Capcom The Official Devil May Cry Thread

YES! Its a great game and gets hated on by DMC purist who were pissed off by the reboot. If you've never played the previous games, you really wont have anything to judge against it, so your opinion will be more unbiased. It truly is a great game

Cool, thanks, yeah always loved the look of the games but never played any as went years without a console. But with it being cheap I thought I would ask, thanks.
 
YES! Its a great game and gets hated on by DMC purist who were pissed off by the reboot. If you've never played the previous games, you really wont have anything to judge against it, so your opinion will be more unbiased. It truly is a great game
It is a mediocre game, that is poorly written and can't compare to the combat of the best of the series or the genre. Devil May Cry is a truly great game. Devil May Cry 3 is a truly great game. Devil May Cry 4 is good.

Havok did you call Platinum overrated? Because if that was you, you think DMC is a better game then either Bayonetta or Revengeance? Because that isn't reality. :funny:
 
Can't say a lot about DmC. I'm honest about it, I avoided it because of the direction it took. Yeah, the stories in the previous games were nothing to write home about. DMC3 was probably the most interesting though, because the focus was on the rivalry between Dante and Virgil. But overall I just like the cheesiness of the franchise. It's just your typical anime-esque power fantasy, being a badass, kicking the ass of someone 3 times the size of you, and being a smartass, while awesome metal music is playing in the background.

Ninja Theory got the job to reboot the franchise, and pretty early on they made it clear like they're too good for the franchise. And DmC turned into your typical gritty reboot, that takes itself way too seriously, pretending to have a smart story. And turning badass Sparda into a gimp, really didn't help me get sold on the reboot. Yeah, the gameplay is solid, never really heard anyone call it crap, but it's just not as good as Capcom's previous work.

Not telling you not to get it. If you can get it cheap, and enjoy a nice action game, go for it. But I'd also recommend to try out DMC3 and 4 when you get the chance. DMC4 actually got a remastered release some time ago, and added 3 additional playable characters.

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Never played any if the Devil May Cry games before, but the DMC Definitive Edition is quite cheap on Amazon, is it worth getting?

Yeah, it's a solid game. Don't listen to a lot of the naysayers about it, there's a lot of bitterness surrounding the situation still, but standing alone DmC is still a good game, even if it doesn't stand up well to most of the pre-reboot titles.
 
It is better then Devil May Cry 2. I will give it that.

Didn't it do rather badly in terms of sales. Is that down to bitterness? Or did people see that footage and go, "nah".
 
It is better then Devil May Cry 2. I will give it that.

Didn't it do rather badly in terms of sales. Is that down to bitterness? Or did people see that footage and go, "nah".

Did my post say anything about sales?
 
Never played any if the Devil May Cry games before, but the DMC Definitive Edition is quite cheap on Amazon, is it worth getting?

I say get it. I was reluctant for the longest time and I finally bought it like a year ago. If you can get past some of the uglyness, you might find a rather good game in there. Since you never played any of the previous DMC games you might enjoy it better than most DMC fans? I don't know.
 
Thanks for the info guys and gals, seeing as it's cheap I will probably get it, always liked he look of the games, including this one.
 
Did my post say anything about sales?
The point was the reaction was not simply bitterness by fans. So it isn't like the public saw this game and were like, "cool" even with the good reviews.
 
It is a mediocre game, that is poorly written and can't compare to the combat of the best of the series or the genre. Devil May Cry is a truly great game. Devil May Cry 3 is a truly great game. Devil May Cry 4 is good.

Havok did you call Platinum overrated? Because if that was you, you think DMC is a better game then either Bayonetta or Revengeance? Because that isn't reality. :funny:

yes I did say Platinum was overrated and yes I do think DmC is better than both of those games. I liked Bayonetta so they are on a similar level but Rising was terrible. Ive said that my opinions on that several times before. I dont need to go into that here
 
The point was the reaction was not simply bitterness by fans. So it isn't like the public saw this game and were like, "cool" even with the good reviews.

Sales have nothing to do with quality, or what I said.

yes I did say Platinum was overrated and yes I do think DmC is better than both of those games. I liked Bayonetta so they are on a similar level but Rising was terrible. Ive said that my opinions on that several times before. I dont need to go into that here

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I can somewhat understand not liking Rising, honestly, especially if your reasoning is that it's a total departure from any type of Metal Gear game and all (I mean, it's a spin-off, but I know some people are really dogmatic about how franchises are portrayed, especially in gaming).

But putting Bayonetta on the same level as DmC is, honestly, pure nonsense though. Outside story, which admittedly is much better in DmC, there's like no possible way I can see how one could even think of them on the same level. Bayonetta is a technical masterpiece of the action genre. DmC isn't even close to that level, and I say this as a fan of DmC, and one of its constant defenders.
 
The thing I dislike about DmC the most is it general presentation and story. The gameplay is mediocre, but so is something like God of War (though God of War always had great boss design, while DmC didn't imo), and I still love it. DmC plays out like BvS. Something a teenage finds cool and edgy, but it does nothing for me.

I like the story of the Bayonetta games. The first more then the second, but both work for me. As they get the joke, while DmC doesn't.
 
Bayonetta's story is awful. Like the early DMC games, it rides solely on its protagonist's charm, but it's junk. DmC maybe wasn't the best story, and it did try to be too edgy, but it was an actual attempt at a story unlike the nonsense you generally get from the genre that barely makes any sense. And there was a lot of good stuff there as well, I liked the take of the demon world being super-imposed on the 'real' world and the connection they made between the two. Dante had a decent and clear character progression. It wasn't great, but it had potential really.
 
