The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread - Part 1

[Kirmit]

I've seen it, very good movie, my 2nd favourite marvel movie but I do have one complaint and that's that it felt rushed, asif everything happened in a very short timeframe but other than that 9/10.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't think we should worry about the helmet. It's a cosmetic thing that is fine when taken away but can easily be featured more heavily in future films now that people are familiar with Thor as a character. It's essentially the same way Marvel has handled Cap. We're getting a new Cap costume in Avengers and i'm sure it will look more like the 616 costume too.

 

[kedrell]

The problem for Cap and GL is that they don't have much breathing room to gain an audience. I'd give Cap the edge because there aren't to many superhero WWII set films. Rocketeer, is about the only one to my knowledge. GL might seem a little to similar to Thor, i.e. extra terrestrial world, a magic object that gives them power, etc., on the other hand GL probably has one of the largest cult followings of any DC character which could easily fuel it. I don't get a real read on how it's going to do.

Well I was more talking about getting the films to work from a quality/good decisions perspective rather than just the box office. Yeah, both GL & Cap are a bit more squeezed in that regard. Even X-M:FC is kinda squeezed. Thor's the only superhero film this summer with some real breathing room at the box office.

 

[kedrell]

I don't think we should worry about the helmet. It's a cosmetic thing that is fine when taken away but can easily be featured more heavily in future films now that people are familiar with Thor as a character. It's essentially the same way Marvel has handled Cap. We're getting a new Cap costume in Avengers and i'm sure it will look more like the 616 costume too.

I agree.

 

[elsewhere]

7/10

I thought the beginning in Asgard was fantastic, but once Thor is banished to Earth, the film progressively begins to fall apart which ultimately hurts it in the final act. Contrary to what some people have said, Thor isn't as good as Iron Man in my opinion. I hope Captain America fairs better.

 

[Vartha]

I don't think we should worry about the helmet. It's a cosmetic thing that is fine when taken away but can easily be featured more heavily in future films now that people are familiar with Thor as a character. It's essentially the same way Marvel has handled Cap. We're getting a new Cap costume in Avengers and i'm sure it will look more like the 616 costume too.

heh I can hear the complaining already. lol

 

[kedrell]

I've seen it, very good movie, my 2nd favourite marvel movie but I do have one complaint and that's that it felt rushed, asif everything happened in a very short timeframe but other than that 9/10.

Well making Thor a viable property comes first(rule #1: Do no harm) but if that happens then some time in the future I'd really like the classic Lee/Kirby story told in full in a film, rather than the abdriged version we're getting in this film. That story gives Thor a whole human lifetime to learn the error of his ways and find humility.

 

[Figs]

For those who have seen Thor already, how would good is the CGI? I ask because in Devin's review he mentions it can be pretty bad, during the Frost Giant fight at least.

Then again, he's also the one who kind of downplayed how great the effects in Avatar were. So he might just be a nitpicker.

 

[The Bruce]

Why have we never seen Don Blake pre college/University? In the comics he just popped up in his youth without memory. Did Odin just make him appear as a young adult or does the Blake persona have a mortal family/childhood?

It would be epic if they made the Story of normal Don blake finding out he's the god of thunder. They could have made a Fantasy Epic!

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I thought the effects were fine. Destroyer armor looks more than fine though, it looks simply amazing, aesthetically and in design.

 

[kedrell]

Why have we never seen Don Blake pre collage/University? In the comics he just popped up in his youth without memory. Did Odin just make him appear as a young adult or does the Blake persona have a mortal family/childhood?

It's would be epic if they made the Story of normal Don blake finding out he's the god of thunder. They could have made a Fantasy Epic!

They still can make that(eventually) but for right now Thor's gotta prove himself a viable commodity as a movie. I don't blame them for playing it a bit safe in this sense. The worst thing that could've happened was that the movie would bomb and you'd never get any more Thor movies.

 

[Gamma Burst]

For those who have seen Thor already, how would good is the CGI? I ask because in Devin's review he mentions it can be pretty bad, during the Frost Giant fight at least.

Then again, he's also the one who kind of downplayed how great the effects in Avatar were. So he might just be a nitpicker.

Don't worry, Digital Domain did a pretty good job here.

 

[Chewy]

Couple more top critics from RT

EW - A-
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20486919,00.html
Orlando Sentinel - 3/4
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/2011/05/movie-review-thor.html
Arizona Central - 4/5
http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/movies/articles/2011/05/04/20110504thor-review-goodykoontz.html

 

[Vartha]

Why have we never seen Don Blake pre collage/University? In the comics he just popped up in his youth without memory. Did Odin just make him appear as a young adult or does the Blake persona have a mortal family/childhood?

It's would be epic if they made the Story of normal Don blake finding out he's the god of thunder. They could have made a Fantasy Epic!

Don Blake is a COPY of Kieth Kincade. Technically Don wasn't BORN and has no childhood. Tho he IS human Odin wouldn't just wipe him out of exsitance, so when Thor didn't need that part of Blake for humility, Odin cast a spell to make everyone forget Blake, and stuck Blake in the Void.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Loved the movie, 10/10... only downside is it's not long enough! :P

3D is... decent, you won't be missing out on anything by not watching it in 3D.

