he might still be around. Whatever caused Eobard to lose the connection with the Speed Force also might have affected Barry and have him be stranded as well.

Bridge is the only person we know who has suspicion of Wells, and is giving the team clues. He might have chosen the job as a reporter to both be able to investigate, and spend time with Iris.

 

[Bathead]

Prove me wrong.

You're the one that posited this theory, it's your responsibility to provide evidence to prove your assertion. You have to prove you're right. All I've seen from you so far is pure guesswork.

 

[Spooderman]

You're the one that posited this theory, it's your responsibility to provide evidence to prove your assertion. You have to prove you're right. All I've seen from you so far is pure guesswork.

You're new to fandoms aren't you?

 

[Dark Raven]

You're new to fandoms aren't you?

Bathead: Join date: Jan 2004

Spooderman: Join date: Jan 2014

I have to laugh.

 

[Herolee10]

Well if Barry traveled back to 1998, he might still be around. Whatever caused Eobard to lose the connection with the Speed Force also might have affected Barry and have him be stranded as well.

Bridge is the only person we know who has suspicion of Wells, and is giving the team clues. He might have chosen the job as a reporter to both be able to investigate, and spend time with Iris.

 

[Travesty]

 

[Herolee10]

Looks like "Deathbolt" will be traveling to Central City after his confrontation with "Arrow".

http://tvline.com/2015/03/21/the-flash-deathbolt-rogues-gallery/

 

[Bathead]

You're new to fandoms aren't you?

It's got nothing to do with "fandom", it's a matter of making statements and not backing them up and asking others to prove you're wrong. It doesn't work that way

 

[Bathead]

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[Dark Raven]

Looks like "Deathbolt" will be traveling to Central City after his confrontation with "Arrow".

http://tvline.com/2015/03/21/the-flash-deathbolt-rogues-gallery/

Which one was Deathbolt? Have we seen him yet?

 

[Herolee10]

Which one was Deathbolt? Have we seen him yet?

He hasn't appeared on "Arrow" as of yet. He's set to make his first appearance on "Arrow" in Season's Episode 19 I believe. And I believe he'll be the first Meta-Human (non-Mirakuru) villain to appear on the show.

 

[Spooderman]

It's got nothing to do with "fandom", it's a matter of making statements and not backing them up and asking others to prove you're wrong. It doesn't work that way

All fan theories are based on guesswork. The only way to prove them is to look at the leaked scripts or talk with the writers.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Looks like "Deathbolt" will be traveling to Central City after his confrontation with "Arrow".

http://tvline.com/2015/03/21/the-flash-deathbolt-rogues-gallery/

I'm guessing there will be a costume update....

 

[batdude]

Spooderman,Not entirely. I have read a lot of the Flash/Green Arrow/Firestorm/ Batman comics and to be honest I can guess things 80% of the time from that.

 

[allthingsuper]

Im interested to see how they make his powers district from Blackout, since it's the same basic concept.

 

[SpideyVille]

Looks like "Deathbolt" will be traveling to Central City after his confrontation with "Arrow".

http://tvline.com/2015/03/21/the-flash-deathbolt-rogues-gallery/

I would love to see this more often. I know we got Clock King on both shows, but I would love to see villains go from one show or another. Doesn't have to happen with every villain, but a little more hints that these universes are shared wouldn't hurt.

 

[Eni]

Well if Barry traveled back to 1998, he might still be around. Whatever caused Eobard to lose the connection with the Speed Force also might have affected Barry and have him be stranded as well.

Bridge is the only person we know who has suspicion of Wells, and is giving the team clues. He might have chosen the job as a reporter to both be able to investigate, and spend time with Iris.

Hi, I am pretty sure you appreciate how many of the members of this forum like to "discuss" ideas of others they don't agree with.

I think it is a interesting theory you have there, I generally like the possiblity that a future Barry could also be stuck in the past. It probably is not true, though.

