The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 6

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universeman said:
They said they cant use him as the main villain because that would go over budget.
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I feel like they could use a telepathically controlled proxy for the majority of episodes and save Grodd for a couple of episodes.
 
Primal Slayer said:
It seems like they are trying to hard to make her into the new Felicity.
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Don't get that feeling - she seems more likable and less annoying to me and Barry and her actually have a really nice chemistry for once.
 
gugumugats said:
I feel like they could use a telepathically controlled proxy for the majority of episodes and save Grodd for a couple of episodes.
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I think they go the safe route here, because a evil speedster did so well last time, they decided to use another one as this seasons mail baddy. I hope they change that formular up a little bit next season and maybe use Grodd then, would be really cool.
 
zenith16 said:
they don't have to house them in star lab's. they don't at all . For two episode's straight Cisco and Joe said iron height's prison has been ready with cell's that can hold meta's in a similar way. that's the problem. if the writer's aren't ready to show it (the super max prison it's self) it's well and good.

but show the cops taking them way to the super max prison in paddy wagons with special hand cuff's or containers in sand demon case. til they are ready to show the prison with in the show.

it's easier insteady of doing this . some how it's not truly coming off as clean as they hope or like to think and is a bit out of character for some some character like that pushing what joe like to push with how the law works and what barry like to do with saying we're scientist, cop's and investigative reporters . we look for evidence etc.
if you don't really care as writers then don't have those two main character say that stuff then.it's a bit self defeating when they say which mean's they(those characters) know better with in the show .

the writeror producer also push self defense with that statement but some fell apart there too just a bit . self defense is when you your self are in as much danger from person attacking you . officer spyvite was already clear of the concussion bomb the one that was in trouble was Jay at that moment still he(sand demon) got distracted by Barry running in a circle around him before launching the lighting. and he let go of jay to dare Barry with his come taunt.

the issue is what jay taught Barry was to make lighting and it was to take him out cause the writers want people just focusing on the fact that he the flash can create lighting and toss it. and it's cool. end story. they forgot about the rest and didn't care past that . they forgot what was over push which they made Joe tell barry that he's not the arrow and will never be like him . and he shouldn't try to the due process stuff with them jailing meta's which what the cops should do not the strar Labs crew .


Now the best that should have been said is that barry had no other options cause he was saving two lives at that moment and couldn't think of anything else at that very moment other then what jay showed with creating lighting.

Even though they showed him training specifically for that super move.
other wise technically what jay showed him was premeditated since it was planned for a bit and they train for it. and they still had option's to create trap \device via Cisco.
with a vacuum type device or since sand demon had a bomb of concussive force for the flash's well make a special grande for sand demon which will trap him in liquefied quick drying cement or concrete .


Anyway i stated before though since sand demon was a psycho it not as much as an issue but they still had time to plan alot.

With atom smasher as I stated before all they have with the heroes are B ,C D tier characters heroes since they can't use the A's likiev super batman wonder woman and for a while the green for most people was in B,C, D area til the animated JLU pushed him out. and they stated he was seen as that as well . that can be used with the league which we know all three CW shows will head to eventually .

Well we'll have to see how far they take this alternate reality story line and we'll see yet another version of atom smasher this isn't used as villain . I just hope other like dr. light and more aren't killed since they are over big talking iron height's super max prison twice since the premier.

they over push certain stuff like what They believe "how the law should work" and then they say make it seem like it's ill relevant with in the show. it's a bit weird.


hmm and I'm a bit worried bout how they'll bring wally in NOW they're idea of clean just isn't as they like to think. still enjoy the show though.
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I think in both cases it was pretty obvious that Barry had trouble dealing with them and that killing them was kind of his last resort - really don't have a problem with him doing so, he is young and quite inexperienced and I think anybody in his shoes with his level of experience would likely end up doing this. He is also not portrayed as the smartest in using his powers or being a hero in this show as he really depends strongly on his team to find solutions for him (and his powers are really fluctuating from episode to episode as well), so while I would have problems swallowing this with the Barry from the comics, they TV show kind of made it understandable.
 
Nathan said:
They could easily think of non-lethal ways, instead of overdosing someone on radiation and turning another into glass. He could have used his super sonic punch on Atom Smasher, but he didn't bother to even try. And we've seen plenty of times how Sandman got taken care of in the comics, or even the Movie. But nope, first suggestion is to glass Sand Demon.

I think I'd have nothing against the occasional death, if they'd at least show that the characters are trying to think of another way. But two Episodes in a row they immediately go with the lethal option.
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Yeah, Barry's powers and the consistency of them are pretty laughable in the show, I just take that his super sonic punch was unavailable in that episode. As was his power to dondge punches. ;)

For Sand Demon, I think it was alright how he dealt with him, he had to take care of him quickly to not let Patty be killed, so I don't really have a problem with that.
 
zenith16 said:
Except it'll be the counter part of the real Dr.Wells that lived not the reverse flash posing as well of which reverse flash killed to have life in barrys time. . also even though barry may not realize or take notice of it . it's not like reverse flash used the real Dr. wells face when he murder his mother. That thing with taking dr. wells face happened after. Hopefully he lets that part go it's unfair to the real one or well's (plural) in this case.
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The Dr. Well from this season is supposed to be a jackass, so I would have no problem at all with Barry disliking him. Also, if some guy killed your mom and you get used to identify some face to this person you will probably unconsciously hold a grudge against someone with the same face, which is just normal, so I wouldn't hold it against Barry.
 
