The Israel-Palestine Politics Thread II

[Kelly]

I agree, at this point it is ridiculous. I understand our committment to Israel, but there comes a time where you must use that reliance to further peace, and funding Israel to continue down the path they are on is not going to even get close to peace. AND Israel hasn't just broken US Law, it has broken International laws as well. At the VERY LEAST they could open a secure corridor for help to get into the people of Gaza.

 

[blueharvest]

Young people disapprove of Biden’s Israel policy. It may not mean much for November.

Despite campus protests over Israel's war with Hamas, polls find that young people rank other issues, like the economy, as much more important to their vote in November.

abcnews.go.com

 

[blueharvest]

Stormy seas pause construction of Gaza pier, Pentagon says

The U.S. military had to pause its project of building a pier off the coast of Gaza to deliver humanitarian due to bad weather, the Pentagon said Friday. U.S. Central Command officials “temporarily…

thehill.com

 

[DA_Champion]

I wonder if this situation will break the international criminal court. Recall the the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin one or two years ago.

If it issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu, then the US and EU will shut it down. Israel has said it will punish the Palestinian Authority as retribution if there's an arrest warrant on Netanyahu.

If it doesn't, the global majority will dismiss it as a hypocritical joke.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

 

[squeekness]

Support for Gazans doesn't always equal support for Hamas. Don't know why that's so hard for some folks to understand.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

Bush, Omar compare Gaza war protest police responses to Kent State Massacre on 54th anniversary

Progressive Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Cori Bush (D-Minn.) compared police responses to ongoing pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses across the country to the Kent State Massacre on its…

thehill.com

 

[squeekness]

Nice. Some progress at least.

 

[blueharvest]

There's progress reported in Gaza truce talks, but Israel downplays chances of ending war with Hamas

A Hamas delegation has arrived in Cairo, and Egyptian state media say there has been “noticeable progress” in cease-fire talks with Israel.

apnews.com

 

[Hobgoblin]

Support for Gazans doesn't always equal support for Hamas. Don't know why that's so hard for some folks to understand.

Just like supporting Israel doesn’t mean supporting their actions in Gaza. Nuance is dead.

 

[DA_Champion]

Just like supporting Israel doesn’t mean supporting their actions in Gaza. Nuance is dead.

One could argue that supporting Israel necessitates rejecting their actions in Gaza.

 

[Hobgoblin]

True. They are only hurting themselves on the world stage and creating more terrorists.

 

[blueharvest]

Al Jazeera offices in Israel to close after unanimous vote by Netanyahu’s Cabinet

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet unanimously voted on Sunday to close the Al Jazeera broadcaster in Israel, the prime minister said on X. “The government headed by me unanimously…

thehill.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Netanyahu says Israel will keep fighting in Gaza until victory

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the country will continue the war in the Gaza Strip until all objectives have been achieved, and blamed the Palestinian militant group Hamas for stalled negotiations over a temporary ceasefire. "Capitulating to Hamas's demands would be a terrible...

www.yahoo.com

Scoop: U.S. put a hold on an ammunition shipment to Israel​

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/05/israel-us-ammunition-shipment-hold

 

[squeekness]

I like the idea of a cease-fire finally happening. .

 

[blueharvest]

Queen Rania of Jordan says U.S. is seen as "enabler" of Israel

The queen, who is of Palestinian descent, has criticized the reaction to the war by the U.S., saying it's caused a "loss of credibility."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[blueharvest]

 

[DA_Champion]

Why did New Yorkers vote for Adams?

 

[blueharvest]

Hamas says latest cease-fire talks have ended. Israel vows military operation in 'very near future'

The latest round of Gaza cease-fire talks ended in Cairo after “in-depth and serious discussions,” the Hamas militant group said, reiterating key demands that Israel again rejected.

apnews.com

 

[blueharvest]

'Politico' Misses Mark in Story on Who's Funding Pro-Palestine Protests Against Biden

After Rolling Stone reached out, Politico corrected its story to note that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation does not fund the groups it claimed.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I read these polls saying that 81% disapprove of Bidens handling of the isreal/hamas war, what exactly is he supposed to do? I am not thrilled they sent that military aid to isreal but that was as much republicans as democrats who supported that, Biden administration is walking a tight rope, trying to denounce the attacks and free hostages but Isreal really isnt listening to anyone so saying Biden is doing a poor job handling an issue he has little say over, idk, i dont see any one with rational solutions to offer up

Biden is sending weapons and supporting a far right government ethically cleansing Gaza.

You're telling me this is the moderate, centrist position?

 

[mclay18]

Your Revolution Is A Farce

I hate being right. As someone entrenched in the political world, I have come to understand that there are dark forces at play trying to und...

establishmentbar.blogspot.com

 

[mclay18]

Biden is sending weapons and supporting a far right government ethically cleansing Gaza.

You're telling me this is the moderate, centrist position?

Please stop pretending Biden is president of Israel. He wants Bibi out of office as much as everyone else does.

 

[Ironfan72]

I really dont know what people want Biden to do that goes against every other President, I saw this morning the US is delaying sending weapons and ammo to Isreal over the ceasefire collapse, the United States doesnt have much leverage over anyone over in the middle east, especially over a government dedicated to wiping out Palestine, the US is in a rock and a hard place, on one hand they have over the last 50 or more years under multiple administrations both Republican and Democrat unwaving support for an Isreali state but at the same time the massacre of innocent civilians at the hands of that very government can not be allowed to continue, but like every other soverign nation the world cant just stop them, they did have a right to defend themselves.
Whats overlooked here is Biden is doing the best he can, you think Trump would go over there and stop this? Got news for you, he would do more to help it along, the isreali government has already made comments supporting Trump, so if you think its bad now, just wait till Trump gets there.