The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 18

[KRIM]

What if Krypton was like futuristic... steampunk? lol

Anachronistic futurism is a tricky slope. But it could work.

 

[camp Blood]

i came up with a futureistic medieval krypton a while ago

 

[Mad Love]

 

[Kurosawa]

What if Krypton looked like it's creators wanted it to?

Oh wait, we can't have that.

 

[KRIM]

Krypton has had so many aesthetic revisions, hardly any one holds special dibs on it. Donner's is the most prevalent design and yet most fans are ready to move on from that. Nothing wrong with another fresh interpretation.

 

[Mad Love]

Why don't purists team up with and create their own fan movie? It shouldn't be that expensive to make if you want it exactly like 40s comics.

 

[STC]

Couldnt Crowe have worked out a lil for this?

 

[Lily Adler]

But Chubby!Jor-El! is love.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Couldnt Crowe have worked out a lil for this?

He actually did lose a bit of weight; he was fatter before. His weight loss is reflected more in his face, as opposed to his gut.

 

[Kurosawa]

Why don't purists team up with and create their own fan movie? It shouldn't be that expensive to make if you want it exactly like 40s comics.

Why do modern fans have such hatred and scorn for Siegel and Shuster and Curt Swan?

 

[camp Blood]

what makes you think that moderns fans have hatred , could it just be ignorance to what the creators had in mind

 

[Kurosawa]

Then why do they automatically react with anger and ridicule when staying true to their intentions is mentioned as a good idea?

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

what makes you think that moderns fans have hatred , could it just be ignorance to what the creators had in mind

There are a lot of fans who appreciate both classic and modern interpretations of the character. And even those fans who strictly prefer the latter clearly don't hate Superman's creators. That's just madness. K doesn't think rationally and gets very carried away. He means well though .. I hope. =)

 

[Kurosawa]

I want Superman's creators to be respected as much as say, LOTR's creator is.

I'm pretty sure that if Gandalf had been wearing a space suit, LOTR fans would have cried foul.

Krypton is a science fiction utopia. It's not freaking Middle Earth.

 

[KRIM]

Krypton is a science fiction utopia. It's not freaking Middle Earth.

So are you going to share these images of Snyder's Krypton, or will you be keeping it from the class?

 

[Kurosawa]

So are you going to share these images of Snyder's Krypton, or will you be keeping it from the class?

How the characters dress is part of the environment. And if it's a science fiction world but the costumes are like that, then it would be like having Gandalf wear a Starfleet uniform in LOTR.

 

[KRIM]

How the characters dress is part of the environment. And if it's a science fiction world but the costumes are like that, then it would be like having Gandalf wear a Starfleet uniform in LOTR.

Well no, because there is enough leeway in the design to not absolutely place it within an older era. The design influences are clear enough, however how it pictures with the setting (which we haven't seen) is still an unknown variable that could feasibly alter its presentation.

For example, the Keaton and Bale batsuits tend to look very cheap, odd, and completely silly in real light. However when filmed under the right circumstances and placed within a complementing atmosphere, it evokes a far more menacing and threatening aura.

 

[Kurosawa]

Every live action Batsuit looks like crap.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Then why do they automatically react with anger and ridicule when staying true to their intentions is mentioned as a good idea?

its not the idea they're reacting to. it's reacting to your incessant narrow minded point of view that you annoyingly spew ad nauseum relentlessly on these boards whenever anything deviates in the slightest manner from what was depicted in action comics #1.

 

[KRIM]

Every live action Batsuit looks like crap.

That is beside the point I was trying to get across.

But let's ignore that for now since you clearly don't care for the explanation. You advocated this:

That is nothing close to approaching a (modern) sci-fi utopian approach to Krypton. That is as retro as it gets.

 

[Kurosawa]

That is beside the point I was trying to get across.

But let's ignore that for now since you clearly don't care for the explanation. You advocated this:

That is nothing close to approaching a (modern) sci-fi utopian approach to Krypton. That is as retro as it gets.

I never said a modern sci-fi utopia. I just said a sci-fi utopia that looked like the Krypton that Siegel and Shuster designed, which is based in Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon. I want retro.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Well no, because there is enough leeway in the design to not absolutely place it within an older era. The design influences are clear enough, however how it pictures with the setting (which we haven't seen) is still an unknown variable that could feasibly alter its presentation.

For example, the Keaton and Bale batsuits tend to look very cheap, odd, and completely silly in real light. However when filmed under the right circumstances and placed within a complementing atmosphere, it evokes a far more menacing and threatening aura.

This is pretty much what I expected from Snyder. Extremely stylized and fantasy. He's always prided himself on his films coming across as live action graphic novels and this looks like something out of a comic book.

My preference would have been more hard Sci-Fi and really put an emphasis on the alien aspect of Krypton but I never expected that from Snyder. That's not his style as a filmmaker.

 

[KRIM]

I never said a modern sci-fi utopia. I just said a sci-fi utopia that looked like the Krypton that Siegel and Shuster designed, which is based in Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon. I want retro.

That is quite specific. I don't think you would have ever been pleased. It sounds like your issue is on the particular artistic route they took, rather than the concept. Snyder could still feasibly portray a utopian, futuristic city, with modern design sensibilities -- and it would likely fail in your eyes.

 

[Kurosawa]

Failing is what they do best.

 

[Motown Marvel]

That is quite specific. I don't think you would have ever been pleased. It sounds like your issue is on the particular artistic route they took, rather than the concept. Snyder could still feasibly portray a utopian, futuristic city, with modern design sensibilities -- and it would likely fail in your eyes.

the specificity isnt entirely uncalled for though, its rooted in popular superman mythos and iconography which could have been a blast to see on film. instead, what little we've seen of snyder's design decisions for this film have been less than impressive and barely represent anything we've seen in regards to superman's source material. im all for creators having a personal vision on the character, but it should be in respect to the source material they're translating. and im not really getting that from snyder.