The Dark Knight The Man Who Laughs: The Joker Thread 2.0

[shaf_haq]

Another pointless topic to add to the many others but something that crossed my mind was the motives both the Joker and Jigsaw had in their movies. Both very intelligent guys but trying to bring people to an understanding of our society and the way people live their lives.

I think they definetly have some similarities.

 

[Toxin72]

this is brilliant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxlSCKHCAE

Something about the jokers face in this series just bothers me. I liked his look in the original cartoon series better but as long as hamill is the voice no wrong can be done. I loved the may the floss be with you line.

 

[TH3D4RKKN1GH7]

Yeah his face was changed in season 4. I love that episode, oh man hes so ruthless. I do think Hamil's laugh is the best and I'd put Ledger's second. The scene where Brian Douglass gets tortured on video, the laugh at the end of that is just FANTASTIC! As far as portrayals Ledger is my favorite. I think his is the best because it captures the essence of the character that was created back in 40'.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Should Caesar Romero even be on that list? Everything about his Joker was just horrible. In any case, I'd say Hamil has the absolute best laugh, followed by Ledger.

Yes, Cesar Romero should definitely be on that list. Two things need to be taken into account here.. 1) a darker Joker would not have been allowed on TV in those days -- remember, these were the days of Andy Griffith and the Dick Van Dyke show. And 2) Cesar's Joker was COMPLETELY accurate to the comics of those days. If you think otherwise, then you haven't read a Batman comic from the 50's and 60's. Out of all the Jokers, I think Cesar gets the most flack and he doesn't deserve it at all. He was the Joker of the 60's come to life.

 

[Crook]

Erm, no. I don't like his particular interpretation either, but he most definitely did represent the character of that era.

 

[Crook]

Oh, okay.

 

[Crook]

I don't see the point of your comments when clearly you're speaking from ignorance. Half the stories in that show were ripped straight from the comics. Romero was corny, cheerful, and silly....but that's exactly how Joker was written in the 50s and 60s. He was nothing but faithful. So to say that he was JINO is flat-our erroneous.

 

[excreations]

cesar was a awesome joker nuff said.

 

[excreations]

I don't see the point of your comments when clearly you're speaking from ignorance. Half the stories in that show were ripped straight from the comics. Romero was corny, cheerful, and silly....but that's exactly how Joker was written in the 50s and 60s. He was nothing but faithful. So to say that he was JINO is flat-our erroneous.

i definetly agree with ya on that.

 

[The Joker]

I don't see the point of your comments when clearly you're speaking from ignorance. Half the stories in that show were ripped straight from the comics. Romero was corny, cheerful, and silly....but that's exactly how Joker was written in the 50s and 60s. He was nothing but faithful. So to say that he was JINO is flat-our erroneous.

Exactly

Romero's Joker is very faithful to the campy era of the Batman comics.

 

[excreations]

His Joker was horrible, corny, cheerful, silly, and horrible. Whether he was mimicking his personality from the comics or not, HE WAS LAME.

i would have to disagree with you on that, cesar made a great joker. it was straight out of the older comics

 

[p4poetic]

Yes, Cesar Romero should definitely be on that list. Two things need to be taken into account here.. 1) a darker Joker would not have been allowed on TV in those days -- remember, these were the days of Andy Griffith and the Dick Van Dyke show. And 2) Cesar's Joker was COMPLETELY accurate to the comics of those days. If you think otherwise, then you haven't read a Batman comic from the 50's and 60's. Out of all the Jokers, I think Cesar gets the most flack and he doesn't deserve it at all. He was the Joker of the 60's come to life.

Thank you.

 

[The Joker]

Do you know the meaning of the word "great"?

Do you know the meaning of the word "opinion"?

 

[The Joker]

Indeed I do, indeed I do.

I should ask you all the same since you began hassling me when I called Romero a JINO.

Nobody hassled you. You asked should Romero be on the list of Jokers. People explained why he should. Whether you like his performance or not, his Joker was a valid interpretation of the character.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact. And you're challenging people on why they like Romero by asking them do they know what great means, and consistently repeating to them that you think he's terrible.

We get it. You don't like him. But plenty of people do. Simple as that.

 

[The Caped Knight]

credit - Andre@s

 

[Oriin]

Riddler 303, Do you even read comics?

 

[Oriin]

Why are you asking me this? I simply said that Romero's Joker & the Joker in the comics of that time aren't interpretations I like. In any case, yes, I do, so stop asking, please.

Well, I've been reading what you've been saying it also appears you don't like Jack's either (in the costume thread). You just come off as someone on the Ledger Joker bandwagon who is not able to admit that his Joker was not an exact adaptation and is just as flawed as the other media interpretations.

 

[p4poetic]

That's complete b.s. I complimented Jack's Joker and said I like his, but Ledger's is better. I felt his was much closer to the comics than Jack's, but I still largely enjoy both performances.

That would be the exact opposite. The Joker doesn't put on make up, he fell in a chemical bath causing his skin to become white, his hair green, the fixed smile, etc.

 

[Oriin]

That would be the exact opposite. The Joker doesn't put on make up, he fell in a chemical bath causing his skin to become white, his hair green, the fixed smile, etc.

Don't forget he actually uses his venom instead of a knife.

 

[Oriin]

I didn't know that in the 1940's he fell into a chemical bath, which is where most of the inspiration for this Joker came from. Silly me.

I won't really say Ledger's Joker was the 40s Joker either, he was more of a combo of Bronze Age Joker and Modern Age but only non-canon Modern Age stories like LotDK #50.. Like I said, he was great but Ledger to me was more of an Anarchist with face-paint the only thing that made me feel that he was the Joker was at the end when he said he needed Batman and they'd be doing that forever.

 

[The Joker]

Ledger's Joker was heavily influenced by Batman #1 and 2, and The Killing Joke.

Dressing as a Cop to get close to his victim, telling different stories about how he got his scars, trying to prove that everyone else is the same as him by using extremely sadistic measures etc. I think even the brutal beating with the bar that he gave Batman was a little nod to 'A Death in the family'.

 

[Schlosser85]

That would be the exact opposite. The Joker doesn't put on make up, he fell in a chemical bath causing his skin to become white, his hair green, the fixed smile, etc.

Jack's Joker might be physically closer to the Joker of the comics, but I think Ledger's Joker is closer character-wise. Which, in my opinion, is more important.

 

[Crook]

Hamill's Joker, and hell...the traditional Joker are all weak weak fighters. In the sense that they never fight fair and will almost always use cheap hits and weapons.

Even Ledger followed this.

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

Hamill's Joker, and hell...the traditional Joker are all weak weak fighters. In the sense that they never fight fair and will almost always use cheap hits and weapons.

Even Ledger followed this.

Agreed

 

[SPIDERMAN117]

Hamill's Joker, and hell...the traditional Joker are all weak weak fighters. In the sense that they never fight fair and will almost always use cheap hits and weapons.

Even Ledger followed this.

True this is why in the interrogation scene he coundt do anything to Batman because Joker was weaponless