Bayonetta's story is awful. Like the early DMC games, it rides solely on its protagonist's charm, but it's junk. DmC maybe wasn't the best story, and it did try to be too edgy, but it was an actual attempt at a story unlike the nonsense you generally get from the genre that barely makes any sense. And there was a lot of good stuff there as well, I liked the take of the demon world being super-imposed on the 'real' world and the connection they made between the two. Dante had a decent and clear character progression. It wasn't great, but it had potential really.
I can understand not liking the story of Bayonetta or how it presented. But the story isn't junk, especially the first one. There relevant coherence in the time travel, the situation with Bayonetta and Jeanne, and how everything plays out.

Bayonetta, Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 3 are simple. That doesn't make them junk imo. They are remind me of 80s action flicks but, with the action to back up the talk. Junk is when you start a game out with the big bad having sex because damnit, this crap is edgy. :funny:

DmC is basically a remake of Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 3. I'd easily take the story in those two games over DmC, though I don't actually hate the Dante in DmC. He is by far the best thing about DmC. him and the nightclub.
 
The first Bayonetta is barely coherent at all, especially once you start getting into the time travel stuff. The second is better, but it loses itself about 3/4 of the way through and you can tell they just kind of give up. The first DMC barely has a story. DMC3 is probably the best of the pre-reboot DMCs, but even its story isn't anything worth talking about. It's obvious that the stories were never a focus point of those games, and the attempts to create one was never put in a lot of real effort. Like I said, the games managed to be carried by their protagonists, and other characters help, too, but junk is pretty apt to the actual storytelling, which is generally devoid of clear coherence, character development, and just good writing period.

DmC's story may not have been good, but I respect that they actually seemed to put effort into crafting an actual story, instead of a bunch of nonsense with cool quips and set pieces over any real story. I love the pre-reboot games, and if Capcom continues the franchise, I think it'd be better to go DMC5 as opposed to DmC2 since their superior games with their gameplay, but at the same time, I'm not going to pretend those games are something they weren't.
 
Honestly, I play DMC1 for Mallet Island. The castle and environs have fantastic designs that I love exploring.
 
It's unfortunate that DMC2 sucked so bad. It still has my favorite Dante design out of all the games. But it gets ignored everywhere, so it doesn't even make it as an unlockable outfit into the other games.

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DMC 1 didnt have much of a story and what was there wasnt presented well. Capcom didnt get the storytelling aspect of the series right till 3 which blew 1 and 2 out of the water. 4 almost felt like a waste of time. They teased this big mystery and introduced new elements but the entire Nero storyline went nowhere and the game ended with it unresolved. It felt like that game tried to do alot while actually doing little. I loved the relationship between Dante and Vergil in DmC. I doubt we'd ever get a sequel but Id be interested in seeing where they go next
 
It's unfortunate that DMC2 sucked so bad. It still has my favorite Dante design out of all the games. But it gets ignored everywhere, so it doesn't even make it as an unlockable outfit into the other games.

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Oh god yes. Dante looked sexy AF in DCM2. BTW I'm one of the few DMC2 fans on Earth :hehe:
 
The first Bayonetta is barely coherent at all, especially once you start getting into the time travel stuff. The second is better, but it loses itself about 3/4 of the way through and you can tell they just kind of give up. The first DMC barely has a story. DMC3 is probably the best of the pre-reboot DMCs, but even its story isn't anything worth talking about. It's obvious that the stories were never a focus point of those games, and the attempts to create one was never put in a lot of real effort. Like I said, the games managed to be carried by their protagonists, and other characters help, too, but junk is pretty apt to the actual storytelling, which is generally devoid of clear coherence, character development, and just good writing period.

DmC's story may not have been good, but I respect that they actually seemed to put effort into crafting an actual story, instead of a bunch of nonsense with cool quips and set pieces over any real story. I love the pre-reboot games, and if Capcom continues the franchise, I think it'd be better to go DMC5 as opposed to DmC2 since their superior games with their gameplay, but at the same time, I'm not going to pretend those games are something they weren't.
What is hard to follow about the first Bayonetta game? What isn't coherent? I followed it without a problem the first time I played it.

I don't find much craftsmanship in DmC's story, so that is probably where we are going to part ways on this, which is fair. I didn't think turning Vergil and Sparda into cowards, Mundus into whatever he is, or Dante into a cutter was trying to tell an actual story. It felt like they were trying to make it something distinctly different, on purpose. Even as it is basically the same story, just with grungy characters. Like changing the boys origin, what Sparda was, etc. So it isn't "more a story" it is just different. And considering it was drawing on two separate games for its story, it did less with more.

There are quips and big action set pieces in the original DMC games. A lot of my favorite parts are Dante teasing the bosses. But what I loved about 1 and 3 in terms of character and story, was the subtle and heartfelt stuff, like the connection and differences between Dante and Vergil. Is over the top? Yeah. Does it hit the perfect sweet spot something like Robocop does? Not even close. But it always worked for me, and the story there I cared about. I wanted to know what happened to these people, what ended up finally separating Dante and Vergil, even if I was begging Dante to put a damn shirt on in DMC3. When you see how Dante handles Beowulf and then you see how Vergil handles him, that is character and story work, and it works. I think it was pretty great that when I finished DMC I wanted to know more about Sparda, who he was. Which he get hints out with his character skin.

I don't need to make DMC or DMC3 anything other then they were. Two of the best action games of all time (each arguably being the best on their release), which had straight forward, OOT stories, with characters I love.

Bayonetta is actually rather smartly written imo. Especially at how it pokes fun at the tropes of videogames and their treatment of female characters in general, while still having a core built on a strong female character and sisterhood.
 
Honestly, I think if you think anything from those games constitute good writing than we're on such different wavelengths, there's no point in going on with this, because there's no way we can find common ground. Agree to disagree.
 

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