 

[kedrell]

Don Blake is a COPY of Kieth Kincade. Technically Don wasn't BORN and has no childhood. Tho he IS human Odin wouldn't just wipe him out of exsitance, so when Thor didn't need that part of Blake for humility, Odin cast a spell to make everyone forget Blake, and stuck Blake in the Void.

Why go to all that trouble? I always thought Odin just stripped Thor of all his memories, changed him into a mortal human infant and put him on Earth so he could experience being human(and thus getting perspective) first hand. He lives his life knowing only his existence as Donald Blake before getting his godhood back.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Couple more top critics from RT

EW - A-
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20486919,00.html
Orlando Sentinel - 3/4
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/2011/05/movie-review-thor.html
Arizona Central - 4/5
http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/movies/articles/2011/05/04/20110504thor-review-goodykoontz.html

Keep them coming, Chewy.t:

 

[jacobed]

One legitimate complaint that could be levied against this movie is that the Odinsleep is handled in a really jarring way. They mention the term a few scenes after it happens but never really explain it. As a fan of the comics who read the script I understood it but none of the people I saw it with got why he just collapsed and passed out on the steps. I suspect a line or two that better explained it got left on the cutting room floor.

I have no idea about anything of the comics but even I understood the Odinsleep. When he first collapses, I thought he was dying but then like the next scene I believe it was Loki who talks about what is happening and it all made sense just fine. A little more explanation would have been good though.

I don't ever remember laughing during the Spider-Man movies when I suppose to, I definitely laughed at inappropriate times but thats because the whole trilogy is cheesy. Thor's humor worked for me, it all happens just naturally. None of it was over the top even the fish out of the water humor was handled very well especially when that would be the easiest to go overboard with. The whole facebook part had me laughing the most not so much because of the line but the smile that Thor makes while she is taking the picture was hilarious.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Speaking of Donald Blake, i actually think that whole story concept would have worked fine for the film, if not made it more interesting.

 

[kedrell]

Speaking of Donald Blake, i actually think that whole story concept would have worked fine for the film, if not made it more interesting.

Yeah, but likely more risky.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I actually don't think so. See, I never realised Odin created Blake. That would work amazingly well from a dramatic point of view. Seeing Jane Foster react to the man she loves, or is in a troubled relationship with, evidently go crazy, thinking he's a God. That could have been equally interesting.

 

[kedrell]

I actually don't think so. See, I never realised Odin created Blake. That would work amazingly well from a dramatic point of view. Seeing Jane Foster react to the man she loves, or is in a troubled relationship with, evidently go crazy, thinking he's a God. That could have been equally interesting.

I didn't say that I don't think it could work but the whole integration of the Asgard & earth parts would become very dicey, especially for the character's introductory film. This isn't like Superman, who doesn't have much of a past life(on Krypton) to explain. Thor essentially has two backstories. Thor'd need to be something like a 3 hour movie to do it all justice and there's no way they'd risk that on a property that hasn't even proven itself yet.

But hopefully in the fullness of time, we'll get that grandiose epic.

 

[Vartha]

Why go to all that trouble? I always thought Odin just stripped Thor of all his memories, changed him into a mortal human infant and put him on Earth so he could experience being human(and thus getting perspective) first hand. He lives his life knowing only his existence as Donald Blake before getting his godhood back.

Well he did strip Thor of his memories he just stuck Thor into the body He created of Don. See Odin thought it would teach Thor humility faster if he didn't know he was a god.
By the way Keith wasn't lame, and Jane married Keith after Blake was wiped out of her memory and stuck in the void.

After awhile without Blake being merged with Thor, He got Warrior's madness. The humanity keeps Thor Anchored. It was also discovered later in Volume 2 after he was merged with Jake Olsen that the Humanity also helps Thor understand the mortal way of thinking which was covered all through the Reigning Arcs in Vol 2.

 

[Vartha]

I actually don't think so. See, I never realised Odin created Blake. That would work amazingly well from a dramatic point of view. Seeing Jane Foster react to the man she loves, or is in a troubled relationship with, evidently go crazy, thinking he's a God. That could have been equally interesting.

Well like I said there is a REAL Blake but his name is Keith Kincade. Odin just Duplicated Keith and made the Copy (Blake) lame.

 

[kedrell]

Well he did strip Thor of his memories he just stuck Thor into the body He created of Don. See Odin thought it would teach Thor humility faster if he didn't know he was a god.
By the way Keith wasn't lame, and Jane married Keith after Blake was wiped out of her memory and stuck in the void.

After awhile without Blake being merged with Thor, He got Warrior's madness. The humanity keeps Thor Anchored. It was also discovered later in Volume 2 after he was merged with Jake Olsen that the Humanity also helps Thor understand the mortal way of thinking which was covered all through the Reigning Arcs in Vol 2.

I'm confused now. Donald Blake ISN'T just a false persona of Thor's that he labored under for years but is actually his own person? That's what I meant when I said why go to such trouble? Why have a need to stick him in the void?