Justice League The Joss Whedon Thread

It's not a cut and dry issue, which is why there are actual directors on the board there. If your directing abilities changed the course of the movie in a significant way (this doesn't have to be story related) you are eligible for a directing credit. This is how I understand it.
 
I highly doubt that Whedon will get a co-credit. I highly doubt he would want a co-credit. In any case, the call will be made by the DGA, not WB.

He may want the credit if money hangs in the balance. I don't know the ins and outs of director's contracts, though.
 
Not surprised Whedon gets a credit.
 
WB's official press statement :
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A line from a YT account.


But people will over react. Just like they did with the Ben Affleck thing yesterday. Gotta complain about something.
 
WB's official press statement :
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A line from a YT account.


But people will over react. Just like they did with the Ben Affleck thing yesterday. Gotta complain about something.

Man, I respect you but WB are snakes. Stop being naive. Can't you see a pattern here? They throw stink bombs, let the internet do the job and then drop another one. Controlling the narrative. If they announced Whedon is co-directing before comic-con, it would've made things uncomfortable.

WB are done with Wonder Woman press tour (5/22/2017) - Zack Snyder stepping down as director (5/23/2017).

WB are done with Comic Con (7/22/2017) - Whedon gets co-directing credit (same day).

The next time you'll here from them is when the film is out.
 
Damn, I can't believe he is working on Batgirl so early. So, there must be casting already in place? Hmm.
 
WB's official press statement :
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A line from a YT account.


But people will over react. Just like they did with the Ben Affleck thing yesterday. Gotta complain about something.

Press release doesn't mention Henry nor Superman either :cwink:
 
I expected to see "A special thanks for Joss Whedon" or "Directed by Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon"

So this isn't an issue at all really, I'll be shocked if we end up with "Directed by Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder" or "Directed by Joss Whedon"
 
Variety July 24, 2017:
‘Justice League’ Extensive Reshoots Causing Headaches for Star Schedules (EXCLUSIVE)
Justin Kroll & Brent Lang said:
Warner Bros. and DC are spending big money to ensure that “Justice League” builds on the creative success of “Wonder Woman” instead of serving up a “Suicide Squad”-style disappointment.

The studio, which had no comment on the scheduling trouble, is spending approximately $25 million on extensive reshoots that have dragged on for roughly two months in London and Los Angeles, according to multiple insiders. Like “The Avengers,” “Justice League” centers on a group of superheroes who band together to save the world. The ensemble nature of the comic book movie, and the fact that its cast includes several of the most in-demand actors working in Hollywood today, is creating scheduling headaches that have prolonged the shooting.

It’s standard for big Hollywood movies to schedule a few weeks of pick-up work, but the cost and time allotted to the work on “Justice League” is raising some eyebrows. Reshoots, or additional photography, to use the preferred studio nomenclature, traditionally cost between $6 million and $10 million, and rarely have to juggle so many competing schedules. They typically last a week or two.

Though stars like Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot, who play Batman and Wonder Woman, aren’t working on any other projects at the moment, enabling them to be on call for the filming, other cast members such as Ezra Miller and Henry Cavill have been scrambling to accommodate the additional photography.

Miller is reprising his “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” role in the film’s sequel, which started filming earlier this summer. Sources indicate that since that is also a Warner Bros. property, scheduling has been easier. The studio has gone out of its way to make him available, but his growing role in the world of wizarding series has made it difficult for him to suit up as the Flash on the same days that other co-stars are available.

Cavill’s issues are even more thorny. “Justice League’s” Man of Steel had expected to be able to finish shooting the sixth “Mission: Impossible” film before needing to don Superman’s spandex again. That has not been the case, however, as the new scenes that are being shot have required him to jump back and forth from each production. Because of this, a mustache he grew for his character in the “Mission: Impossible” sequel will have to be digitally removed in post-production. Paramount, which is distributing the “Mission: Impossible” sequel, would not allow Cavill to shave the facial hair while production was taking place.

