The Dark Knight The Official Plot holes thread.

[Neolaw24]

You're right, it was the illumanti. Bush has this giant cover up to only make it look like the Joker destroyed the hospital, but we all know the "official story" is a load of bunk. Damn Christopher Nolan, he's one of them, he's trying to withhold the truth of how all those fictional characters died. That bastard

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[Hole Shot]

huh??.. the federal building was a truck bomb... not a rigged demolition

The point was that the whole f'ing building exploded and most of the country was so freaked during the moment no one was concerned about the how. So you just watch, and let Gordon investigate how he did it.

 

[CaptainClown]

why does it matter.. the movie prides itself on being realistic.. the joker rigging a whole hospital with obviously many hundreds of pounds of explosives and nobody noticing is kind of unrealistic and therefore takes away from the movie

No. Even realistic movies do not show every little detail and how it comes along. You are the only one to really be bugged by that because people know that he wired the hospital. It is also possible he wired the hospital when it was going all crazy and insane.

You need to see that it isn't necessary to show how he did everything to show that he did it.

the thing bust into the air as another plane comes by hooks onto it and takes the two out of the area I figured it was fairly easy to figure out lol

If you were following my earlier post and the one I reply to it was sarcasm. I should have put a t: to make it extremely clear.

 

[spartan11]

The biggest plothole. How did Maroni only notice Two-Face was in the car after it was going 35 mph down the highway??

He obviously wasn't in the car before either, as Maroni's bodyguards let him in.

Something must be sloppily missing, or it's a plot hole.

well before maroni gets into the car, you can clearly see one of his bodyguards get pulled out of the screen to the far left, so perhaps he just assumed the person sitting next to him was his bodyguard

 

[Hotwire]

Dent's voice in unaltered, even with...

Spoiler

half of his mouth missing. You'd think with ouly half of your lips, you wouldn't be able to speak clearly.

And also, why wasn't Dent's....

Spoiler

left eye damaged?? Shouldn't it have been messed up, kida like his face?

 

[Magneto29]

Well, even though your points are 'realistic', this is a movie. They're gonna go with clarity of the character before messing him up with reality.
Plus leaving him how he was, cut down on the nastiness of the effects.

 

[The Guard]

I think the barges (wasn't the National Guard evacuating people, what, they didn't do a "security check") suddenly having hundreds of barrels of explosives rigged was harder to swallow than whatever happened to the hospital.

 

[CWP]

Dent's voice in unaltered, even with...

Spoiler

half of his mouth missing. You'd think with ouly half of your lips, you wouldn't be able to speak clearly.

And also, why wasn't Dent's....

Spoiler

left eye damaged?? Shouldn't it have been messed up, kida like his face?

I thought I remember his voice being deeper and raspier.

And the accident burnt everything around his eye up like the eyelid and fried the skin, the fire on his face was just put out before it destroyed his eyeball. It was rather bloodshot from the heat it took, too.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

I think the barges (wasn't the National Guard evacuating people, what, they didn't do a "security check") suddenly having hundreds of barrels of explosives rigged was harder to swallow than whatever happened to the hospital.

I just assumed that the devoted man-power were too busy looking for bombs on the bridges and tunnels...since the Joker's threat mentioned nothing about the ferries...although it does require a small suspension of disbelief that they would not check the ferries for explosives before loading the passengers.

My question was this, and a relatively small one--

Where did the piles and piles of mob money come from? I know the Joker had Lau--are we just to assume that the Joker forced Lau to send the mob's money back from HK?

 

[RKO]

The plot holes about Batman...He's f****ng Batman he knows everything.

 

[PaleHuman]

i forgot- but did it show or mention what Batman did with the wrecked tumbler- did he just leave it in the streets?

 

[JoeCat]

i forgot- but did it show or mention what Batman did with the wrecked tumbler- did he just leave it in the streets?

After the ejection sequence, it self destructs.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

In terms of theme, character, and spectacle, this movie is absolutely perfect

But the lack of explanation for what happens at the party after Batman saves Rachel, just annoys the heck out of me

This is my honest opinion, but I think that Chris Nolan intended to film a few pickups for that scene, but perhaps they were to have been filmed around the time that Heath Ledger had died making it impossible. Don't quote me on that though.

