The Official Punisher by Rick Remender / Punisher MAX thread

[PaleRider]

still liking Frankcastle but was dissapointed that Tony Moore wasn't doing the art on the last issue.

 

[NDX]

Roland Boschi's art looked better here than it did for the whole Ghost Riders: Heaven's On Fire series. It still fit the story, but like the poster above me, I got comfortable with Moore for the arc and was disappointed not seeing his art.

 

[runawayboulder]

Moore and Boschi are rotating in and out, Moore being the primary artist and Boschi as his backup.

 

[runawayboulder]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25681

Courtesy of Marvel Comics, CBR presents an exclusive first look at "Punisher" #19 featuring Frankenpunisher vs. Wolverine's son, Daken, along with a few words about the rematch from series writer Rick Remender! Check back later this week when "Dark Wolverine's" Daniel Way joins CBR to discuss his half of the crossover.

The rematch you begged for: Punisher vs Daken! A few months ago, Wolverine’s son hunted down Frank Castle at the behest of a vengeance-seeking Norman Osborn and sliced him to ribbons. Frank had recently reburied his family and was in a bad place. But Frank’s feeling better now, and he’s ready for round two – as Franken-Castle! Everything you ever wanted all in one comic – in the most brutal, down-in-the-dirt, blood-soaked, slugfest the law will allow per page -- guaranteed to kick you right in your damned face, in mighty Marvel fashion, naturally. So, yeah, this this is going to be amazing. A four part cross-over event with "Dark Wolverine." A hardcore revenge tale through the streets of Tokyo that will leave each character changed in a big way forever. I've been itching to write this since "The List" issue where Daken killed Frank. I knew Frank needed to go down at the end of Dark Reign, and it was a fulfilling chapter to get to write, but it also gave me a never ending itch to write the rematch. Then let Frank get some payback. All it took was one phone call with Dan Way and Marjorie Liu and all the pieces were in place. And it's going to be so much more than you could even guess. We've been okayed to go wild on this. Like a bunch of college aged spring break goers but in an imaginary world full of brightly colored folks who fight a lot. There is a third party who will take part in the festivities. A third participant in the grudge-match who is going to blow off your collective heads. I'll be joined for my half of the cross-over by art master supreme Tony Moore and his solid lead #2 dancers. Simone Bianchi busts out the science on covers. One of which we will now be revealing! Might just be the best cover he's ever done. I'm biased, sure, but c'mon. Take a look at this thing...






.................My only concern is that the "third party" is going to be [BLACKOUT]Deadpool[/BLACKOUT]. I saw a preview image in the recent Wizard which had him and Frank fighting.

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[NDX]

I believe FrankenCastle will be in an issue of

Spoiler

Deadpool Team-Up,

so the image could have been from there.

 

[runawayboulder]

I hope so, I could see it ruining a story I'm dying to see.

Another possibility is [BLACKOUT]Wolverine[/BLACKOUT].

1. He's everywhere
2. The story takes place in Japan.

 

[fat freddys cat]

I hope so, I could see it ruining a story I'm dying to see.

Another possibility is [BLACKOUT]Wolverine[/BLACKOUT].

It will be one of the two of them, they are both every where at the moment as you said.......

 

[The Bruce]

Hey guys! What Ennis Punisher max books should I pick up? Are they connected or can I read them in the order I want?

 

[runawayboulder]

Hey guys! What Ennis Punisher max books should I pick up? Are they connected or can I read them in the order I want?

I would recommend all of them. But the ones that are connected are the first arc (can't remember the name), Up is Down Black is White, Barracuda, Man of Stone, and Long Cold Dark are the ones that mainly tie together (same characters are used). They mostly deal with Frank hooking up with a former CIA agent Kathryn O'Brien and their relationship and how it pans out. Incredible reading.

Mother Russia, Kitchen Irish, and The Slavers are pretty much separate but still are tremendous.

 

[PaleRider]

I would recommend all of them. But the ones that are connected are the first arc (can't remember the name), Up is Down Black is White, Barracuda, Man of Stone, and Long Cold Dark are the ones that mainly tie together (same characters are used). They mostly deal with Frank hooking up with a former CIA agent Kathryn O'Brien and their relationship and how it pans out. Incredible reading.

Mother Russia, Kitchen Irish, and The Slavers are pretty much separate but still are tremendous.

what they said, exactly.

 

[NDX]

Read Born, too. It's worth finding. To me, the best Punisher story, Max or not.

 

[runawayboulder]

Punisher #16

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Release DateWed, April 28th, 2010


"FRANKEN-CASTLE," PART 6
Somewhere on the Demonplanes of black Limbo, two men, two monsters, struggle to murder one another. Frank Castle has taken a pledge to protect the citizens of Monster Metropolis and the only way to fulfill his oath -- murder the hell out of Robert Hellsgaard. But in order to defeat the monster hunter Frank will have to die. Again. The Legion of Monsters are defeated and diminished. Frank's cobbled body is failing him. The bad guys don't stand a chance. A swift kick, a jagged bone sticking through your shin -- enter the conclusion of Franken-Castle!