Then there is the question of crediting. Joss Whedon has now spent months overseeing the project, but he will not receive a co-directing credit, according to an insider. Whedon stepped in to handle the reshoots and finish the film this spring after director Zack Snyder publicly excused himself from the project, following his daughter’s suicide in March. Whedon won’t just be rewarded with a fat paycheck. He may also get a producing credit or a screenplay credit. There’s some precedent. Tony Gilroy, who stepped in for director Gareth Edwards to oversee reshoots for “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” earned a screenwriting credit.

A similar problem exists for the Han Solo spinoff film. Last month, Disney and Lucasfilm fired directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller and replaced them with Ron Howard. It’s unclear if Howard will receive sole credit for shooting the film or will share it with his two predecessors.

Sources say “Justice League” reshoots have been used to punch up the dialogue. Whedon, the director of “The Avengers,” is well respected for his ability to create memorably wry exchanges between his characters. The set pieces Snyder shot are said to be usable, but Whedon has been working on “connective tissue” that was needed to link sequences.

“Justice League” is spending the kind of time and money on reshoots that mid-budget films would have to shoot an entire movie. However, this is no longer an anomaly. Major studio movies have become so complicated and expensive, and are often key parts in sprawling franchises, that companies will spend lavishly, even late in the production, to ensure that audiences come out in force. “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” and “World War Z” both had extensive reshoots, and went on to be commercially and critically successful. “Suicide Squad,” another DC film, also did a lot of extra filming with mixed results. The movie was a box office hit, but critics savaged the picture. Going forward, Warner Bros. has changed its greenlighting process. It will now factor weeks and millions of dollars of additional photography into the production budgets of its major comic book films, according to insiders. Other studios have made similar accommodations on their big-budget films.

The reports of re-shoots have alarmed some fans of the DC franchise. At San Diego Comic-Con last weekend, where sneak footage of the film earned a rock concert reception, the “Justice League” cast used its Hall H panel to downplay the extent of the additional photography.

“They’re brief if anything,” said Ray Fisher, who plays Cyborg. “Zack picked a great director to help clean up for us.”

Affleck also used the panel to shoot down a report that he was leaving the franchise.

“Batman is the coolest part in any universe — DC, Marvel,” he said. “It’s incredible.”
 
Ray Fisher said:
Zack picked a great director to help clean up for us.
Well that's a fun little Freudian slip. :funny:
 
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Interesting this is the description from the WB U.K channel,

Justice League - Official Trailer. A film by Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon starring Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Henry Cavill, Jason Momoa, Ezra Miller and Ray Fisher. In cinemas November 2017, watch the new trailer here.
I figured out a few days ago that someone at WB UK made mistake. There is no way that DGA will allow Whedon to get any kind of director credit if more than 95% of the film was shot by Snyder.

Some people on SHH are delusional about the amount of materials that Whedon supposedly to have shot and handle. The only sure thing about Whedon is that he has total editorial control of the final film.

Anyway, I noted that the WB UK page listed Snyder as the sole director.
 
Well that's a fun little Freudian slip. :funny:

Thats not all Ray said though. His full quote : "They’re brief if anything. Joss is a great guy and Zack picked a great guy to finish up for him."
 
Honestly I'm surprised they're not pushing back the release date but I trust Joss
 
I figured out a few days ago that someone at WB UK made mistake. There is no way that DGA will allow Whedon to get any kind of director credit if more than 95% of the film was shot by Snyder.

Some people on SHH are delusional about the amount of materials that Whedon supposedly to have shot and handle. The only sure thing about Whedon is that he has total editorial control of the final film.

Anyway, I noted that the WB UK page listed Snyder as the sole director.

Moviefreak, someone said they award credit based on the significance of the director's contribution instead of percentage, do you know anything about that? thx
 
Well Snyder already assembled a rough cut, so add in the additional stuff which is almost finished if not already, I dont see why they have to push back the release date.
 
Moviefreak, someone said they award credit based on the significance of the director's contribution instead of percentage, do you know anything about that? thx

The Variety article(and Umberto on twitter) said that Zack will receive sole director credit.

Edit : I read somewhere that if a director had shot all the principal photography footage, he/she has a right to demand a director's cut from the studio if someone else handled the AP. So in a scenario where Zack wants to, he can do that, considering he has demanded Director's cut on many of his movies before.
 