He could have moved Patty miles away, before engaging Sand Demon. He didn't even need Jay as a distraction. This is the same guy who evacuated an entire Train Station, before engaging Captain Boomerang. And instead of using Lightning, he could have doused him with water. That's like the go to move against Metas made of Sand.
 
Nathan said:
He could have moved Patty miles away, before engaging Sand Demon. He didn't even need Jay as a distraction. This is the same guy who evacuated an entire Train Station, before engaging Captain Boomerang. And instead of using Lightning, he could have doused him with water. That's like the go to move against Metas made of Sand.
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pretty sure dousing him in water wouldn't have done jack **** since it was mentioned that he needs to stay hydrated or he'll fall apart. :shrug:
 
Astro13Zombie said:
pretty sure dousing him in water wouldn't have done jack **** since it was mentioned that he needs to stay hydrated or he'll fall apart. :shrug:
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this is why a vacumm device or a sticky type granade like cement or concrete or sticky type foam would have worked which cisco is very capable of making and had all the time to do while barry was traing for thew lighting move and she was already clear of the bomb and good distance he had jay how ever and was easily distracted by barry and dropped jay to taunt Barry with his come on . and he was entrapped by barry in circle


it's still odd. but what done is done. I'm past it I 'm re watching the snark family episode and will comment tomorrow but both me and my baby sister the youngest one who came over to visit laughed when barry asked snark why he killed his dad who almost killed his sister with a remote bomb or something similar . we both said your one to talk? the way you've been barry , the past two episode's . see what this caused?

Like he had the right to ask that to snart.

he should asked that maybe the lighting was too lethal . oh well thy were both standing before they got wasted.
 
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Like giving Atom Smasher more Radiation wouldn't have done anything? He needs to stay hydrated in order not to fall apart like dry Sand. Add more Water and he'd probably turn into Mud and wouldn't be able to use his abilities properly.
 
Things do have limits well most things.
 
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Nathan said:
They could easily think of non-lethal ways, instead of overdosing someone on radiation and turning another into glass. He could have used his super sonic punch on Atom Smasher, but he didn't bother to even try. And we've seen plenty of times how Sandman got taken care of in the comics, or even the Movie. But nope, first suggestion is to glass Sand Demon.

I think I'd have nothing against the occasional death, if they'd at least show that the characters are trying to think of another way. But two Episodes in a row they immediately go with the lethal option.
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Shame about Atom Smasher I don't see the show addressing it but I hope I'm wrong.

Well in the last one it was Leonard so that's another free pass I guess?
 
Nathan said:
He could have moved Patty miles away, before engaging Sand Demon. He didn't even need Jay as a distraction. This is the same guy who evacuated an entire Train Station, before engaging Captain Boomerang. And instead of using Lightning, he could have doused him with water. That's like the go to move against Metas made of Sand.
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He's not technically made of sand.
 
When Eddie killed himself, he sent Eobard to Earth 2. Now he comes back. I honestly dont see another possibility after the end of last episode. What do you think?

Its just too weard that even on Earth Two Eobard is Wells and so on. Even Jay and Prof. stein said that people on Earth 1 and 2 are different.
 
Eni said:
The Dr. Well from this season is supposed to be a jackass
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Source?

Xaviesta said:
When Eddie killed himself, he sent Eobard to Earth 2. Now he comes back. I honestly dont see another possibility after the end of last episode. What do you think?

Its just too weard that even on Earth Two Eobard is Wells and so on. Even Jay and Prof. stein said that people on Earth 1 and 2 are different.
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We don't know that Earth two Wells is Eobard.
 
KillerMcQueen said:
And what is his source? Youtubers not involved in production are not sources.
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Sorry, then you're out of luck with me, if you're really that interested then google it. You don't wanna believe it, that's fine worn me, I really couldn't care less. That's just something I've read and heard, I wont start a debate about it. We will learn more about it next week anyway.
 
Barry is 2:2 at getting girls numbers without asking. Smoothest. Nerd. Ever.
 
Just order season one bluray yesterday from amazon cant want to watch it. I was trying to want for it to get down to around 20-25 for either bluray or dvd or close to black Friday to see what it would get down to. But I order it threw a saler that add it for like 27.50+3.99 shipping and that is not to bad because the closet like target and best buy is like 18 miles from my house and the kmart where I live dosnt really care much any more and if I bough it in story I would have to pay tax and the saler I bought it threw doesn't charge tax. So not having to pay tax and gas really makes it like I am not paying shipping in a way and if it was from amazon its self and not a different saler threw amazon I would have had to pay tax.

So far I am a little worried about season 2 because I think so far season 1 was better but we are early in season 2 though but I just fell like zoom may end up to much like reverse flash and not having the guy on the show much who played him last year levels kind a emptiness to the show.
 
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