 

[Eggyman]

This is my honest opinion, but I think that Chris Nolan intended to film a few pickups for that scene, but perhaps they were to have been filmed around the time that Heath Ledger had died making it impossible. Don't quote me on that though.

Hahaha!

 

[escobar2248]

Where did the piles and piles of mob money come from? I know the Joker had Lau--are we just to assume that the Joker forced Lau to send the mob's money back from HK?

That was my assumption. He forced Lau into turning it over. I can't remember, did Lau actually say it was in HongKong? Last thing we saw was all of it being loaded into a semi

 

[escobar2248]

And also, why wasn't Dent's....

Spoiler

left eye damaged?? Shouldn't it have been messed up, kida like his face?

If we want to be realistic about it, the dude would HAVE to of been on a morphine pump or something stronger due to the injuries he sustained. Worrying about his eye is the least of the problems.

We are still dealing with a hollywood movie adapted from Comic books. Just enjoy the film.

 

[Doomofman]

i have a few

how could joker set up all thoses schemes with the bombs and things....and also how could he afford it?

How did no one notice the bombs on the ferrys before they left port

How did harvey survive the car crash if maroni(i think thats his name) died in the crash.

Joker stole a load of mob money in the first 5 minutes of the movie.....

They were in a rush because the joker had threatened the city

Harvey had his seatbelt on... Maroni didn't

 

[wikum]

this isn't really a plot hole as such....and i have debated it but still haven't been given a satisfactory answer.

why the **** is weurtz in the elevator with the joker?

1: If he's there to make it look like a raid....how the **** did he sneak a 6 foot killer clown in the front door?

2:Why does it need to even look like a raid in the first place?

3:The Joker can't break in without him? Gimmie a break.

4: If he "helped" The Joker get into the building...why does Joker give him some nasty ass push over?

5: If he "helped" The Joker get into the building...why does he not help Joker find Harvey Dent throughout the rest of the scene?

6:Where the **** is he throughout the rest of the scene?


I never understood why he needs to be in there whatsoever lol.

 

[JL Unlimited]

this isn't really a plot hole as such....and i have debated it but still haven't been given a satisfactory answer.

why the **** is weurtz in the elevator with the joker?

1: If he's there to make it look like a raid....how the **** did he sneak a 6 foot killer clown in the front door?

2:Why does it need to even look like a raid in the first place?

3:The Joker can't break in without him? Gimmie a break.

4: If he "helped" The Joker get into the building...why does Joker give him some nasty ass push over?

5: If he "helped" The Joker get into the building...why does he not help Joker find Harvey Dent throughout the rest of the scene?

6:Where the **** is he throughout the rest of the scene?


I never understood why he needs to be in there whatsoever lol.

1. When Gordon figured out that the Joker was threatening the judge, Loeb, and Dent, he tells his police force to send Wuertz after Dent. I'm assuming the Joker got to him as he was heading into the penthouse. Joker and his men probably killed everyone in the lobby.

2. It's not a raid. Gordon only sent Wuertz for Dent. I don't think Joker was using Wuertz yet at this point.

3. See #1 and #2.

4. See #3.

5. See #3.

6. He's still a cop, albeit a corrupt one. I don't think he would publicly help the Joker.

Watch it one more time and you'll see how it unfolds.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

That was my assumption. He forced Lau into turning it over. I can't remember, did Lau actually say it was in HongKong? Last thing we saw was all of it being loaded into a semi

May be not. I think they loaded the truck with all the cash, leaving the marked bills behind...but I'm not sure it was ever sent to HK. That would make sense.

 

[Infinity9999x]

why does it matter.. the movie prides itself on being realistic.. the joker rigging a whole hospital with obviously many hundreds of pounds of explosives and nobody noticing is kind of unrealistic and therefore takes away from the movie

You know what you're right. They should have explained that. You know what else they should have explained? How the heck does Batman have time to apply that black makeup around his eyes every time he gets the suit on? I mean, he changed pretty fast in the penthouse scene.

