The Official "Ask A Brotha" Thread

[Dr Tactics]

Saying someone is racist or prejudiced is an argument in semantics.

Very True. Thats just how I see the word difference.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

It doesn't matter the term, but the point is that Jill Scott's argument is one that was based on racial discrimination that point the finger at other people instead of looking at herself in the mirror and thinking about what she may have did wrong. It was nothing but propaganda for an African American women magazine to make insecure African American women point the finger at other people and feel better about themselves.

 

[Dr Tactics]

Racism is at it's roots is racial prejudice. What you were talking about is not racism in general, but institutional racism.

And that Racial roots was founded on power of the European over the African Slaves starting 400 years ago. Though their prejudices on their being more civilized than their potential slaves captives it was racism that took the prejudice into action and enslaved them as less than human and as property as livestock.

But as was said its is a argument of semantics.. And I agreed with him

 

[Erzengel]

Tipping.

Little stereotype around here that waiters/bartenders are disappointed when they see who seated in their sections.

Thoughts?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Okay, agree to disagree.

 

[Dr Tactics]

It doesn't matter the term, but the point is that Jill Scott's argument is one that was based on racial discrimination that point the finger at other people instead of looking at herself in the mirror and thinking about what she may have did wrong. It was nothing but propaganda for an African American women magazine to make insecure African American women point the finger at other people and feel better about themselves.

While I agree with you to a degree,But I still maintain that it was built more from a competitive standpoint which in turn resulted bitterness and jealousy then in racism/prejudice..

Just looking at it from a Black Woman's point of view

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I'll agree there too.

 

[Dr Tactics]

Tipping.

Little stereotype around here that waiters/bartenders are disappointed when they see who seated in their sections.

Thoughts?

True..

http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-13851.html

A widespread perception in the restaurant industry is that Black patrons tip less than do White customers. As a result, many waiters and waitresses dislike waiting on tables of Black parties, resist being assigned to serve Blacks, deliver inferior service to those black customers whom they must wait on, and refuse to work in restaurants with a large Black clientele. In turn, these attitudes and behavior reduce Blacks' patronage of table-service restaurants, contribute to discrimination lawsuits against restaurants, increase costs and reduce profits of restaurants with large Black clienteles, and deter restaurant chains from opening units in predominately Black communities.

This report draws on the available research to pose and answer questions about race differences in tipping and about what servers, restaurant managers, industry organizations, and restaurant chains could do about those differences. The available research indicates the following:

Tips from Blacks are, on average, lower than those from Whites;
Black-White differences in restaurant tipping are not caused solely by race differences in socio-economic status;
Black-White differences in restaurant tipping are evident among the middle-class as well as the lower-class;
Black-White differences in restaurant tipping do not disappear when both groups get comparable service;
Blacks tip less than Whites even when the server is Black;
Blacks are much less familiar with the 15- to 20-percent restaurant tipping norm than are Whites;
Blacks tip less than do Whites in many (but not all) other service contexts; and
Asian-White and Hispanic-White differences in tipping are smaller, less robust, and have drawn less attention than Black-White differences in tipping.
The research findings suggest that restaurant managers, executives, and the industry as a whole should try to educate all of their customers about restaurant tipping norms. Such an educational campaign could involve informational brochures in restaurants, as well as an industry-wide effort promoted by trade associations.

Though IMO I think that if you give great service you'll get a decent tip but if you already think you'll get a lousy tip due to the waiters/waitress prejudice then you will get a lousy tip

 

[chamber-music]

I'm glad I live in England where tipping isn't such a big issue.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I tip for waiters, but when it comes to delivery drivers I do ted to cheapen out sometimes. When I'm being charged for tax, a delivery fee, and a tip, $6 delivery food goes up to $10, $11. Sometimes I just don't feel like paying more as a broke college student.

 

[terry78]

I will sadly have to agree on the tipping thing. When I was a grocery bagger and carried out groceries for customers, white people would tip me all the time. Well, the older ones, not the bratty 20 somethings. I think with black people, we do sometimes look for an excuse for someone to not please us. Self fulfilling ****, man.

