The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 6

[ravn0s]

wow, that's awesome fanart.

 

[Herolee10]

A part of me is really starting to think that "Zoom" may end up being Barry from Earth-2.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the things that the producers mentioned about regarding Barry's arc for the course of this season was him trying to figure out on what kind of hero he wanted to be.

I could see them mirroring Earth-2's Barry's journey and how he decided to ultimately become the "villain" as opposed to being a hero in his world.

Plus, I think the biggest clue to Zoom being an alternate version of Barry is how this version of Zoom seems to disperse blue colored lightning. One of the promotional trailers for Season 2 shows Barry starting to display that ability as well.

And if I'm not mistaken on this as well, I believe there was a "version" of Barry Allen from the comics that did go rogue and ended up becoming a "Blue-Flash".

And you gotta admit, "Zoom" from Season 2 looks more like Blue Flash/Barry Allen than the actual Zoom from the comics.

 

[WeatherWizard99]

if this theory about zoom being earth-2 barry(witch I support)...

the "Jay Garrick vs Zoom" is a reflection of "Flash vs Barry"... a reflection of the stuggle with a double identity heroes usually have

 

[ThePreface]

I like the Earth-2 Barry is Zoom theory. Maybe Earth-2 Iris died and this was the straw that broke the camel's back for Barry. So Zoom throws all his ethics out the window and decides to play time dictator in an effort to bring her back. But he keeps screwing things up and justifying it as a need to save Iris to the detriment of the multiverse.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Some better pics of Jay Garrick.

http://flashtvnews.com/the-flash-2-2-photos-flash-of-two-worlds-with-jay-garrick/21443

 

[king666]

Awesome costume.

 

[mr. peasant]

Bear in mind that if you look at those figures, Flash is the outlier rathaer than the norm. In fact, Arrow clocked in as the second highest, and went up relative to 2014, in an overall setting where most advertising budgets dropped.

 

[cheungcheung]

Jay Garrick costume is great.

 

[Lencho01]

 

[HighFivingMF]

Dope. Dope dope dope dope dope.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Seeing that preview comic really makes me realize just how close we are to season 2 starting, cannot wait for this season to get going.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Seeing that preview comic really makes me realize just how close we are to season 2 starting, cannot wait for this season to get going.

3 days!

 

[Primal Slayer]

Some better pics of Jay Garrick.

Top looks great. Pants seem like they are a bit to loose, along with the boots.

 

[The Shape]

3 days!

 

[WeatherWizard99]

BTW, since anyone else mentions it...

the guy in the image with Jay Garrick is Sand Demon

 

[TheSpliffst4rr]

A part of me is really starting to think that "Zoom" may end up being Barry from Earth-2.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the things that the producers mentioned about regarding Barry's arc for the course of this season was him trying to figure out on what kind of hero he wanted to be.

I could see them mirroring Earth-2's Barry's journey and how he decided to ultimately become the "villain" as opposed to being a hero in his world.

Plus, I think the biggest clue to Zoom being an alternate version of Barry is how this version of Zoom seems to disperse blue colored lightning. One of the promotional trailers for Season 2 shows Barry starting to display that ability as well.

And if I'm not mistaken on this as well, I believe there was a "version" of Barry Allen from the comics that did go rogue and ended up becoming a "Blue-Flash".

And you gotta admit, "Zoom" from Season 2 looks more like Blue Flash/Barry Allen than the actual Zoom from the comics.

I don't think that's Zoom at all. I have a totally different theory as to who that is. First and foremost, the suit he's wearing, it's not blue. It's actually yellow. Lighten the image up and you'll see what I mean. It's got every same detail that the Reverse-Flash suit has. It has the shoulder pads that are almost like riveted onto the suit, it's got the same lines on the abdomen area, same symbol, same ear pieces, same color scheme throughout. You know what that means right? It's probably Eobard Thawne.