And when does Batman go to the bathroom? I never saw him go to the bathroom in the movie, so did he not go to the bathroom the whole time?

This is a superhero movie, I mean, come on, we don't need explanations as to how everything happens. The Joker blew up the hospital. We don't need to know exactly how he did it. It doesn't move the plot along or add to the story. There are hundreds of things that happen in this movie that are unrealistic. Batman having a hang-gliding cape for one, falling out of his penthouse, landing on a car, and not breaking multiple bones is another. Joker not being dead when the semi he's in gets flipped on it's head. Two-face not being dead with how severe his head wound was (nobody in real life would live with a burn hat bad).

The Joker rigging the hospital to blow is hardly the most unrealistic thing in the movie, but you know what? The movie isn't realistic! It just uses elements of realism to ground the story so people can relate to it a bit.

 

[hoopy3]

I agree with the previous posts about the fact that the Joker rigged the hospital and ferries with explosives requires some suspension of disbelief. In regards ti the hospital..i just assumed that the joker had been planning this for some time so the hospital was rigged over many months. In this movie he is clearly always thinking two steps ahead....

My 2 big problems were..

1) I still can't come up with any good reason that the cop would stay in the interrogation room with the Joker..especially with him out of handcuffs..that made no sense.

2) The cops had the Joker surrounded when he was with Lau thanks to the tip from Maroney...Then they see on TV that the Joker threatened the hospital. Why wouldn't they leave at least one SWAT team to capture/kill the Joker...especially since he is the one threatening the hospitals. Instead they abandon the Joker and ALL go to the hospitals or to save Reese. That made no sense at all.

 

[wikum]

1. When Gordon figured out that the Joker was threatening the judge, Loeb, and Dent, he tells his police force to send Wuertz after Dent. I'm assuming the Joker got to him as he was heading into the penthouse. Joker and his men probably killed everyone in the lobby.

Ahhhhhh....now it all makes sense. Thank you! And if you payed attention it makes that scene sweet because you're thinking "Oh Weurtz is here for Harvey" and then BOOM heeeeere's Joker. I like that a lot now.

 

[JL Unlimited]

Ahhhhhh....now it all makes sense. Thank you! And if you payed attention it makes that scene sweet because you're thinking "Oh Weurtz is here for Harvey" and then BOOM heeeeere's Joker. I like that a lot now.

No problem. Glad I helped. This movie definitely takes many viewings to catch everything.

 

[JL Unlimited]

I agree with the previous posts about the fact that the Joker rigged the hospital and ferries with explosives requires some suspension of disbelief. In regards ti the hospital..i just assumed that the joker had been planning this for some time so the hospital was rigged over many months. In this movie he is clearly always thinking two steps ahead....

My 2 big problems were..

1) I still can't come up with any good reason that the cop would stay in the interrogation room with the Joker..especially with him out of handcuffs..that made no sense.

2) The cops had the Joker surrounded when he was with Lau thanks to the tip from Maroney...Then they see on TV that the Joker threatened the hospital. Why wouldn't they leave at least one SWAT team to capture/kill the Joker...especially since he is the one threatening the hospitals. Instead they abandon the Joker and ALL go to the hospitals or to save Reese. That made no sense at all.

1.) Now I don't know much about interrogation rooms but I'm positive that the one Joker was in didn't have have locks on the doorknobs. That's why Batman had to use a chair to jam the door before he put the beatdown on Joker. So, Stephens was there to keep watch so Joker can't escape. If Joker tried to go near him, Stephens would be ready with his gun. That's why he taunted him and practically dared Stephens to beat him up. So he'd go closer to him and that's when Joker used the broken shard of glass.

2.) They didn't have enough time to catch the Joker and interrogate him. He's already shown earlier in the movie that they can't make him talk even with excessive force. Plus, they don't know if the Joker has a detonator or if the bombs are on a timer. All they know is that Joker said that a hospital will blow up in an hour if Reese is still alive. It's policy to not give into a terrorist's demands. That's why they went to save Reese. You saw the mayhem the Joker caused with all the civilians trying to kill him.