The Dark Knight Rises The Official Rate/Review Thread for TDKR (TAG SPOILERS!!!) - Part 1

[Spider-Who?]

You know what? I'm sick of seeing posts from maniacs who accuse people of nitpicking or being haters because they didn't give Rises a 10 out of 10. Why can't those people just accept other people's opinions without ******** accusations on why some didn't like the movie or liked it but thought that it had a ****load of flaws? Why must I and other posters go through the same ******** everytime one of these films come out? Criticize one or many things and you are called a hater? I especially hate it when it's directed towards me when it comes to these films because I never thought that these films were perfect and I've always criticized them, especially Batman Begins. You know what you crybabies who criticize us non Nolan Zombies, I will always honestly review a movie and that means talking about the warts, if you don't like it don't read my goddamn post.

PS
This is why people hate Batman fans. I forgot why I stopped visiting this place. I need to go back to the Superman Boards, there is less venom there.

I hardly ever come in to the bat forums, so perhaps I've missed something, but is coming into a thread just to post an angry, curse filled (and slightly hypocritical) rant really necessary?

 

[UaalaDan]

Because in the comics, robin is a 15 year old (give or take) kid. Are you really saying that you think seeing a kid running around kicking ass would fit in Nolan's take on Batman? To each his own, but even when you consider the comics, I think Batman running around at night fighting the worlds worst, most sadistic and dangerous villans with a revolving cast of kids at his side is freaking stupid.

He could've named the character Richard Grayson, who was part of the Circus as kid and his parents were killed by a mobster. He then abandoned it to become a cop, to embark in a quest for justice and because of this, he changed his name to protect the people he loved. Also, he was friends with the kids from the orphanage because he is an orphan himself and because one time they went to see him in the circus.

A middle term is created simple like that, faithful to Nolan's universe and faithful to the comics much more than This Robin John Blake BS. A new character was NOT needed. Just a better understanding of the roots of Batman and his universe.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked the way Robin was handled, it was a nice and creative way to handle the character. Also where is it mentioned that the character is 30 or 30+ years old? Personally I thought that the character was probably in his mid twenties.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I hardly ever come in to the bat forums, so perhaps I've missed something, but is coming into a thread just to post an angry, curse filled (and slightly hypocritical) rant really necessary?

Your right you don't come in here so mind your own business because the post obviously wasn't directed towards you.

 

[Denver]

Well, you were the one clutching at straws, but fair enough.

Yeah whatever, I just pointed out that it would be ridiculous for someone to leave their legacy to someone they barely know, and they only shared 2 scenes on film until the ending.
You are creating an entire back story for a character that wasn't even developed to that extent on film.

 

[Spider-Who?]

He could've named the character Richard Grayson, who was part of the Circus as kid and his parents were killed by a mobster. He then abandoned it to become a cop, to embark in a quest for justice and because of this, he changed his name to protect the people he loved. Also, he was friends with the kids from the orphanage because he is an orphan himself and because one time they went to see him in the circus.

A middle term is created simple like that, faithful to Nolan's universe and faithful to the comics much more than This Robin John Blake BS. A new character was NOT needed. Just a better understanding of the roots of Batman and his universe.

To be honest, when they revealed his "real" name, I expected it to be Dick Grayson and was surprised at first when it wasn't. But I guess they changed it for the sake of the common viewer who knows the name Robin but maybe not Grayson. Whatever the reason, I personally didn't mind it and quite enjoyed the character.

 

[Denver]

Because in the comics, robin is a 15 year old (give or take) kid. Are you really saying that you think seeing a kid running around kicking ass would fit in Nolan's take on Batman? Batmans story, especially Nolan's take isn't about innocence and "golly gee, Batman!" humor.

To each his own, but even when you consider the comics, I think Batman running around at night fighting the worlds worst, most sadistic and dangerous villans with a revolving cast of kids at his side is freaking stupid.

So instead of a misguided kid, he takes a grown 30yr old man under his wing?

 

[Spider-Who?]

Your right you don't come in here so mind your own business because the post obviously wasn't directed towards you.

You're gonna make an angry public post on a forum with no indication as to who you're speaking to, and then tell some one to "mind their business" when they comment on it? Grow up.

 

[BatSpider]

So instead of a misguided kid, he takes a grown 30yr old man under his wing?

He was never under his wing though?

 

[Spider-Who?]

So instead of a misguided kid, he takes a grown 30yr old man under his wing?

