The Flash The Flash-Season 1-Episode 20-"The Trap"

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We don't know yet. It's a pretty significant development.

It could all be part of the same causal time loop. Thawne brings Gideon from 2200 (or whenever Thawne is from) to the "present". Barry discovers Gideon and then reverse engineers Gideon for general application (or maybe just for use by the Justice League/Society) with the help of Cisco and Caitlin. So, if Thawne had never brought Gideon back with him, then Barry never would have discovered Gideon and reverse engineered Gideon.

It does seem to be a pretty big leap of logic for Barry to have developed Gideon in the original timeline with absolutely no inspiration or direction. No-one on the show has ever mentioned artificial intelligence and although Barry has an interest in science, I don't think he's ever shown a particular interest in AI before.

Then again, Gideon could be based on some villain or alien technology that Barry encounters in the future, something built by ATOM which Barry then further develops, something built by Mercury Labs, the military or another third party which Barry considers to be too dangerous for general use and "steals" and then further develops. I don't think we have enough information to draw any further conclusions about Gideon's statement that Barry was her "creator" at this time.

Just thinking. In the original timeline Barry's mum is not killed. This means he has no motivation to become a cop. He most likely would have become some sort of scientist similar to his hero Wells. Hell he might have worked at Star Labs. And could have built Gideon.

As for why the forcefield didn't stop Everyman. It's for the same reason it didn't stop the bullet. It was designed to stop a speedster. Everyman isn't a speedster.
 
This was a really great episode. Tom Cavanagh man...

And I don't mind the Iris finding out through the spark.
 
Amazing episode, Tom Cavanagh is just awesome, one of the best CB villains to come to the screen, can't wait to see how the rest plays out.
 
I have a question for all who watch Flash and Arrow here. I'm asking it in this thread because I can't ask it in the main threads or the relevant episode threads or I might see spoilers.

This week's episode of the Flash is the finale right? And Flash teams with Arrow and Firestorm according to previews? But Arrow is still Al Sah-Him over in Arrow, at least according to last week's episode isn't he?

So my question is which order should I watch Arrow and Flash this week? Does Arrow's finale happen chronologically before Flash's finale this week? I don't want to watch Flash first if there are spoilers for Arrow. Which is the correct viewing order?

Please let me know without giving spoilers. Thanks.
 
Flash then Arrow. it will make sense if you see them in that order.
 
I believe the order is

Arrow 321
Flash 122
Arrow 322
Arrow 323
Flash 123

There's no huge chronological spoilers for the other on either side though.
 
It doesn't make sense after watching Flash episode 22. Oliver was about to get married to Nyssa and he was still Al Sah Him, and now he shows up in Flash back as Oliver to take on Wells. I feel like I've missed an Arrow episode. Shouldn't "my name is Oliver Queen" (which I haven't watched yet) come before Rogue Air?
 
No, because I think Barry does the favor Ollie asks him for during Rouge air in Arrow 23. I really don't want to spoil it any more than that.
 
I have a question for all who watch Flash and Arrow here. I'm asking it in this thread because I can't ask it in the main threads or the relevant episode threads or I might see spoilers.

This week's episode of the Flash is the finale right? And Flash teams with Arrow and Firestorm according to previews? But Arrow is still Al Sah-Him over in Arrow, at least according to last week's episode isn't he?

So my question is which order should I watch Arrow and Flash this week? Does Arrow's finale happen chronologically before Flash's finale this week? I don't want to watch Flash first if there are spoilers for Arrow. Which is the correct viewing order?

Please let me know without giving spoilers. Thanks.

Flash 01x22 isn't the finale. The season finale is airing next tuesday (05/19). Apparently, there's no team-up with Arrow or Firestorm in the Flash finale.

In order:

(05/06)
Arrow 03x22

(05/12)
The Flash 03x22

(05/13)
Arrow 03x23

(05/19)
The Flash 03x23

EDIT:
It really doesn't matter if The Flash 01x22 comes before Arrow 03x22, though.
 
edit: nevermind
 
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