The Official Casting The Superman Reboot Thread - Part 1

[Man of Tomorrow]

And which trades are these?
I'm hoping not the ones that said there was no Lois.

Variety etc They didn't say no Lois. They said Lois would not be the female lead, and that Kruger, Eve and Pike were up for the lead female role which was someone else (likely to be Ursa now).

 

[Dark Knight]

Jor-El = Bana

Okay. Here are the actors I think it will come down to for the role of Jor El:

Viggo Mortensen
Jim Caviezel
Russell Crowe
Gerard Butler
Eric Bana
Jon Hamm

 

[Project862006]

Variety etc They didn't say no Lois. They said Lois would not be the female lead, and that Kruger, Eve and Pike were up for the lead female role which was someone else (likely to be Ursa now).

but did'nt like within a week of that article all 3 of them got new projects lol

 

[Majik1387]

Yes. And thus far, other than Shannon and Costner, no rumors or "inside info" have been true.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Luke Evans - Lex Luthor

Adrien Brody - Brainiac

Richard Jenkins - Perry White

Johnny Simmons - Jimmy Olsen

Ben Foster - John Corben

Maggie Q - Ursa

Sam Lane - Stephen McHattie

 

[Sabaoth]

No, it's the cinematic equivalent of affirmative action. I've got no issues with a racially diversified cast. But don't do it at the sacrifice for the iconography of 70+ year old characters. There are other parts you can cast without the requirements of being white.

As an aside, there's nothing timely of skin color. That "modern" argument always bugged me.

That's not true. It's not affirmative action, it's about getting the right person for the job.
Characters like Perry White and Jimmy Olsen IMO are more malleable than say Lois Lane or Clark Kent.
Denzel Washington would make an excellent Perry White.

 

[Majik1387]

I think he'd be horrible honestly. For an actor who always plays himself, he's not the character of Perry.

 

[KRIM]

Are you saying if everyone was black? If you are just referring to Perry and Jimmy then: For Perry, yes. And like I said for Jimmy, if it was 5-10 minutes, I don't care.

Not necessarily black, just non-white. I'm referring to everyone. Including the big ones like Lois and Lex. Would you consider the claim of "not having an iconic status in live-action" as grounds for altering them?

I am not saying that a black Perry or Jimmy would be a major stride in American racial relations and therefore HAS TO happen. AGAIN Donald would be a great Jimmy because of his humor and acting NOT because he is black. Danny Glover was an afterthought and would be a good Perry because of his acting ability NOT because he is black. I didn't think what black actors would be great in roles -- that didn't happen no matter how much you wish it did.

I'll give my preference so you can better understand my position. When it comes to adaptations and well-established characters, 2 core traits must remain: aesthetic and personality. If they're missing either one, that's enough for me to dismiss them automatically. Glover may act a whole lot like Jimmy, but because he doesn't look like him (or can) then I cannot support him. That goes the other way too. I would not support some unknown magazine model just because he perfectly resembles a superhero, on the probability that they are not an actor and probably aren't capable of becoming one.

Okay. Here are the actors I think it will come down to for the role of Jor El:

Viggo Mortensen
Jim Caviezel
Russell Crowe
Gerard Butler
Eric Bana
Jon Hamm

On the basis of what? This is basically just a listing of every fanboy pick in the last few years.

 

[KRIM]

That's not true. It's not affirmative action, it's about getting the right person for the job.
Characters like Perry White and Jimmy Olsen IMO are more malleable than say Lois Lane or Clark Kent.
Denzel Washington would make an excellent Perry White.

Can you honestly tell me Denzel (or any other minority actor) would be more suited for Perry than literally dozens and dozens of other white equivalents out there in Hollywood? At the very least, there's another actor who can match his talents (for this role) and actually look like the character. Denzel would immediately be booted if one is to weigh the two options without bias.

In concept your position is sound and admirable. Taken to context of a reality in which Hollywood is in overabundance of white actors of every age and type -- the concept becomes futile. If it's a white role, it can be cast. Easily.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Yes. And thus far, other than Shannon and Costner, no rumors or "inside info" have been true.

