The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 9

[webhead731]

Oh no
Someone that no one even liked or cared about with no significant role dies in a mediocre movie *gasp*

NOT RATHA! OH THE HUMANITY!

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Oh no
Someone that no one even liked or cared about with no significant role dies in a mediocre movie *gasp*

NOT RATHA! OH THE HUMANITY!

No, he didn't.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Now, in film canon, technically yes and no he didn't. Since he died via a deleted scene, then it technically isn't canonical. Now, there won't be any reference to him in TASM2, because he did in that scene of lizard eating him in TASM1 that was offscreen / deleted.

 

[Green Goblin]

Idk if you're being serious? TASM is almost two years old, and has been on dvd/bluray since November of 2012.

No,

That scene implied that there was, to a certain degree more to his origin than just being bitten by a Spider and his father creating the Spiders.

Though it doesn't necessarily mean Richard Parker tinkered with his son as many here thought.

 

[Green Goblin]

Regardless, Dr. Ratha is dead: http://www.superheromoviesnews.com/2013/11/the-amazing-spider-man-2-daily-bugle.html

Doesn't necessarily mean that the deleted scene is canon though. Hopefully people will stop asking for a character whom was a plot device used to transform Connors into the Lizard to come back in TASM2...

 

[A Necessary Evil]

No,

That scene implied that there was, to a certain degree more to his origin than just being bitten by a Spider and his father creating the Spiders.

Though it doesn't necessarily mean Richard Parker tinkered with his son as many here thought.

Wtf I never said that wasn't the point of the scene? I said that Ratha died in that.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Saw the climax battle in Spider-Man 3 again recently, still a great climax battle

 

[Victarion]

I've always liked how Jameson didn't rat out Peter when the Goblin threatened him.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Probably the best Jameson moment in the movies

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Yes, I loved that too. Very much. The only moment I can remember when Jameson wasn't a mere comic relief and showed some integrity.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Talking about Jameson with integrity in Raimi movies is too much
Laugh at him

 

[webhead731]

I always figured that too...but then I thought maybe he didn't rat him out because if he did, he may lose his only photographer who could get pics of Spider-Man?

 

[Senator Pleasury]

I always figured that too...but then I thought maybe he didn't rat him out because if he did, he may lose his only photographer who could get pics of Spider-Man?

And if he didn't, he may lose his life.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'd rather think it's cause he's good at heart
Dude paid for Parker's wedding, and his attorney fees in the 90s cartoon
I think he also paid the attorney fees in one comic or another

 

[The Joker]

Did anyone miss Jameson christening the villains their names in SM-3? It became a kind of tradition;

"The Green Goblin, you like that? Made it up myself. These weirdos all got to have a name now"

"Doctor Octopus, new villain in town....'Doc Ock'"

Though technically Hoffman came up with Doctor Octopus, Jameson just stole the credit for it lol. Though he did come up with Doc Ock.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I thought Green Meanie was a better name for Goblin, personally.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yes, I loved that too. Very much. The only moment I can remember when Jameson wasn't a mere comic relief and showed some integrity.

You're right about that. But I really do love Jameson in SM2.

"Food poisoning scare sweeps city! I'm a little nauseous, yeah!"

"Ms. Brant! Get me a violin!"

 

[DX]

"Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel."

"You don't trust anybody, that's your problem."
"I trust my barber."

 

[A Necessary Evil]

 

[Spooderman]

I'd rather think it's cause he's good at heart
Dude paid for Parker's wedding, and his attorney fees in the 90s cartoon
I think he also paid the attorney fees in one comic or another

I think it was Matt Murdock defending Spider-Man in the 90s cartoon.

While J. Jonah Jameson is good at heart in the Raimi films, he doesn't really have the depth of the Jonah from the cartoon. In the cartoon Jonah hates Spider-Man because a masked hitman killed his wife.

In Spectacular Spider-Man Jonah specifically says he tarnishes Spidey to get better headlines (and Spidey stole his son's thunder once), and in Ultimate Spider-Crap, Spidey actually is a menace so Jonah is more or less justified in hating him.

In the Raimi filsm, he hates Spider-Man because... he just does. But I still love his character.

 

[Green Goblin]

I would have loved to have seen Raimi do Mysterio, that's one villain I think he could have done well for sure!

 

[Picard Sisko]

Imagine Bruce Campbell actually turning out to be Quentin Beck in that series? He was taking up different professions to help his acting career and learning to disguise himself the whole time….

Oh, the things that could have been. :'(

 

[The Villain]

I would have loved to have seen Raimi do Mysterio, that's one villain I think he could have done well for sure!

Yes well I have a feeling that Avi Arad would not have agreed to put in Mysterio.

He seems to insist he is too expensive for a film. I do not hate him just dont like him or his ideas.

He seems to be trying to do with Webb what he did with Raimi and adding characters that were decided by him and Sony along time ago.

I mean was it not him that wanted to add Vulturess in SM4? Vulture okay with that but Vulturess? Need I say more.

Well with the Bruce Campbell scene in SM2 were he says "it helps maintain the illusion" that sure did make a few fanboys/gals out there think Mysterio was gonna be next. Or he was him. Did he voice Beck in Spider Man 2 game?

t:

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Well, Avi Arad is in fact a moron, so you wouldn't be wrong to not like him.

 

[Picard Sisko]

"In fact a moron."

Can you at least justify that claim?