Heh, he doesn't really take Blake under his wing, does he? More of like gives him the keys to the car and allows him to do with it what he will. IMO, allowing a full grown man (and a cop, no less) to take over is a heck of a lot different than carting a kid around with you into dangerous situations. I mean, can you really imagine any of the scenes in this particular franchise with the Boy Wonder? No thanks.

 

[munchie64]

You know what? I'm sick of seeing posts from maniacs who accuse people of nitpicking or being haters because they didn't give Rises a 10 out of 10. Why can't those people just accept other people's opinions without ******** accusations on why some didn't like the movie or liked it but thought that it had a ****load of flaws? Why must I and other posters go through the same ******** everytime one of these films come out? Criticize one or many things and you are called a hater? I especially hate it when it's directed towards me when it comes to these films because I never thought that these films were perfect and I've always criticized them, especially Batman Begins. You know what you crybabies who criticize us non Nolan Zombies, I will always honestly review a movie and that means talking about the warts, if you don't like it don't read my goddamn post.

PS
This is why people hate Batman fans. I forgot why I stopped visiting this place. I need to go back to the Superman Boards, there is less venom there.

It's actually been pretty good so far. I'm kind of surprised to be honest.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You're gonna make an angry public post on a forum with no indication as to who you're speaking to, and then tell some one to "mind their business" when they comment on it? Grow up.

Oh I'm done with you honey. I got that rant off of my chest after reading several posters whine about people not agreeing that it's the greatest movie ever by making up ******** theories and now I'm moving on. You suck up to those people and I'll just do me as they say. Peace. I am seriously done talking to you about my rant. I stand by it and if you don't dig it, whocares? Anyway, how about Robin?

 

[Spider-Who?]

Wait, so because I'm having a civil discussion with people/questioned the necessity of your rant, I'm sucking up to them? Haha. I love it.

And unless you're a busty redhead with daddy issues, don't call me honey.

 

[Darkness Falls]

And unless you're a busty redhead with daddy issues, don't call me honey.

win t:

 

[M-2]

Lol I just have one issue with the ending... Is Batman really alive??? Or was Alfred simply fantasying as he did in the beginning?? Because Alfred just smiles a little but then you see that look of despair on his face as he gets up from the seat...

Because you also have to remember Bats had to get the bomb 6 miles away from the city, meaning in order for him to survive he would have to be 6 miles away as well...

So was it simply Alfred just imagining that scene as essentially he failed Bruce's parents as he puts it, or was it real?

 

[Broseph44]

Originally Posted by Spider-Who?
And unless you're a busty redhead with daddy issues, don't call me honey.

win t:

Hell yes haha

 

[socool]

I liked the way Robin was handled, it was a nice and creative way to handle the character.

I did too, for the most part. I do wish his real name was Tim Drake, not freaking Robin. Who's name is Robin, anyway...? Which reminds me, am I the only who was sorta wishing to see John Blake's version of "Batman"/Robin? I was really expecting to see that, but alas...

 

[Broseph44]

I did too, for the most part. I do wish his real name was Tim Drake, not freaking Robin. Who's name is Robin, anyway...? Which reminds me, am I the only who was sorta wishing to see John Blake's version of "Batman"/Robin? I was really expecting to see that, but alas...

Who's name is robin anyway? You act as if there's nobody alive actually named robin. How about Robin Williams? Tons of people named robin man.

 

[Doomed_hero]

just saw it and liked it over all but it did drag alot. I first off saw no reason for the 8 year gap and the first hour just felt very uneven to me.they spent to much time explaining things instead of just letting the plot mve smoothly. but it was a nice end to the trilogy if not a bit uneven. Hathaway did a very good job as Catwoman and Bane was well done. Saw some of the twist coming but they were still good. the character of Blake stole the show for me. Sad we wont get to see more of him.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

first off before i get started, i love Christopher Nolan's directing abilities. he's a master of the craft from every angle of the spectrum and is probably the best director of the mystery/suspense/crime drama we have at this current time. However, that being said, while i love his previous films, this one fell short to me.

where the last films focused greatly on Bruce Wayne and his villains, this film seemed to focus more on the citizens of gotham. too many new characters were added, some shined (hathoway and Coutilard ) though both severely underused, while other new additions were overused (Gordon levitt and modine ) the latter being a complete waste of screen time and not needed in this film. tom hardy and his take on bane were excellent but he suffered from one of the biggest mistakes in cinematic history. his voice. he pretty much sounded like the love child of darth vader and snively whiplash..... which was even more distracting to fans of the comic character... he was even completely impossible to understand at times....

the following are spoilers so read at your own risk. like most films of the genre the third film seems to have the most plot holes , and this one is no exception.
[spoilers]
-why exactly did Alfred wait 8 years to tell Bruce about Rachels decision while he let Bruce become a broken recluse who drove his company into the ground as well as costing millions there jobs in the process?? for me, this severely ruined the much loved Michael Cain Alfred pennyworth ...

