EA The Official Mass Effect Thread - Part 2

[XtremelyBaneful]

Lately I've been thinking, did Mass Effect 3 really have to be the end of the trilogy? Leaving the ending aside, EA and Bioware had a pretty good thing going, before that whole mess. Mass Effect was quite the franchise a major brand. In retrospect I'm surprised EA didn't take steps to keeping the OT going. I mean let's take a look at how big the Reaper war is, it's galaxy wide, and all the races are being curb stomped. You could easily make another trilogy out of the Reaper war. Mass Effect 3 could have been the end of the beginning, and the beginning of new trilogy strictly on the war alone.

If they really wanted to, the original series could still be going on today, or rather just finished. Mass Effect 3 in 2012, figure a bi-yearly release for good quality. Mass Effect 4 in 2014, Mass Effect 5 in 2016, and Mass Effect 6 in 2018.

You know the mission to retake Earth at the end of Mass Effect 3? Well you could of have had missions like that for Palaven, Thessia, Sur'Kesh, across a few more games.

Really in retrospect, it's weird that EA decided not to make the Reaper war several games long. Bet they wish they had now though.

I definitely think Mass Effect 4 would've been Shepard had it not been for the ending. Mass Effect 3's ending was also the trilogy's ending. I for so long hoped that the extended cut would've just been a confirmation of the indoctrination theory, and the game ending in a TBC...I wonder after the backlash of the OG ending how people would've reacted. I suppose it would still piss people off that that in that case Me3 wouldn't be the ending of the trilogy, and they follow it up as a huge dlc (like what Citadel dlc ended up being) or if they just have that as Mass Effect 4.

That would've been a gamble, actually but I wonder if that thought crossed their mind when the controversy started.

Anyways speaking of Gamble, he said "There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously." <---probably why ME4 is a soft reboot going away from the Milky Way. With this copout.

This video is long and corny at times but it does a good job of explaining why the indoctrination theory makes sense even if it isn't fxcking canon

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[AndrewGilkison]

The ending of ME3 hurt the franchise in the sense that you really can't do any kind of direct sequel/followup that takes place in the same galaxy after ME3. You either have to make one of the endings canon or make a game that incorporates all of the endings (which would be too expensive). They are limited by what stories they can do as a result.

 

[Havok83]

The ending of ME3 hurt the franchise in the sense that you really can't do any kind of direct sequel/followup that takes place in the same galaxy after ME3. You either have to make one of the endings canon or make a game that incorporates all of the endings (which would be too expensive). They are limited by what stories they can do as a result.

thats not a problem. Other series do it

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The ending of ME3 hurt the franchise in the sense that you really can't do any kind of direct sequel/followup that takes place in the same galaxy after ME3. You either have to make one of the endings canon or make a game that incorporates all of the endings (which would be too expensive). They are limited by what stories they can do as a result.

well, the indoctrination theory hung on the thread that destroy is the only option, let alone the canon choice.

thats not a problem. Other series do it

exactly. infamous 2 went with good cole as the canon ending of infamous 1.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

thats not a problem. Other series do it

Making a default canon for new players is one thing. I am talking about the players who choose the synthesis ending, verses players who choose to destroy the Reapers and in the process had to destroy the Geth and Joker's robot girlfriend and every other AI. Both completely different world states that blow up the ME world as we knew it in the first two games. Both are also wildly different. Incorporating both means you'd have to make two completely different games if you tried to make an ME game that takes place after ME3 and allow players to import their trilogy saves/world states. That is a problem.

That's why we got Mass Effect Andromeda, where it took place in another galaxy. Because incorporating all the post-ME3 world states into future ME games is an expensive nightmare.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

it seems kinda strange how the crucible would detect all synthetic life in the destroy option but would target only reaper tech in the control option

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The ending always seemed very poorly thought out and last minute to me. Like they just ran out of time and cobbled something together to have multiple endings so they could say they had multiple endings to the game.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The ending always seemed very poorly thought out and last minute to me. Like they just ran out of time and cobbled something together to have multiple endings so they could say they had multiple endings to the game.

before the EC (and frankly after that as well) the multiple endings were basically the same ending, with variation in color. without much context it was just, that ending.

 

[Havok83]

Making a default canon for new players is one thing. I am talking about the players who choose the synthesis ending, verses players who choose to destroy the Reapers and in the process had to destroy the Geth and Joker's robot girlfriend and every other AI. Both completely different world states that blow up the ME world as we knew it in the first two games. Both are also wildly different. Incorporating both means you'd have to make two completely different games if you tried to make an ME game that takes place after ME3 and allow players to import their trilogy saves/world states. That is a problem.

