The Gaming Lounge: Beyond - Part 5

[Spider-Aziz]

I didn't play Gears of War, so I wouldn't really know what to say about it
I'm going on the very loose by name meaning, I think the name of the genre should actually make it clear and easy to define a game. Lego games stand out as Role-Playing Games more than something like "ES IV: Oblivion" does

 

[Spider-Aziz]

There's no character level-up, taking on a specific character class, or party system. An RPG usually has at least 2 of these.

I'd say the first thing is the only thing non-existent in LEGO games

 

[Iceman]

Lego games shoud be in their own sub-genre, namely the "lego games" sub-genre. t:

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I didn't play Gears of War, so I wouldn't really know what to say about it
I'm going on the very loose by name meaning, I think the name of the genre should actually make it clear and easy to define a game. Lego games stand out as Role-Playing Games more than something like "ES IV: Oblivion" does

You can't be serious with this post.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You can't be serious with this post.

Why not? You take Roles in LEGO games
If I choose to call Elder Scrolls an RPG, I'll define Legend of Zelda as one, although most say it isn't

 

[zenith16]

yeah your right Legend of Zelda is seen as a platfomer/ Action adventure. there are elements that you can mistake for an RPG like the weapons and how you pick them up cause it's a dungeon crawler. But that wasn't what they were doing design wise . and the element of chose is missing from there like who you want on your team if it's there and how you wants things to play out in an event in the game . unlike in a RPG some only to a certain degree, yes. But that's one of the main differences.

 

[Nathan]

Why not? You take Roles in LEGO games

Then that would make every game an rpg.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Then that would make every game an rpg.

I'm sticking to Action/Adventure/Fantasy since games known as RPGs belong to them

[PROTOTYPE], inFAMOUS, Resident Evil, Batman Arkham, Castlevania (except Portrait of Ruin on the NDS, that one works as RPG), Spider-Man, Mario games, Sonic games on the Genesis (I'm not talking about controlling Tails with P2 gamepad, it's not role), Tomb Raider, Devil May, Cry, God of War, Uncharted, Legend of Zelda, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Fantasy Quest, no ROLE-play), Assassin's Creed, The Punisher (THQ), GTA, Metal Gear, etc......

The name Role-Play doesn't fit them

 

[Nathan]

You're taking part in an adventure, in the role of a selected hero. If those games don't fit the RPG requirement for you, neither should the LEGO games. Also, going by your logic, games like Operation Raccoon City, would be the epitome of an RPG experience. You get to choose from 6 different characters, who have different roles, level up, unlock new abilities and always travel in a party of 4.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm sticking to Action/Adventure/Fantasy since games known as RPGs belong to them

[PROTOTYPE], inFAMOUS, Resident Evil, Batman Arkham, Castlevania (except Portrait of Ruin on the NDS, that one works as RPG), Spider-Man, Mario games, Sonic games on the Genesis (I'm not talking about controlling Tails with P2 gamepad, it's not role), Tomb Raider, Devil May, Cry, God of War, Uncharted, Legend of Zelda, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Fantasy Quest, no ROLE-play), Assassin's Creed, The Punisher (THQ), GTA, Metal Gear, etc......

The name Role-Play doesn't fit them

You just dont have a good understanding of what a Role Playing game is, thats why you are so far off the mark with you assessment.

 

[Havok83]

Lego games are considered an RPG but Elder Scrolls is not?

WTF?!?!?!?

 

[Nathan]

I guess Aziz is just bored and he trolls us to pass some time.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You're taking part in an adventure, in the role of a selected hero. If those games don't fit the RPG requirement for you, neither should the LEGO games. Also, going by your logic, games like Operation Raccoon City, would be the epitome of an RPG experience. You get to choose from 6 different characters, who have different roles, level up, unlock new abilities and always travel in a party of 4.

You don't switch between them during gameplay for specified tasks

You just dont have a good understanding of what a Role Playing game is, thats why you are so far off the mark with you assessment.

Lego games have most of the things defining RPGs, so I'm sticking to what I say

Anyway, throughout the ages, GRAND majority of ROLE playing games give the party of characters you control specific tasks they can do and you see things they cannot do that's why you switch to certain characters during gameplay to do those specific tasks
Not off the mark

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Lego games are considered an RPG but Elder Scrolls.

WTF?!?!?!?

Yes

I guess Aziz is just bored and he trolls us to pass some time.

Nope, stating a point of view

 

[zenith16]

oh I see what it is, cause most of those other games of late that are of other Genre's added elements from "RPG's in a lite way" it seems to have confused you a bit.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Aziz, I'll just make it short. You have no idea what an RPG is. Stop trying to pretend you do.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm not pretending
RPG's are, RPG's, the genre title is Role-Play, not immersive world, experience points, guilds, etc...
LEGO games do the thing RPGs that are not titled Edler Scrolls do, give you a team of characters, each take turn to do something, do their role
Roooole Playing

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

These posts are so stupid it's not even worth a rebuttal. You're wrong, that's all I need to say.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I'd say the first thing is the only thing non-existent in LEGO games

The other two aren't existent either. The characters don't have classes. I've only played the Lego Star Wars games. There are different types of characters (Droids, Jedis, Sith) but it's very limited. Some characters don't even have a special function.

There isn't a party system. Story mode has a pre-arranged set of characters. Replays you choose two and then are automatically assigned others.

There is no cohesive story to the Lego games either. Everything is fragmented into individual levels.

An RPG has to have several of these: character classes, party, non-fragmented story, inventory management, collectible items, side-quests, interactive NPCs. But the deal breaker is a level-up system. If a game doesn't have that, it's not an RPG. I can't think of a single game considered an RPG that doesn't have a level-up system.

You don't understand what "role-playing" means. You're taking it in a very broad, literal sense. Yeah, every game you're playing a role. I'm playing the role of Nathan Drake in Uncharted but you'd have to be crazy to consider that an RPG. Role-playing video games were based off of role-playing table top games like Dungeons and Dragons. That's where the term comes from.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

These posts are so stupid it's not even worth a rebuttal. You're wrong, that's all I need to say.

Your alter-ego did the job for you
Fine, I'll simmer down

 

[Iceman]

Your alter-ego

t:

 

[Iceman]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=456569
Lords of the Fallen (by ex Witcher 2 exec producer)

New RPG!?

 

[Nathan]

Man, this will be fun. I think I'm looking forward to Glados' demoralizing comments the most.

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[Soapy]

 

[Iceman]

Ah official! Nice, can't wait.