None have been disproven yet. Variety and Deadline are reliable.

There were rumors of Ursa being the third female initially, no one believed it.

Now we know Zod is the villain. It all seems to be playing out.

 

[rdh007]

Caviezel should be Jor-El with Cavill as Kal-El.

^Pretty sure I typed that in 2004 as well, but will type it again and again until it comes true.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Richard Jenkins as Perry would be amazing Eddie.

 

[Timstuff]

Jason Isaacs is my top choice for Brainiac, because Brainiac needs to have an intimidating but eloquent voice, and Isaacs has that down. I could totally see him as the cold, sinister voice of an AI construct that has destroyed worlds to collect data.

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[Krumm]

Not necessarily black, just non-white. I'm referring to everyone. Including the big ones like Lois and Lex. Would you consider the claim of "not having an iconic status in live-action" as grounds for altering them?

Lois and Lex are iconic.

When it comes to adaptations and well-established characters, 2 core traits must remain: aesthetic and personality. If they're missing either one, that's enough for me to dismiss them automatically.

Character is action.

 

[KRIM]

Lois and Lex are iconic.

Only in the comics (as per the hypothetical). If it still matters for them, it should still matter for the staple characters of the lore. That includes Jimmy.

Character is action.

I have no idea what this means.

 

[Krumm]

Only in the comics (as per the hypothetical). If it still matters for them, it should still matter for the staple characters of the lore. That includes Jimmy.

Disagree. Lois and Lex are FAR more iconic than Perry or Jimmy.

I have no idea what this means.

How a person acts is what defines who they are, not what they look like. If Donald Glover can act like Jimmy, then he is Jimmy.

We're not going to agree, so let's leave it there.

I still like the idea of Donald Glover as Jimmy.

 

[The Shield]

JAMES CAVIEZEL - JOR-EL

Easy.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Brandon Routh as Jor-El

that way he can say "the son becomes the father, the father........woah, i just had deja vu!"

 

[Lobo]

LOL anyway I'ma strong supporter of Tim Daly as Jor El. I think that would be a nice easter egg for fans.

 

[Timstuff]

I have a feeling they want a bigger name for Jor, but I'd be happy if we got Tim Daly. Jim Caviezel is my top "hollywood" choice for the role, though.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm still thinking Jor-el will be someone very well known, a major name. Someone thats along the same lines that brando was for S:TM.
He probably wont have a whole lot of screentime either, just like brando.

 

[WonderWitch]

if Lara will be in the movie, what do you think about Alexis Bledel? i would have supported her as candidate for Lois before Amy was cast if it weren't for her young voice and if i thought she could act tougher, but i think she'd be a good Lara. I mean, look at her amazing eyes and tell me shes not an alien!

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[Project862006]

think Snyder would get John Hamm for Jor El since he is a big name kind of?

and worked with him on SP

 

[flickchick85]

I've always felt like Hamm looked kinda like the older brother of Cavill (and Matt Bomer, for that matter), so I think he'd be a great choice for Jor-El.

 

[KRIM]

How a person acts is what defines who they are, not what they look like. If Donald Glover can act like Jimmy, then he is Jimmy.

If this were completely true, then looks essentially do not matter whatsoever when adapting characters. You know this isn't true and given that you're protective of both Lois and Lex, evidently there is a degree to which you don't completely believe personality is all-encompassing.

I just do not understand championing someone who clearly does not look like the character they're supposed to be playing, especially you've got a whole slew of actors that can fit the bill far better, and you'd have an easier time finding them. Racial alteration should be a last resort as chances are your perfect candidates are already out there ready to be sought after.

Agree to disagree, then.

think Snyder would get John Hamm for Jor El since he is a big name kind of?

and worked with him on SP

I would have easily considered it a possibility, but not with this cast. Zack has stepped his game up tenfold and is reaching for the stars. No offense to Hamm as he's certainly gathered quite a following in the TV realm, but I imagine Zack will want a worthy name to become Brando's successor.