That's why we got Mass Effect Andromeda, where it took place in another galaxy. Because incorporating all the post-ME3 world states into future ME games is an expensive nightmare.

I know what you are talking about. If they wanted to continue based off of the original trilogy, they'd just have to pick one ending as canon and everyone would have to deal with it

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I know what you are talking about. If they wanted to continue based off of the original trilogy, they'd just have to pick one ending as canon and everyone would have to deal with it

let's be honest if there was ever going to be canon ending it'd have to be destroy

 

[Swordmaster]

No it wouldn't.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

No it wouldn't.

it's the only ending with Shepard's last breath.

 

[Iceman]

The ending always seemed very poorly thought out and last minute to me. Like they just ran out of time and cobbled something together to have multiple endings so they could say they had multiple endings to the game.

What a way to end such an epic trilogy.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

What a way to end such an epic trilogy.

maybe instead of releasing the trilogy together, they can do what Sega did with Yakuza and just remake/remaster one game at a time. That would take longer but would give all the games each individual focus, which they all deserve and that could give them a chance to really fix the Me3 ending once and for all lol.

 

[Iceman]

maybe instead of releasing the trilogy together, they can do what Sega did with Yakuza and just remake/remaster one game at a time. That would take longer but would give all the games each individual focus, which they all deserve and that could give them a chance to really fix the Me3 ending once and for all lol.

If that helps them make them as good as possible then that would be better. Will take a fair while to fully get through the first game anyway.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

If that helps them make them as good as possible then that would be better. Will take a fair while to fully get through the first game anyway.

the trilogy was famous for what it was needless to say so if they did go hard on the remake one at a time then I think the ME IP would be poised for resurgence

 

[Iceman]

the trilogy was famous for what it was needless to say so if they did go hard on the remake one at a time then I think the ME IP would be poised for resurgence

Hope so mate. There is a big ME-shaped hole in my gaming life at the moment.

 

[BrollySupersj]

So what would you rather have:

Total remake of Mass Effect 1
HD Remaster of the trilogy with all DLC, tweaks to gameplay (no weapon restrictions etc)

 

[Havok83]

So what would you rather have:

Total remake of Mass Effect 1
HD Remaster of the trilogy with all DLC, tweaks to gameplay (no weapon restrictions etc)

At first I was going to say remaster but if Im honest with myself, Ive barely bothered with remasters this gen and I have purchased so many of them. If they were to offer me a new experience with a ME1 remake, I would be more inclined to play that they a remaster of 3 games, Ive already played through

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Hope so mate. There is a big ME-shaped hole in my gaming life at the moment.

there's nothing really to hope for since all we've been discussing is "what ifs" that hole in your gaming life will continue to gape

So what would you rather have:

Total remake of Mass Effect 1
HD Remaster of the trilogy with all DLC, tweaks to gameplay (no weapon restrictions etc)

I would take total remake of Me1, because I believe it will be successful if marketed correctly which will lead to a total remake of Me2

 

[Iceman]

Remake of Mass Effect 1, especially with better combat and better exploration. That game refined could be a titan as it has my favourite story and villains (while 2 has my favourite characters and gameplay). I can always replay ME3 and 3 as they are if necessary, but of course would prefer remastered versions. And if a ME1 remake was successful we might get remakes for the others too.

 

[Iceman]

there's nothing really to hope for since all we've been discussing is "what ifs" that hole in your gaming life will continue to gape

They better sort this IP out for next gen at least.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

They better sort this IP out for next gen at least.

honestly it doesn't seem like bioware is focused at all with ME anymore. but, november 7th is always a time to be hopeful even though most of the time nothing comes out of it

 

[X Knight]

since ME 1 combat is so different from the rest, I'd rather a remake of ME 1 that brings the combat system more in line with the rest of the games.

with that being said, if all we got was a straight remaster of the 1st 3 games, I would take that, too.

I'd also like a remaster of Dragon Age Origins, too.

 

[Iceman]

honestly it doesn't seem like bioware is focused at all with ME anymore. but, november 7th is always a time to be hopeful even though most of the time nothing comes out of it

Not now, no. I’m sure it’s all hands on deck with their new stuff. A giant like ME can’t sleep forever though and I think they are just waiting for enough years to pass before giving it a huge relaunch. Maybe next gen though.