My reasons for this are as follows:

Bridge joined the cast of the series pretty late and I think if they really intended another person to be the Barry Allen from the future they would have introduced him quite early one.

Regarding Iris, I think he really assumed that she is quite a bimbo in the beginning and this is clearly not what Barry would think, especially one from the future, as he is most likely married to her there.

I also think that future version of Barry would be more pro-active by now, should he also still be around. Why let Eobard get that much influence over his own past self? I am pretty sure he would have contacted the young Barry by now in that case.

Aside from that, I think Bridge as a character is simply not very appealing. He isn't exactly made out to be likeable and I think this is a very essential thing regarding the theory of him possibly being Barry from the future.

Also, they showed a brief clip in the trailer where the RF attacked Bridge and it doesn't look like that guy stands a chance. Then again, it was just a brief clip, so you can't really say that much about it.

This theory just doesn't look very likely to me. It would be cool, though, if we had a future Barry around the whole time without picking up on it.

 

[just one thing]

Hi, I am pretty sure you appreciate how many of the members of this forum like to "discuss" ideas of others they don't agree with.

I think it is a interesting theory you have there, I generally like the possiblity that a future Barry could also be stuck in the past. It probably is not true, though.

My reasons for this are as follows:

Bridge joined the cast of the series pretty late and I think if they really intended another person to be the Barry Allen from the future they would have introduced him quite early one.

Regarding Iris, I think he really assumed that she is quite a bimbo in the beginning and this is clearly not what Barry would think, especially one from the future, as he is most likely married to her there.

I also think that future version of Barry would be more pro-active by now, should he also still be around. Why let Eobard get that much influence over his own past self? I am pretty sure he would have contacted the young Barry by now in that case.

Aside from that, I think Bridge as a character is simply not very appealing. He isn't exactly made out to be likeable and I think this is a very essential thing regarding the theory of him possibly being Barry from the future.

Also, they showed a brief clip in the trailer where the RF attacked Bridge and it doesn't look like that guy stands a chance. Then again, it was just a brief clip, so you can't really say that much about it.

This theory just doesn't look very likely to me. It would be cool, though, if we had a future Barry around the whole time without picking up on it.

bridge is schooling iris though so not completely dismissing her, didn't notice that about RF attacking him so the theory probably is out, but agree it is cool or a cheeky one for them if they went with it.

 

[Eni]

bridge is schooling iris though so not completely dismissing her, didn't notice that about RF attacking him so the theory probably is out, but agree it is cool or a cheeky one for them if they went with it.

I haven't picked up on the RF attack on my own either but I saw it in this trailer review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjux1I96jdc

It is pretty interesting to watch and that guy spots much more than I ever would have.

 

[Spooderman]

Hi, I am pretty sure you appreciate how many of the members of this forum like to "discuss" ideas of others they don't agree with.

I think it is a interesting theory you have there, I generally like the possiblity that a future Barry could also be stuck in the past. It probably is not true, though.

My reasons for this are as follows:

Bridge joined the cast of the series pretty late and I think if they really intended another person to be the Barry Allen from the future they would have introduced him quite early one.

Well prior to Episode 10, there was not much for Mason to do. Iris wasn't working with them, and Wells has kept a low profile.

Regarding Iris, I think he really assumed that she is quite a bimbo in the beginning and this is clearly not what Barry would think, especially one from the future, as he is most likely married to her there.

It might just be an act to throw the characters and audience off.

Plus, we don't know if he's married to her. He's probably from a timeline where his mother didn't die so he didn't live with Joe and Iris for most of his life.

I also think that future version of Barry would be more pro-active by now, should he also still be around. Why let Eobard get that much influence over his own past self? I am pretty sure he would have contacted the young Barry by now in that case.

He might not have known who Wells was, and probably didn't have the ability to stop him anyhow. Right now Barry is tied up with Eobard/Wells, and as long as Wells is upholding his facade, Barry and Co are safe.

