The Dark Knight The James Gordon / Gary Oldman Thread

[ArmsHeldOut]

Remember, in Begins the Joker was introduced at the end, so he basically, for the most part, already existed.

Sure, but Gordon also says, "What about escalation? You're jumping off rooftops and wearing a mask" then goes on to mention a "new" guy who's got a "taste for theatrics like you (referring to Bats)" finally revealing the Joker card. In a sense he was basically telling Bats, that copycats are just around the corner.

 

[Symbiotic]

Trust me bud I know what I'm talking about.

I've heard the same as well.

 

[Luchastyle]

bkey, i think that would happen in a little kids version of the film

most of his stuff is accurate. we don't know all the details for sure, but something like that happens in the movie.

 

[JackBauer24]

Well it's just a searchlight with a bat on it. It's not like they can't build another one (which they probably will by the time the film is over).

It's, well... symbolic.

 

[bkey]

This is from some call sheets from the Chicago filming.

Spoiler

[/August 12, 2007

INT. PRESS ROOM – SUPERIOR COURT
At a wild press conference Dent offers himself up as Batman

INT. PRESS ROOM – SUPERIOR COURT
VIDEO: Pres conference when Dent offers himself up as Batman

EXT. DOWNTOWN HOSPITAL – GOTHAM CITY
A National Guard helicopter flies over

EXT. CIVIC CENTER – DOWNTOWN GOTHAM
Now the National Guard is patrolling Gotham

August 15, 2007

INT. FOX’S OFFICE – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Reese (played by Joshua Harto) tries to blackmail Fox with Batman’s identity

INT. FOX’S OFFICE – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Wayne begins to tell Fox of his plans for Lau (played by Chin Han)

INT. FOX’S PRIVATE ELEVATOR – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Wayne tells Fox more of his plans for Lau

INT. FOX’S OFFICE – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Fox is notified of a break in at R & D

August 16, 2007

INT. BOARDROOM – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Fox and Lau may be in earnest, but Wayne is asleep

INT. BOARDROOM – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Wayne asks Fox to upgrade the Bat Suit

INT. HALLWAY – WAYNE ENTERPRISES
Fox puts Lau in an elevator and puts Reese in his place

August 17, 2007

INT. DENT’S OFFICE
Gordon explains just enough to Dent to get the search warrants

INT. POLICE COMMISSIONER LOEB’S (played by Colin McFarlane) OFFICE
Gordon tells Loeb his life is threatened, he drinks to that

EXT. CITY HALL
Gordon enters through tight security

August 18, 2007

INT. MAYOR’S OFFICE
Gordon briefs the Mayor on his plans and precautions

INT. MAYOR’S OFFICE
Dent offers a crime-free 18 months, Batman effigy hits the window

EXT. CITY HALL
A false Batman hangs from the flagpole

EXT. CITY HALL
VIDEO: The false Batman hangs and is lowered

EXT. CITY HALL
The false Batman is lowered. Gordon notes the details

August 19, 2007

INT. EXT LOBBY/ STREET ENTRY – TV STUDIO
Gordon tries to get Reese out. The angry mob presents that

EXT. LAMBORGHINI/ ALLEY NEAR TV STUDIO
Wayne names officers he recognized

INT./ EXT TELEVISION STUDIO/ ALLEY
Gordon gets Reese out through a side door and into a Police Van

EXT. POLICE VAN/ ALLEY
Gordon drives off with Reese

The stuff about his wife getting the call from Stephens is on another call sheet that I can't find right now.

 

[bkey]

most of his stuff is accurate. we don't know all the details for sure, but something like that happens in the movie.

Thank you

 

[Luchastyle]

no problem

 

[turtlefocker]

Spoiler

Gordon Fakes his death

thats cool

 

[BatSpider]

pulls a mcmahon

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

at bkey comment

Didn't Dent fake his own death in The Long H?

 

[JackBauer24]

Spoiler

Gordon Fakes his death

thats cool

Let's just hope he doesn't blow the whole gaffe and have his picture taken with Batman in Panama.

 

[Comic Book Boy]

Why the hell does Gordon destroy the bat signal? That seems very very STUPID to me. Its like Nolan is destroying elements from the comics....the tumbler, Wayne Manor, and now the bat signal?

Maybe he destroys it because Joker wants to use it to call Batman to set up a trap?

That doesn't make any sense. The commissioner is probably making him do it for his connection to Batman, an illegal vigilante.

 

[hegele]

Why the hell does Gordon destroy the bat signal? That seems very very STUPID to me. Its like Nolan is destroying elements from the comics....the tumbler, Wayne Manor, and now the bat signal?

Maybe he destroys it because Joker wants to use it to call Batman to set up a trap?

At the end, does Gordon stand on the top of GPD with a flair gun, and when Batman arrives, says "I couldn't find any bat signals...I destroyed it...lol" or some crap?

Well if every screenwriter followed that narrow logic all the batman films would be pretty redundant.

If all we wanted to see were aspects of the comics, than why make the film to begin with?

 

[Luchastyle]

pulls a mcmahon

zing.

 

[RobC]

I can't see Gordon as a target, I figured he faked his death 'cause the dirty cops were out to get him...

 

[bkey]

I can't see Gordon as a target, I figured he faked his death 'cause the dirty cops were out to get him...

That might be why. Good theory at least. I would buy it.

 

[turtlefocker]

So... by the end of the film.. Gordon is commissioner, Harvey is Two-Face, Joker is in Arkham, Maroni is still alive and the bat-signal has been replaced??

 

[RobC]

It seems to make more sense, Loebs a legit target for Joker, but not Gordon, he's a nobody still, just a noise-maker in the department. I say Gordon does it to escape pressure from within.

 

[RobC]

So... by the end of the film.. Gordon is commissioner, Harvey is Two-Face, Joker is in Arkham, Maroni is still alive and the bat-signal has been replaced??

As long as the signal is replaced everyones happy.

 

[bkey]

So... by the end of the film.. Gordon is commissioner, Harvey is Two-Face, Joker is in Arkham, Maroni is still alive and the bat-signal has been replaced??

All correct except Maroni is dead.

 

[turtlefocker]

All correct except Maroni is dead.

Spoiler

I thought Harvey's coin spared Maroni, but not the driver? Who kills Maroni?

 

[Luchastyle]

Spoiler

I thought Harvey's coin spared Maroni, but not the driver? Who kills Maroni?

[BLACKOUT]well roberts said two-face's coin spares him but he dies shortly after that.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[hegele]

where did it say that Joker was back in Arkham? He escaped in Begins but I didn't hear any rumbling of him getting back in at the end of TDK.

 

[turtlefocker]

[blackout]well roberts said two-face's coin spares him but he dies shortly after that.[/blackout]

Spoiler

...suicide? Gamble? Joker? possibilities, possibilities. I suppose no one knows

 

[Luchastyle]

where did it say that Joker was back in Arkham? He escaped in Begins but I didn't hear any rumbling of him getting back in at the end of TDK.

who said he escapes in begins? we don't know where he came from.