I bet that since he does exist as a paradox in time himself, and theoretically exists BACKWARDS in time, Eddie's sacrifice was moot. He didn't remove Eobard Thawne from existence, he simply made him disappear into a place there time is not relative to anything. The Speed Force. Everything to do with the Speed Force is basically blue. The Speed Force was shown as being blue while Barry was traveling through it to open the wormhole in the season finale. Barry is confirmed as getting new powers, blue lightning being one of them. What if the lightning for speedsters connected to the SF stay the same normally, but when accessing the KINETIC ENERGY of the Speed Force, it turns blue?

Back to my Thawne theory, however. What if this scene is him escaping the Speed Force? And the blue lightning and blue eyes around him is the result of harnessing kinetic energy which is what allowed him to escape in the first place? He was able to escape to the one place in our timeline where there was no time, inside the singularity. His weak connection to the Speed Force (being why he did mostly everything he did in Season 1) has been fixed, and as such he was able to move fast enough to then escape the singularity?

Honestly, I just don't picture the people at The Flash revealing Zoom before he appears in an episode. They seem to be far more secretive regarding Zoom than they ever were with Eobard in the first season. Also, the colour blue really does not scream 'demon' or 'scary.' PLUS, his suit is said to be organic and looks as if it's alive on it's own. That is not what you see in the promo. It looks far more standard of the Reverse-Flash suit. Hence why I believe The Flash producers want us to believe this is Zoom, when it is in fact not Zoom, so we get even more blown away when we finally DO get to see Zoom.

 

[Xaviesta]

I see now that Tony Todd will be the voice of Zoom and he is black (no offense, just that in comics Zoom is white) so does it mean we will never see Zoom's real face in the show?

 

[godisawesome]

That is Reverse Flash's suit; so either Zoom does have a direct connection to RF, or the suit is going to collide with the new villain in some interesting way. Just having Zoom be RF returned would be a little bit of a letdown if they try to drag it out as a mystery; if Thawne has somehow survived, it'd be best to just have that immediately acknowledged early in the season.

Now, I've got a theory: Zoom, the "speed demon," is a take on the final evolution of Garrick's personal foe, The Rival, who wound up becoming a literal "speed demon" via transforming into an energy being who possesses other people. That may be the best way to immediately differentiate him from Thawne's Reverse-Flash. Perhaps Zoom possesses Eddie's body or something, and that ring we spotted on Eddie's neck was a back up suit Thawne made or something.

Considering Thawne's apparent knowledge of Garrick, maybe even personal experience in conflict, perhaps the evil Flashes have an alliance of some kind?

 

[ernesth100]

Maybe. Maybe not. Only time will tell. So wait, there's Kid Flash, Zoom, Jay Garrick, and Barry in this season. I am excited to see all these Speedsters.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I see now that Tony Todd will be the voice of Zoom and he is black (no offense, just that in comics Zoom is white) so does it mean we will never see Zoom's real face in the show?

He's just doing the voice. Kind of like how Reverse-Flash spoke with the vibrating voice and a stunt actor before everyone knew who he was, the only difference being they want Zoom to come off like a monster, so they got the Candyman. They don't have the actual actor yet. Or at least, they say they don't have the actual actor yet.

 

[Loki882]

One thing is certain, they're keeping his identity a secret for a reason. So either he's a character that comic book fans would easily recognize if his true identity were revealed, or he's a character that we've already seen on the show.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He's just doing the voice. Kind of like how Reverse-Flash spoke with the vibrating voice and a stunt actor before everyone knew who he wash each, the only difference being they want Zoom to come off like a monster, so they got the Candyman. They don't have the actual actor yet. Or at least, they say they don't have the actual actor yet.

Yeah it sounds similar to the Deathstroke situation in the first season of Arrow.

 

[ernesth100]

One thing is certain, they're keeping his identity a secret for a reason. So either he's a character that comic book fans would easily recognize if his true identity were revealed, or he's a character that we've already seen on the show.

I like that, it's fun when show creators keep a secret from the fans and we have to get all detective comics and figure it out.

 

[coluanprime]

Maybe. Maybe not. Only time will tell. So wait, there's Kid Flash, Zoom, Jay Garrick, and Barry in this season. I am excited to see all these Speedsters.

and Jesse Quick!

 

[ernesth100]

Jesse Quick too? Possible Speedster team up? I'd love that.