The now NEW Official DC Stupid Questions thread: Didio Headaches - Part 2

[HighFivingMF]

I only remember James Jr. from Black Mirror and Year One. I think Gordon's wife took him after the divorce. But Barbara was Jim's Brother's kid. They died, so Jim and Barbara (Jim's wife) adopted Babs. But then it was revealed Jim used to bang Babs' Mom or something and might be the biological father.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked all the infidelity and stuff because it showed that Jim, for all of his ethics and morality as a cop, is a deeply flawed man overall. But I was not a big fan of the daddy drama with Babs. I really hope that if the retcon changed anything, it just went ahead and made Jim Babs' biological father and Barbara her biological mother. He still cheated on Barbara with Sarah Essen so the flawed family man aspect is still there, but we can at least avoid the weird disconnect of literally everyone (including most comic readers) knowing Jim as Babs' father even though he technically wasn't.

I think a lot of us are starting to know how Kurosawa felt. I just hope most of us have it in us to get over it before we hit the 20 year mark.

I'm learning to get over it by just not reading DC's comics anymore. Once this month's Aquaman #12 ships, which'll be the last issue for me, I'll be up to two weeks per month where I'm getting literally zero DC comics. It's a weird, sad feeling, and I've tried several comics I might otherwise have passed on in the hopes of finding new areas of the DC universe I could enjoy, but a lot of what they're publishing now is frankly just crap to me.

 

[javi1024]

So who is James Jr's mom? Sarah?

 

[WompuM]

Have you checked out the Rotworld stuff Corp? Or Earth 2? That's what's getting me through DC right now.

 

[Artistsean]

I was thinking, Wonder Woman is Greek, her father is now Zeus and the Amazons have connections to ancient Greece right? Aquaman is from Atlantis, which is an ancient Greek city. Have the comics ever explored Wonder Woman's and Aquaman's connection? That both off them have ties to ancient Greece. Should the comics build a connection between the two of them in the New 52? Like in Wonder Woman's comic or Aquaman's?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Have you checked out the Rotworld stuff Corp? Or Earth 2? That's what's getting me through DC right now.

I'm enjoying Animal Man and Swamp Thing still, although the Rot's sort of wearing thin as a compelling villain for me. Sustaining interest in one villain and one villain only across 2 series for over a year is a huge challenge, and Snyder and Lemire aren't quite meeting it anymore for me. But hopefully the new wrinkle of splitting Buddy and Alec into their own elemental worlds will be more interesting.

I'm not interested in Earth 2, so I haven't read any of it.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I'm enjoying Animal Man and Swamp Thing still, although the Rot's sort of wearing thin as a compelling villain for me. Sustaining interest in one villain and one villain only across 2 series for over a year is a huge challenge, and Snyder and Lemire aren't quite meeting it anymore for me. But hopefully the new wrinkle of splitting Buddy and Alec into their own elemental worlds will be more interesting.

I'm not interested in Earth 2, so I haven't read any of it.

I got burnt out on Swamp Thing and Animal Man after 8 issues. When the nu52 first started, they were easily my top 2 titles. But like you said, stretching one villain over a year's worth of 2 titles was just way too much. I got bored.

 

[Anubis]

I was thinking, Wonder Woman is Greek, her father is now Zeus and the Amazons have connections to ancient Greece right? Aquaman is from Atlantis, which is an ancient Greek city. Have the comics ever explored Wonder Woman's and Aquaman's connection? That both off them have ties to ancient Greece. Should the comics build a connection between the two of them in the New 52? Like in Wonder Woman's comic or Aquaman's?

Atlantis wasn't a Greek City. It was it's own autonomous state.....it was just written about by a Greek writer.

 

[HighFivingMF]

So who is James Jr's mom? Sarah?

Barbara. Pretty sure she was pregnant with him in Year One if I remember right.

 

[Anubis]

That is so annoying when a mother names their daughter after themselves.

I mean, unlike boys, you can't shove a Jr. in there. (Yes I'm aware Babs isn't her daughter, but you know, it got me thinking and s**t.)

 

[WompuM]

I'm not interested in Earth 2, so I haven't read any of it.

You should check it out brah. It's good comics.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Like I said, I'm not interested in "just like them, but..." versions of the JSA. The differences from the original versions irritate me already and I only know about them from a few articles I've seen.

 

[javi1024]

Barbara. Pretty sure she was pregnant with him in Year One if I remember right.

That is so annoying when a mother names their daughter after themselves.

I mean, unlike boys, you can't shove a Jr. in there. (Yes I'm aware Babs isn't her daughter, but you know, it got me thinking and s**t.)

So James and Barbara name their children James and Barbara? How original. I got the impression that they were half siblings. Like when Jim took Babs and her friend to the lakehouse, when his wife/ex-wife said "It's so nice you let James come along" made it like they lived separately or were from different mothers or something. I dunno, I was confused.

 

[Jordacar]

Did we first meet Barbara (Jim's wife) in Year One?

 

[Manic]

So James and Barbara name their children James and Barbara? How original. I got the impression that they were half siblings. Like when Jim took Babs and her friend to the lakehouse, when his wife/ex-wife said "It's so nice you let James come along" made it like they lived separately or were from different mothers or something. I dunno, I was confused.

I'm a little shaky on details and whether it's even in continuity, but I think the younger Barbara was raised thinking she was Jim and Barbara's niece, so she was named after her aunt. Years later, she found out her dad wasn't her real dad; Jim had slept with his brother's wife, so Jim was her real dad.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Scarecrow_King, The Question, Anubis and CConn.

Thank you for the help!

 

[The Question]

I liked all the infidelity and stuff because it showed that Jim, for all of his ethics and morality as a cop, is a deeply flawed man overall. But I was not a big fan of the daddy drama with Babs. I really hope that if the retcon changed anything, it just went ahead and made Jim Babs' biological father and Barbara her biological mother. He still cheated on Barbara with Sarah Essen so the flawed family man aspect is still there, but we can at least avoid the weird disconnect of literally everyone (including most comic readers) knowing Jim as Babs' father even though he technically wasn't.

I always thought that adoption angle was super-weird.

I'm pretty sure the only place it came from was Frank Miller forgetting to give Gordon a teenage daughter in Batman: Year One. DC tended to get into really convoluted No-Prize answers for minor oversights like that back in those days.

 

[The Question]

That is so annoying when a mother names their daughter after themselves.

I mean, unlike boys, you can't shove a Jr. in there. (Yes I'm aware Babs isn't her daughter, but you know, it got me thinking and s**t.)

Why not? Is junior an inherently masculine term?

 

[Anubis]

Apparently.

I've never met a Rachel Jr.

 

[HighFivingMF]

According to King of the Hill if the daughter is named after her Father she can be a junior.

 

[CConn]

It's because women traditionally don't keep their maiden name their entire life.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So they get to suffer through the confusion of having the same name as their moms until some gallant man comes along to make honest women out of 'em instead. Good deal.

 

[smallville fan]

Where can I find release dates for new 52 comic titles??

 

[Anubis]

DC Comics.com

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Were the Jimmy Olsen back-up stories that Nick Spencer wrote ever collected in a trade?