The Official Start/Release Date & Location Thread

[smooth3006]

Hobbit might not make it, they got legal problems

and the superman franchise doesn't?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, it would be totally stupid if WB released both movies in the same month, as The Hobbit is guaranteed to be huge, while the new Superman film isnt, one of them will have to be movie for both to be a success IMO.

 

[Motown Marvel]

ummm....shouldnt it be trouble for the hobbit to open the same month as superman? not the other way around?

 

[GinsterHead]

Given how long The Hobbit's been drawn out so far, I'd be incredibly surprised if it still comes out in time for Christmas 2012.

Seriously, weren't they supposed to have started filming by now?

 

[Alientraveller]

Comparing the grosses for the last Middle-earth and Superman films, no, it wouldn't be trouble for The Hobbit if it opened against Snyder and Nolan's reboot.

If it's any problem for Warners I can definitely see a March 2013 release for Superman, considering March is Snyder's lucky month.

 

[Alonsovich]

ummm....shouldnt it be trouble for the hobbit to open the same month as superman? not the other way around?

Take a look at the BO numbers of the previous installments of both franchises. Then ask yourself that question again.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Take a look at the BO numbers of the previous installments of both franchises. Then ask yourself that question again.

no, i get that. its a fair point. i guess im looking at the big picture and the full potential of superman. should superman fulfill that intention, and thats obviously the goal, then there will be no competition. the hobbit at it's very best could never come close to superman at his best.

 

[dark_b]

and the superman franchise doesn't?

and because of those problems they are doing this movie.

 

[Alonsovich]

no, i get that. its a fair point. i guess im looking at the big picture and the full potential of superman. should superman fulfill that intention, and thats obviously the goal, then there will be no competition. the hobbit at it's very best could never come close to superman at his best.

Superman hasn't been at his best since 1978, one good film and 4 mediocre/bad ones. The LOTR franchise is STILL at it's best with 3 great films and 2 promising ones. This reboot is the chance to change that dynamic. But the big LOTR type numbers shouldn't be expected by anyone until a second film.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I don't think they are similar enough films for it to be a problem.

 

[batlovescatDC]

^ Similarity, how great Superman is, how many comic book fans there are, and all these other things being argued aren't the issue at hand. LOTR is already an established, MAJORLY successful, and modernly known film franchise which has made unconscionable amounts of money and gathered a fan base to rival Superman's (to say the least). They ****ed up with Superman Returns because they made it a follow up to a franchise that has been dead for over 20 years. People don't know it and don't care about it... they want a modern take, a modern story, and a modern feel... SR failed to do that majorly. And lets keep in mind that it'll only be 7 yrs since SR came out when the reboot comes out. May seem like a long time but it'll still be in people's minds. Opening Superman up against The Hobbit would be an absolute suicide for the studio, plain and simple. I really think we'll be seeing Superman in 2013, probably in March 2013 to be exact.

 

[smooth3006]

and because of those problems they are doing this movie.

lets hope they succeed!

 

[Showtime]

you dont think hobbit opening same month as superman would be bad for supes box office...?

I don't think they will be in the same month, so I'm not worried about it.

I also didn't notice a date in the press release for Hobbit, did you?

Even if they were in the same month, it would be 3 weeks apart. Avatar and Alvin & The Chipmunks 2 didn't seem to have a problem with it.

 

[Excel]

I don't think they will be in the same month, so I'm not worried about it.

I also didn't notice a date in the press release for Hobbit, did you?

Even if they were in the same month, it would be 3 weeks apart. Avatar and Alvin & The Chipmunks 2 didn't seem to have a problem with it.

completely different audience demos. superman and hobbit, no so much

 

[Boom]

This depends. Right now, The Hobbit is scheduled for a February 2011 start-date for production. But that schedule is based a budget for a NZ shoot. If WB decides to shoot the films in a different country, they will have to draw up a new budget, which will most likely delay the shoot another several months. MGM is either going to take a prepackaged bankruptcy and be taken over by Spyglass, or it will merge with Lions Gate. Either way, that issue is pretty much irrelevant at this point. If The Hobbit leaves NZ, I could see The Hobbit Part One getting pushed back to 2013. It could be delayed even further if Jackson walks, as he said him directing was contingent on meeting a December 2012 release date for the first film.

But if The Hobbit stays in NZ, and production starts on schedule (Feb. 2011), then Superman will move. I guarantee it. No way in hell WB leaves these two films in the same month.

 

[Project862006]

same audience i guess lol

but totally different films

 

[Hole Shot]

Harry Potter often being released in November has never stopped studios from major releases the following December. Don't see why this would change anything.

 

[SatEL]

I have been hearing a lot of talk about Dec 2012 and in truth I am not liking it, I genuinely don’t think that’s a good slot to place a comic book movie , sure there are advantages of facing lesser competition e.g. Spiderman Revised., a movie like this should be treated as a blockbuster and be given the treatment a blockbuster deserves. Anyway would love to hear peoples opinions on their ideal released date and why they think its the best period to release the film.

 

[Wise]

Lord of the Rings movies came out in december and Bond usually does too.

 

[Project862006]

so did avatar the highest grossing film in history

 

[Jake Cassidy]

It's far away from TDKR and Avengers, which can help it. That's massive competition.

 

[SatEL]

Lord of the Rings movies came out in december and Bond usually does too.

I just think it will be grander having it around June-July period, then again its just a personal preference.

 

[DorkyFresh]

so did avatar the highest grossing film in history

i was about to say that. Avatar pretty much redefined the definition of a Blockbuster movie and it was released in December. if people like the trailer, they're gonna see the movie regardless of what time of year it is.

the Dark Knight Rises also comes out during the summer next year...so it would almost be suicide releasing 2 of their biggest movies side by side. not to mention, this production is quite behind the Dark Knight Rises....so it only makes sense that the release date is significantly behind DKR's release date.

 

[Micah12345]

I'd want it in summer if it was going to be the only DC movie that year, but we have batman in the summer, so I'm content with waiting until christmas. They're shooting for that avatar crowd. Besides, it wouldn't be finished before winter 2012 anyways.

 

[Dark Knight]

I think the ideal release date should be December 19th or the 21st of 2012.

Basically the weekend before XMas.

The Superman film will be the MAIN attraction without a doubt with this release date, especially if WB's chooses to just push release date of The Hobbit Part 1 to Summer 2013.

By doing this, they would be setting the Man Of Steel film up for three solid and successful #1 Weekends in row at the Box Office due to school being out for Winter Holiday break for high school teens and college tweens. Plus adults usually take two weeks off as well for their winter vacation or end of the year Holiday break.

Potentially of course, the film could be #1 the weekend of the 21st, 28th and the 4th most likely.

Then momentum would simply keep building after that IF the film is any good that is. Plus the rewatch value will most likely be high.