Plus, how would he prove to Barry that he's right? Barry looks up to Wells, and because he's from a different timeline, he might not be able to prove he's future Barry. I guess he could talk about their childhood, but he might not remember anything significant enough to show who he would be.

Aside from that, I think Bridge as a character is simply not very appealing. He isn't exactly made out to be likeable and I think this is a very essential thing regarding the theory of him possibly being Barry from the future.

Well that puts him in contrast with Wells, who is an appealing likable character who turned out to be evil. They might call him the reverse.

Of course it's possible that alternate universe Barry is a jerk, and that Zolomon was right and suffering builds character.

Also, they showed a brief clip in the trailer where the RF attacked Bridge and it doesn't look like that guy stands a chance. Then again, it was just a brief clip, so you can't really say that much about it.

For "Rogue time"? I rewatched it and didn't see that scene, but I didn't see it.

 

[Eni]

Well prior to Episode 10, there was not much for Mason to do. Iris wasn't working with them, and Wells has kept a low profile.



It might just be an act to throw the characters and audience off.

Plus, we don't know if he's married to her. He's probably from a timeline where his mother didn't die so he didn't live with Joe and Iris for most of his life.



He might not have known who Wells was, and probably didn't have the ability to stop him anyhow. Right now Barry is tied up with Eobard/Wells, and as long as Wells is upholding his facade, Barry and Co are safe.

Plus, how would he prove to Barry that he's right? Barry looks up to Wells, and because he's from a different timeline, he might not be able to prove he's future Barry. I guess he could talk about their childhood, but he might not remember anything significant enough to show who he would be.



Well that puts him in contrast with Wells, who is an appealing likable character who turned out to be evil. They might call him the reverse.

Of course it's possible that alternate universe Barry is a jerk, and that Zolomon was right and suffering builds character.



For "Rogue time"? I rewatched it and didn't see that scene, but I didn't see it.

How do you divide a "quote" when you replay? It would be so damn handy when it comes to long posts.

I will just answer according to the succession of your replays:

Well, it is possible. The writers could try to throw us for a loop, after all. I still think we would at least have seen something of Bridge earlier if they really wanted to make him into a future Barry. But never say never, after all.

Regarding Iris' and Barry's marriage, they are originally married in the comics and it has nothing to do with Barry growing up as Joe's foster kid. Originally, Barry met Iris well into his twenties, they didn't know each other during their teenage years.
That of course doesn't mean that they have to be married in the future from which the Flash of the show has returned from but I strongly believe so. It is simply something essential to the character of the Flash to have Iris as his spouse, well at least the mess with the New52 started. She is his lightening rod and very important for him to not loose his connection to the actual world.
I don't know whether it will be similar to this in the show but to be honest, I don't really see that much chemistry between those two, anyway, so I am not really bothered if they would not end up together.

I think a future Barry Allen would definitely be able to look through Wells charade. He has been fighting him after all and he most likely seen him without his mask on before, so I don't buy that he would not recognize him. Should he have not seen his face so far, you have a point, but I think Barry would know that Wells/Eobards are one and the same person. You know, Wells kind of put himself right out there for that with to what a public person he made himself to.
I also think that Barry, the future one, would have kept a closer eye on his past self and would definitely have tried to get in touch with him way earlier, not necessarily tell him that he is his future self, because I think that probably wouldn't have gone over so well. In any case, I think it would have been the more sensible thing for him to do and thus make sure that Wells would not be able to get such an influence over him in the first place. Barry may be potrayed a little bit stupid at times at the show but he is really not and I am certain that he will grow into who the Flash actually is in the comics and thus be able to predict the possiblity of Well/Eobards trying to use his younger self for his own means.