 

[Shockdingo]

Hmm, I was on a Punisher board and noticed something very strange. Frank is featured in several of the promotional material for Shadowland, but in each depiction he's his old self yet in his main book, he's said to be staying FC for at least another year...hum.

 

[runawayboulder]

Hmm, I was on a Punisher board and noticed something very strange. Frank is featured in several of the promotional material for Shadowland, but in each depiction he's his old self yet in his main book, he's said to be staying FC for at least another year...hum.

I was wondering that myself. I'm sure Diggle has a good explanation for it.

 

[fat freddys cat]

I was wondering th aat myself. I'm sure Diggle has a good explanation for it.

It will be the usual , " This story takes place before events in Punisher The List"

This use to happen all the time when there was a story about Kingpin / Punisher , When Daredevil had sent Kingpin down months before.....

 

[runawayboulder]

Article about upcoming Frankencastle/Daken crossover:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26161

 

[runawayboulder]

Was the family Bullseye terrorized at the end of PunisherMax #7 Kathryn O'Brien's sister? The little girl with the red hair may be the child Frank had with O'Brien. Did Bullseye find them or am I jumping to conclusions?

 

[fat freddys cat]

Was the family Bullseye terrorized at the end of PunisherMax #7 Kathryn O'Brien's sister? The little girl with the red hair may be the child Frank had with O'Brien. Did Bullseye find them or am I jumping to conclusions?

No its not them, and they just one of six familys I think Bullseye has killed,

here what you all think of a new Punisher movie being made ?

Now that the rights are back with marvel, and and marvel have stated that they would like to make a Punisher movie soon,


Which actor would you pick as the Punisher?

Stallone has said he would be interested......

 

[StreetWarrior]

I think this is the wrong thread for that but I'll throw in my $0.02 anyway.

The actor portraying Frank is not the most important aspect of the film. If you look at Warzone, Stevenson was a pretty decent Frank and the movie still sucked so incredibly bad. What a GOOD Punisher film needs is the right tone.

In order for the Punisher to be decent, they need to capture the feel of Ennis' MAX books. I'm not talking about the gore or that dumbass black humor they had in Warzone. It needs to be a film that takes itself very seriously, is extremely dark and violent, but not cheesy, over-the-top, or gory. It needs a smart script that knows what the movie is about in the end: action. But serious , brutal action ala Taken, Man on Fire, etc. This film is all about tone. Something the Dark Knight did really, really well.

As for the movie's plot, I think Ennis' first MAX run would work extremely well for the big screen. Lengthy shoot-outs, a brutal and long fist-fight, a mature and surprisingly deep story. It has it all. Now add a few more scenes of action at the beginning to set the mood, get the backstory out of the way in 5 minutes or less (expository dialogue would work fine) and choose decent enough actors and you have your first true-to-the-character Punisher movie.

As for the actor, Stallone would have the celebrity pull but he might not be serious enough for this role. Maybe Gerard Butler or even Stevenson again could pull it off. It may be best to go for an unknown to keep down costs and potentially get a better actor.

 

[Daredevil]

Am I the only one that thinks that MAX is okay? I mean everyone here seems to think its the Punisher bible but in all honesty, I prefer mainstream. I only like one Punisher MAX story from what Ive read (Slavers) because it wasnt as over the top and filled with horrible language.

Im sorry but hearing ***k in every sentence gets extremely annoying really fast.

It seems like its in there just for the sake of being in there... which is sad because some of the stories are so good and would be perfect if that one thing was fixed. But hey, I digress.

 

[Shockdingo]

I personally like both. I like the real stuff Max offers, but I really like seeing him interact with the MU when done right; him and Daredevil are dynamite in my opinion. That being said, sometimes I do sometimes feel things are pushed for the sake of being pushed in Max.

 

[NDX]

I haven't much enjoyed the current Bullseye arc. Really liked reading Kingpin, but for some reason Bullseye is not clicking for me.

 

[storyteller]

Hmm if shadowland is any implication, Franks status in the marvel universe is about to change again. Or it could that punisher who appears in shadowland isn't actually the real one. Of course no one actually seemed surprised at how alive he was.

 

[runawayboulder]

The Bloodstone was there since day 1 for the purpose of regenerating Frank back to human. Frank even said himself that he was using it's power to enhance his own in order to get revenge on Daken and some others. I think the bad sales for Franken-Castle led to the abrupt change we are seeing in Shadowland and Marvel is letting Remender go into overtime to wrap up the current arc.

 

[fat freddys cat]

Let's hope after the up coming limited series by Remender 'In the Blood' set Frank back to his old self in the 616 MU ,

If marvel reboot the character after this , I would like too see Frank Castle more soldier like and less MAX like insane Punisher( Which I like) to show a difference between the two..