- why couldn't the pit prisoners use the rope to completely climb out of the pit? im pretty sure it even had a rope and pully system....

-what exactly did bane have on selina to make her constantly fear for her life???

-where was the romantic tension between selina and Bruce? i love you Anne but... this was nowhere near the levels of Michelle pfifer and Michael keaton (i chalk this up to being another victim of too much going on in the film)

-how exactly did john Blake (should have just been called Tim drake ) know Bruce was batman the? special orphan powers?

-and how did a completely broke Bruce Wayne fly from the middle east to gotham , and still manage to the get into a completely guarded city? [/spoilers]

-also, while not a plot hole, couldn't they edit out the Chrysler and empire state buildings from this film?? all three movies feature three completely different gothams....

those all being said... as always nolan throws the audience a few curveballs and delivers solid performances and beautiful cinematic shots coupled with amazing scores. the reveal of talia one could see coming a mile away (if you know of her comic existence) but again, she was sadly underused . and the ending was a mix of perfect bookends and cheesey cliches.

for the ultra realistic world nolan has created (essentially putting fictional heroes and villains into our very real world, where as the marvel films place us into there world) i felt the film was a fitting ending to his universe. but as a batman film, i felt it fell a bit short and is my least favorite of the trilogy (and id probably still put batman returns ahead of it in terms of overall batman films. 6 or 7 out of ten stars.

i truly wanted to like this film more than this....

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Lol I just have one issue with the ending... Is Batman really alive??? Or was Alfred simply fantasying as he did in the beginning?? Because Alfred just smiles a little but then you see that look of despair on his face as he gets up from the seat...

Because you also have to remember Bats had to get the bomb 6 miles away from the city, meaning in order for him to survive he would have to be 6 miles away as well...

So was it simply Alfred just imagining that scene as essentially he failed Bruce's parents as he puts it, or was it real?

He's alive. If the fox scene with the auto pilot wasnt included it'd be ambiguous, but because of its inclusion id say its 99.9% there to show he survived

 

[LostSon88]

The auto-pilot was fixed by Bruce. Gordon was given a new Bat-signal. Martha Wayne's pearls were unaccounted for.

So yeah, Bruce and Selina are alive and in Paris.

 

[AnneFan]

The auto-pilot was fixed by Bruce. Gordon was given a new Bat-signal. Martha Wayne's pearls were unaccounted for.

So yeah, Bruce and Selina are alive and in Paris.

Yeah, its as simple as that.

 

[Longshot777]

Yes people does have different opinions.

I agree. Some people like me thinks The Dark Knight Rises is a GREAT FILM while others thinks Batman Forever is a great film.

I really love this movie, while other thinks it drags and choppy, I think the opposite.

Avengers is the best movie this year because The Dark Knight Rises is NOT a movie, It's a masterpiece.

I love all the 3 Nolan Batman films equally.

Do they really like the Dark Knight over this OR do they really like Heath Ledger over this?? Hmmmmmm

Lol I just have one issue with the ending... Is Batman really alive??? Or was Alfred simply fantasying as he did in the beginning?? Because Alfred just smiles a little but then you see that look of despair on his face as he gets up from the seat...

Because you also have to remember Bats had to get the bomb 6 miles away from the city, meaning in order for him to survive he would have to be 6 miles away as well...

So was it simply Alfred just imagining that scene as essentially he failed Bruce's parents as he puts it, or was it real?

Ahhhh, that is the question.

Some people say that this was predictable and Nolan telegraphed this...

...Of course he did!! He sets this up in the beginning to set up this beautiful happy ending. It's NOT suppose to be a TWIST or a BIG REVEAL.

It's like BOOM,,,Bruce finally living his life and letting go of his pain which Alfred has been wishing for him all this time.

And yes the ending of was that REAL OR Alfred's wishful thinking???

An Inception ending, did the Top fall OR did it stayed spinning???

To me, since the Lucious Fox scene was shown stating that Bruce Wayne did fix the Auto Pilot....i'm going with Bruce lived happily ever after with his SOUL MAte, Selina Kyle.

And yes Alfred still does not look happy, but he stated in the beginning that if he ever saw that for Bruce he will react like that with a simple nod to him BUTstill be happy inside for Bruce.

 

[Micromind]

Actually I am happy to see some Spidey fans here.