The Official Lex Luthor Casting Thread - Part 5

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I think the reason Lex works so well as a corrupt businessman, and why I prefer that interpretation, is that it better compliments Superman.

It's basically like Lex is the representation of everything Superman is against, and fighting to eradicate.

If he's just some criminal, or a mad scientist type... why is that such a big deal for Superman?

But to have him be literally in charge of a lot of the things that Superman has to deal with on a daily basis; to be the man behind most of the injustice and corruption and dirty deals and covered up murders... well that has a lot more meaning to me in terms of how powerful an arch nemesis he is. It makes more sense.
 
I'd say Lex works best as the criminal genius businessman, like in Brian Azzarello's Luthor graphic novel, the Black Ring trade paperback, and the last seasons of JLU. Someone who is ostensibly just filthy stinkin' rich and corrupt, but then turns out to be so much worse and so much more powerful than just a mad armored scientist or corrupt CEO could be. Kind of like a more disciplined and competent Tony Stark, but with a more professional demeanor masking a huge obsession.

And Spacey was great as Lex, it's just his plan in the movie seemed redundant and self-defeating. Cumberbach as Lex sounds awesome, but would seem stereotypical.

I like that he eventually became a amalgam of a mad scientist and a businessman. But I recall when man of steel first came out he was just a corrupt business man and there are already tons of corrupt business man as it is. Which is why I never liked the idea of him being just a corrupt businessman. I would always love how he was portrayed in All Star Superman.
 
I think the reason Lex works so well as a corrupt businessman, and why I prefer that interpretation, is that it better compliments Superman.

It's basically like Lex is the representation of everything Superman is against, and fighting to eradicate.

If he's just some criminal, or a mad scientist type... why is that such a big deal for Superman?

But to have him be literally in charge of a lot of the things that Superman has to deal with on a daily basis; to be the man behind most of the injustice and corruption and dirty deals and covered up murders... well that has a lot more meaning to me in terms of how powerful an arch nemesis he is. It makes more sense.

What I meant was that when they remove the genius and mad scientist part of Lex and make him soley a corrupt businessman its sad. Like I said the amalgam of everything is a great idea.
 
Some people like the idea of Cumberbatch as Brainac or corporate businessman Lex.

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I think he could be great as either one, but I really want him to be the next Joker.

Or if they are REALLY thinking of taking a chance... the next Batman.
 
I think the reason Lex works so well as a corrupt businessman, and why I prefer that interpretation, is that it better compliments Superman.

It's basically like Lex is the representation of everything Superman is against, and fighting to eradicate.

If he's just some criminal, or a mad scientist type... why is that such a big deal for Superman?

But to have him be literally in charge of a lot of the things that Superman has to deal with on a daily basis; to be the man behind most of the injustice and corruption and dirty deals and covered up murders... well that has a lot more meaning to me in terms of how powerful an arch nemesis he is. It makes more sense.

A person like that is tough to fight. He distances himself enough from the crimes he commits that he can't just be captured and tossed into jail like an ordinary robber or murderer, and he's sufficiently powerful to work the system so that even if he is arrested for something he can ultimately beat the rap. Plus, unlike some alien supervillain he doesn't publicly try to destroy the world so that Supes can punch him into oblivion. I wonder how this Superman will handle a villain like Lex.
 
Hopefully with his fists...that's if Lex builds his power suit!
 
What I meant was that when they remove the genius and mad scientist part of Lex and make him soley a corrupt businessman its sad. Like I said the amalgam of everything is a great idea.

Oh well yeah, I like businessman lex to be incredibly intelligent with a keen interest in science at least :)

A person like that is tough to fight. He distances himself enough from the crimes he commits that he can't just be captured and tossed into jail like an ordinary robber or murderer, and he's sufficiently powerful to work the system so that even if he is arrested for something he can ultimately beat the rap. Plus, unlike some alien supervillain he doesn't publicly try to destroy the world so that Supes can punch him into oblivion. I wonder how this Superman will handle a villain like Lex.

Exactly :)

People like to complain that Superman is undefeatable because he's too strong and that makes him boring... but that's why Lex is his greatest nemesis... because he's a man he CAN'T defeat with physical power.
 
The best choice for Lex Luthor is still, and always will be, my man, Jaquin Phoenix.
 
The best choice for Lex Luthor is still, and always will be, my man, Jaquin Phoenix.

LMAO, I can see it now, Jaquin comes on screen looking like a wolfman, goes up to Superman all serious.....then he starts rapping.....badly :funny:
 
Josh Brolin would make a pretty badass Lex. he nailed it as a corrupt businessman in the Wall Street sequel

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Brolin would be a great Lex Luthor.
 
Brolin would be great. Cumberbatch would be a better Joker/Brainiac than Luthor. And Phoenix is more of a Riddler type, or Black Mask.
 
Cumberbatch is too ugly for Batman. No Phoenix as anyone.
 
Sorry, but Cumberbatch is an ugly man. And Phoenix is an overrated actor, who is overrated and would overshadow the name of whatever hero/villain/etc. he'd play. Especially when there are better actors for the roles that actually look the part. It's fine that people like him in his movies, just keep him out of comic book movies.
 
i do like him for lex and unlike past luthor's he looks henry's age range
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Lex should primarily be a scientist, one that has built a business empire from that.

Perhaps a bit like Normon Osborne as portrayed in SM1. He created the company from the ground up, but he was at heart a scientist.
 
Sorry, but Cumberbatch is an ugly man. And Phoenix is an overrated actor, who is overrated and would overshadow the name of whatever hero/villain/etc. he'd play. Especially when there are better actors for the roles that actually look the part. It's fine that people like him in his movies, just keep him out of comic book movies.

I don't see where you grabbed ugly from, but as "they" say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
 
I think the reason Lex works so well as a corrupt businessman, and why I prefer that interpretation, is that it better compliments Superman.

It's basically like Lex is the representation of everything Superman is against, and fighting to eradicate.

If he's just some criminal, or a mad scientist type... why is that such a big deal for Superman?

But to have him be literally in charge of a lot of the things that Superman has to deal with on a daily basis; to be the man behind most of the injustice and corruption and dirty deals and covered up murders... well that has a lot more meaning to me in terms of how powerful an arch nemesis he is. It makes more sense.
If Lex is anything but a businessman, I'll boycott the movie :D

I want him to be the equal and opposite of Superman, the key to any successful villain.

What Superman has with brawns, Lex matches with intellect.
Superman worships his morals and values, Lex abandoned his long ago.
Superman only wants the people of Metropolis to trust and accept him, so does Lex, only so he can run for President.
What Superman has with his powers, Lex has that with Lexcorp.
Superman can change the world, and so can Lex, in his own way...
Superman loved his parents, Lex killed his.
Superman forms friends and surrogate family members, Lex has no friends and destroyed what family he had.
Superman was adopted by parents who wanted to protect him, Lex was adopted by parents who wanted to exploit him for his inheritence.

I could go on forever!
 
I wouldn't call Cumberbatch ugly, he's just very unusual looking. But some of the ladies really dig him, so I could possibly see him pulling off the GQ side of Bruce or Lex. Still think he'd be best as the Joker though, because I think he'd be totally different than Heath and yet still excellent.
 
why is cumberbun all over these boards all of a sudden

was he in a science fiction show or something
 
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