The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 3

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I'll be watching the Nicholas Walters fight. That guy packs a heck of a punch for a Featherweight and record the Wilder fight.
 
WOW.....Molina down twice in round 5, once in round 4....He survived the 6th round.
 
Senseless. If Floyd somehow took that fight, and won, all you'd hear about is catchweight this and catchweight that. GGG has enough people he could be fighting, he should focus on that...
 
No way on this planet would Floyd take on GGG....

Floyd would actually win, but Floyd would not want to risk his record against GGG. The guy is a monster KO artist and would at least hurt Floyd a few times.
 
There's not much point in him taking a huge risk in his last fight. He's beaten the guy most guys wanted him to fight and if that had been the last one taking a risk would have been understandable.
 
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/6/1...elims-decline-on-fx-boxing-spike-hbo-showtime

PBC on Spike was the major bust of the weekend, as Erislandy Lara's WBA junior middleweight title fight win over Delvin Rodriguez was seen by an average of just 446,000 viewers, a sharp 42% drop from their event in May. That is a colossal failure and is worse than every Bellator show ever broadcast on Spike TV. Lara was the B-side on a Canelo Alvarez PPV last year (which sold a reported 275-300k buys) but has never proven he is of interest to any casuals on his own name value. After a good start to the PBC on Spike era with fights like Andre Berto vs. Josesito Lopez and Amir Khan vs. Chris Algieri, Lara vs. Rodriguez was neither good matchmaking nor an exciting fight, and the next announced main event is Antonio Tarver vs. Steve Cunningham. PBC is clearly starting to feel that UFC-esque problem of thinking the brand will sell itself when the results show it doesn't.
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OUCH! LOL. Lower ratings that Bellator?? :funny:

Where's Docker2.0 and his explanation on how Lara still deserves a shot at GGG, even after his poor performance and no interest to anybody.

Wonder how Ward's return this weekend is going to be? It's being shown on BET and word is they've been giving away tickets for free.

Big bust #2 on the second guy GGG is supposedly scared of? LOL
 
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Ward's not a name yet to casuals, I don't think anyone is confused there. The fact is, he needs to get back on his grind and hopefully with a strong showing, he can get back in the ring before the year's over.
 
Ward destroyed pretty much any chance he has at relevance by sitting out imo. His chance was the Super 6, to ride that. He wasted it, badly. He also refuses to move up or cut down to a relevant division.
 
I'm not so sure he won't at some point, but after this much of a layoff, he needs some tuneups before even thinking about going to a new weight IMO...
 
He can't cut to 160 and he won't move up to 175 because he doesn't want to face the best guys there. This isn't about ring rust. At least GGG has people running from him at 160. Ward doesn't even have that.
 
DarthSkywalker said:
He can't cut to 160 and he won't move up to 175 because he doesn't want to face the best guys there. This isn't about ring rust. At least GGG has people running from him at 160. Ward doesn't even have that.
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Why would he have that, he's been off for how long, almost two years? It's absolutely about rust. What sense would it make for him to jump back into the ring after a long layoff right into a new weight? Ward hasn't shown any propensity to back down from anyone. A reluctance to leave Oakland, ok. Fear? Not at all.
 
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He's been off for how long, almost two years? It's absolutely about rust. What sense would it make for him to jump back into the ring after a long layoff right into a new weight? Ward hasn't shown any propensity to back down from anyone. A reluctance to leave Oakland, ok. Fear? Not at all.
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He has shown fear of Kovalev, while calling out a smaller guy in GGG.
 
Doc Samson said:
Ward's not a name yet to casuals, I don't think anyone is confused there. The fact is, he needs to get back on his grind and hopefully with a strong showing, he can get back in the ring before the year's over.
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:whatever:

Ok, so the argument with GGG is that he's 33 years old and needs to fight Ward NOW.

Yet Ward is 31 or 32 and needs more tune ups before he faces Kovalev and gets adjusted to a higher weight?

Originally Posted by Doc Samson
He's been off for how long, almost two years? It's absolutely about rust. What sense would it make for him to jump back into the ring after a long layoff right into a new weight? Ward hasn't shown any propensity to back down from anyone. A reluctance to leave Oakland, ok. Fear? Not at all.
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http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-if-i-beat-sergey-kovalev-then-what--78770

"if I fight him and beat him, then what?" - Andre Ward on Kovalev

In other words, he's going to keep ducking him.

A quick google search and here are three separate occasions where Kovalev's trainer, promoter and Kovalev himself call out Ward:
http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalevs-trainer-andre-ward-needs-meet-us-175--84151

http://thaboxingvoice.com/duva-says...en-against-steveson-and-promoter/24123?var=no

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/joh...and-the-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-spar/

and yet, no peep from Ward or his fans. All that comes from them are, it won't be on PPV, ring rust, need a couple of fights to adjust to the weight, need more time to build up the fight.

But when it comes to GGG, the complete opposite.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.
 
Iron_Stark said:
:whatever:

Ok, so the argument with GGG is that he's 33 years old and needs to fight Ward NOW.
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Iron_Stark said:
Yet Ward is 31 or 32 and needs more tune ups before he faces Kovalev and gets adjusted to a higher weight?

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-if-i-beat-sergey-kovalev-then-what--78770

"if I fight him and beat him, then what?" - Andre Ward on Kovalev

In other words, he's going to keep ducking him.

A quick google search and here are three separate occasions where Kovalev's trainer, promoter and Kovalev himself call out Ward:
http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalevs-trainer-andre-ward-needs-meet-us-175--84151

http://thaboxingvoice.com/duva-says...en-against-steveson-and-promoter/24123?var=no

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/joh...and-the-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-spar/

and yet, no peep from Ward or his fans. All that comes from them are, it won't be on PPV, ring rust, need a couple of fights to adjust to the weight, need more time to build up the fight.

But when it comes to GGG, the complete opposite.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Show me where I've ever said Ward needs to fight GGG at all, or vice versa, and then you'd have a point. As usual, you don't. All I've ever said is, IF GGG's trainer is going to keep calling him out, then they should be wiling to fight. If the media is going to hype dude up to be some monstrous fighter everyone is scared of, then they should be willing to fight. That's it, and that's all.

Kovalev is a smaller name than GGG, so naturally nobody is going to be paying attention to what he or his camp says in relation to GGG. That's pretty standard. Ward is simply saying if he moves and beats him, who else is there in that division to fight? Pascal? Really?

I never said that fight should happen right away, or any big fight for that matter, because Ward's been off for almost 2 years. Show me anything different, and then we can talk.
 
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Who you guy's got Porter V Broner tomorrow night guy's?

I think Porter got this.
 
If Broner wants any further career at all, he better win. I'm not sure which way it's going to go though...
 
If it wasn't a catch weight, I'd have Porter easily. Broner is far to hittable for someone with Porter's power. But with the weight BS, you never know.
 
Nah I actually have Broner by KO late. Porter is a bit wild and that catch weight is really going to hurt him. I don't see Broner taking him lightly because he KNOWS he has a fight on his hands. Despite Broner's big mouth, dude does have talent. Porter is going to be gassed around the 7th round, especially with the way he fights.
 
Paulie was lighting Broner up. The guy isn't hard to hit. As I said, the only problem is the weight. Otherwise, I'd think this was easy.
 
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