 

[E-Man]

Dear brotha,

What happened to hip hop?

very respectfully,
//signed//
knowsbleed

People Under The Stairs, brah. Take your ass to YouTube and discover them now....I said NOW!

I'm glad I live in England where tipping isn't such a big issue.

It's funny how tipping gets a bunch of people riled up here in the U.S. of A. Both sides are bad, but I laugh at the bitter waiters and waitresses who act as if someone not tipping is the ultimate betrayal.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm black and I always tip 15%.

Some blacks need to realize that low tipping hurts how blacks are served by waiters in general.

I think I'm a nice and generous black person partially because I'm trying to destroy negative black stereotypes for people I encounter.

Seems to me some black people pride themselves on being callous and self-centered. It's a version of "keeping it real" and it only hurts us as a race.

 

[terry78]

I think it's up to 18% now, my man.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't think a lot of them think of it as an ultimate betrayal, but if you have a hard working waiter/waitress busting their ass over demanding table of 8, and on a $198 bill and add a $2 tip?

 

[terry78]

I'm black and I always tip 15%.

Some blacks need to realize that low tipping hurts how blacks are served by waiters in general.

I think I'm a nice and generous black person partially because I'm trying to destroy negative black stereotypes for people I encounter.

Seems to me some black people pride themselves on being callous and self-centered. It's a version of "keeping it real" and it only hurts us as a race.

Hurt them before they hurt us, that is how a lot think.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Hurt them before they hurt us, that is how a lot think.

I don't buy it, many blacks treat other blacks like crap too.

I guess being nice and courteous is seen as "being soft" or weak.

But every time a black man or woman acts like a jerk to some innocent person another racist is born. If most blacks were nice people it would cut down casual racism a great deal. I am certain. It's alot harder to hate nice people unless you wear your cynicism on your sleeve.

 

[E-Man]

I don't think a lot of them think of it as an ultimate betrayal, but if you have a hard working waiter/waitress busting their ass over demanding table of 8, and on a $198 bill and add a $2 tip?

I haven't seen anyone do anything crazy like that, but if they did it's probably because they misread the whole gratuity bit added to it. The thing a lot of people serving need to understand is that most people tip based on the quality of their service. A lot of people who complain are *******s who suck at their job, so it's no wonder why they don't get tipped well. lol

All the big bills I've been on people I've always been with have been more than willing to tip well to compensate. I know it's anecdotal, but it's a lot better than the usual stuff the tipping wars come up with.

 

[Manic]

Wow. I log on, and not only is this thread back, but it's busy as hell.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

And it's up to you know to answer all the questions lol.

 

[PyroChamber]

Is it just me, or do we as black people take ourselves way too seriously?

 

[Manic]

And it's up to you know to answer all the questions lol.

Ah, hell.


I wasn't aware we had a thing with cloves.

Laugh at as much of Django Unchained as you want. It's a dark theatre. Nobody can see you.

Hip-hop, like most music genres these days, is still alive if you take the effort to look for it instead of relying on your local radio stations. Try using Pandora.

kane9321, do you have a Jheri curl? Nobody wants to sit next to someone who'll drip all over them.

$5 says Jill Scott has a non-black male friend who'd make good husband material and wants to get all up in that.

I'm not dating any black women, but I have a very good excuse for that.

Popeye's Chicken & Biscuits, by a country mile.

The very last thing you should call an angry black person is the N-word. That's like the opposite of what you should do, regardless of what letter you end the word on.

Crush is the only grape soda.

I've never given oral before, and I'm kinda ambivalent on the subject.

Haven't seen Django Unchained yet. I haven't been to the movies in months.

I usually try to tip between 15-20%, unless the service is terrible. I once had a waitress forget to place half of my order. She got $1 at the end of the night.

I think some people are just incapable of chilling the hell out.

 

[E-Man]

Welch's is better than Crush. I ain't neva seen no Crush in the hood. You ain't real, homie!

 

[PyroChamber]

Everybody knows anything involving Welch's and grapes is always good.

 

[Manic]

Are we talking about grape soda/pop/whatthehellever or grape juice? Because when I think of Welch's and grape, I think of juice, jam, and grape-punch. I've never seen a carbonated grape soda from Welch's.