Yeah, I can see that they would try to potray Bridge kinda in the opposite way to Wells with being the not so charismatic one. I like that idea, to be honest. It still don't think that to be the case, though. He just doesn't seem like a guy who would do things for altruistic reasons and not to get something out of it. Just remember his meeting with Barry in the last episode and how he wouldn't show him the proof he has regarding Wells, even though this would have helped team Flash and possibly prevented Cisco's death.
Oh, I really don't hope that they would go with that awful storyline they have in the Flash comics right now where Barry has come back from the future and is a total tool. XD

No, I mean this trailer, where they took footage from, I think, episodes 15, 16 and 17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjux1I96jdc

 

[just one thing]

I haven't picked up on the RF attack on my own either but I saw it in this trailer review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjux1I96jdc

It is pretty interesting to watch and that guy spots much more than I ever would have.

had a look at that, some good spots prior to this weeks episode, fair play to him. could the skull in the ground joe, cisco, and capt. lance are looking at be future barry? Wells and barry go back in time, wells accidentally kills nora. Both barry and wells get depowered, wells still wants to kill barry, so hits him over the head with a shovel or some other killing implement.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, to any theory that "x" character is actually the future counterpart for one of our core characters, it wouldn't make sense for them to remain hidden in the shadows if the reason why they're in the present is to avert a disaster.

The most logical thing would be to get into contact with their younger selves in order to avert whatever disaster is bound to happen within the near future, hence why I could never buy the theory that Wells was a older version of Barry.

 

[Spooderman]

How do you divide a "quote" when you replay? It would be so damn handy when it comes to long posts.

just post (bracket)quote(bracket) at the top and (bracket)/quote(bracket) at the bottom.

I don't know whether it will be similar to this in the show but to be honest, I don't really see that much chemistry between those two, anyway, so I am not really bothered if they would not end up together.

I feel the same way. Actually, I prefer that they don't be together. Iris's sudden attraction to Barry after episode 9 seems very forced.

I think a future Barry Allen would definitely be able to look through Wells charade. He has been fighting him after all and he most likely seen him without his mask on before, so I don't buy that he would not recognize him. Should he have not seen his face so far, you have a point, but I think Barry would know that Wells/Eobards are one and the same person. You know, Wells kind of put himself right out there for that with to what a public person he made himself to.

Well there are some people who theorized that Eobard had plastic surgery to make himself look like the "original" Wells.

I also think that Barry, the future one, would have kept a closer eye on his past self and would definitely have tried to get in touch with him way earlier, not necessarily tell him that he is his future self, because I think that probably wouldn't have gone over so well. In any case, I think it would have been the more sensible thing for him to do and thus make sure that Wells would not be able to get such an influence over him in the first place. Barry may be portrayed a little bit stupid at times at the show but he is really not and I am certain that he will grow into who the Flash actually is in the comics and thus be able to predict the possiblity of Well/Eobards trying to use his younger self for his own means.

Well we do know that he has been spying on Wells, and has been spying on Barry as a result, so he might have been doing that anyways.

Wells needs Barry Alive for now in order to get back in time, so future!Barry would know that Barry is safe around Wells for the time being. Wells is also providing technology and training for Barry, so he's still valuable for Barry to become a better hero.

Yeah, I can see that they would try to potray Bridge kinda in the opposite way to Wells with being the not so charismatic one. I like that idea, to be honest. It still don't think that to be the case, though. He just doesn't seem like a guy who would do things for altruistic reasons and not to get something out of it. Just remember his meeting with Barry in the last episode and how he wouldn't show him the proof he has regarding Wells, even though this would have helped team Flash and possibly prevented Cisco's death.

Perhaps. It's also possible that he doesn't want the team to know just yet, because if they find out who Wells really is, and Wells finds out they know, than the gloves are off. If he keeps it a secret for the time being, while putting the paranoia in Barry's head, then Barry wouldn't be shocked when he finds out the truth during the right time (which is apparently is on Sunday).

Plus the trailer for the new episode implies that time travel has it's drawbacks, and interfering too much might cause some anomalies or something.

had a look at that, some good spots prior to this weeks episode, fair play to him. could the skull in the ground joe, cisco, and capt. lance are looking at be future barry?

That's possible, although other candidates would be Simon Stagg, and maybe the original Wells, assuming Eobard took his place instead of creating a new identity.