The Variety article(and Umberto on twitter) said that Zack will receive sole director credit.

Edit : I read somewhere that if a director had shot all the principal photography footage, he/she has a right to demand a director's cut from the studio if someone else handled the AP. So in a scenario where Zack wants to, he can do that, considering he has demanded Director's cut on many of his movies before.

Riiight, Zack HAS done all the principle photography so I'd be interested in what his cut would be like.
 
Moviefreak, someone said they award credit based on the significance of the director's contribution instead of percentage, do you know anything about that? thx

I'm not sure about credit on significant of the director's contribution outside of the amount of film being shot. Also both Snyder and Whedon are member of the DGA.

From DGA's page --pdf of the relevant section

https://www.dga.org/~/media/Files/Contracts/Agreements/2008 BA/008ba2008article8.pdf

Section 8-200 CREDIT FOR DIRECTORS OF THEATRICAL MOTION
8-201 Screen Credit

The Director of the film shall be accorded credit on all positive prints and all videodiscs/videocassettes of the film in size of type not less than fifty percent (50%) of the size in which the title of the motion picture is displayed or of the largest size in which credit is accorded to any other person, whichever is greater.

No other credit shall appear on the card which accords credit to the Director of the film. Such credit shall be on the last title card appearing prior to principal photography. If more than one Director is given such credit, in accordance with the provisions of Paragraph 8-101, then such fifty percent (50%) may be reduced to thirty percent (30%) for each. The Employer shall furnish to the Guild copies of the main and end titles as soon as the same are prepared in final form but before the prints are made, for the purpose of checking compliance with the credit provisions of this BA. After such copies are furnished, there can be no changes relating to the term Director, Direction or any derivation thereof, without first giving the Guild notice of such proposed changes or elimination.


Section 8-101 GENERAL PROVISIONS

Guild to Determine Controversy Over Credits Should more than one Director do work on a motion picture, the Guild and all such Directors (other than Directors of second units) shall be notified in writing as to the directorial credit intended to be given. Should any such Director be dissatisfied with such determination, he or she may immediately appeal to the Guild and likewise notify the Employer in writing that he or she is so doing. The Guild may then determine the issue. Except as herein provided,
the Employer agrees to be bound by such determination as to credits. If the Guild should fail to reach a decision and notify the Employer within fourteen (14) days in the case of a theatrical motion picture, and seven (7) days in the case of a television motion picture (such time to run from receipt by the Guild of the print of the film), the Employer shall determine the issue and its determination shall be final. In the event that the Guild's determination as to credit is given at too late a date to permit the giving of screen or advertising credit as indicated by the Guild, then credit shall be given in such manner as may have been designated by the Employer, but appropriate credit shall be given in any bulletin to be issued by the Guild or in such other bulletin as may be mutually agreed upon. In no event shall an
Employer be obligated to delay the preparation or issuance of advertising matter or the release of any motion picture pending proceedings for the determination of credits.
 
Thanks! So 50%+ for sole credit and 30%+ for co-credit

That sounds about right and in line with what I suggested the other day. Superman II needed 51% for Richard Lester to receive sole director's credit, which meant he had to even reshoot certain scenes which didn't need really need reshooting just to be his version of it to receive that credit. And Richard Donner says only about 25% of his own work was in the final movie.

So if Whedon is co-credited, it means he's shot at least 30% but less than 50%. But if he isn't, then his "extensive reshoots" only comprised less than 30% of the movie.
 
Thanks! So 50%+ for sole credit and 30%+ for co-credit

I think that section of the DGA rules is referring to the font size of the director's credit as it appears on screen. It's not about the contribution threshold by co-directors. :word:
 
I think that section of the DGA rules is referring to the font size of the director's credit as it appears on screen. It's not about the contribution threshold by co-directors. :word:

You're right.

It's interesting, though, that these minutiae were thought of by the DGA.
 
I think that section of the DGA rules is referring to the font size of the director's credit as it appears on screen. It's not about the contribution threshold by co-directors. :word:

Lol ok. Back to square one.
 

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