The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread - Part 2

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Crap, the guy who played Loki. I forgot his name. I fixed it now though.
 
I SEE SPIDEY: I don't want to start a fight/argument, but your post is a perfect example of trying to fit/quantify something as unpredictable as love into a predictable formula/'box'. Thor's behavior does suggest that he fell for Jane extremely hard despite only knowing her for a short time, but that doesn't automatically mean that he was portrayed in an unrealistic manner, because, quite frankly, stuff like that happens all the time.
This thread is about discussion. I like talking about this stuff provided people don't insult me or go off topic just to bash a movie that I like. I don't even know what romantic love feels like to be quite honest with you but I do know don't believe in love at first sight. Romances are always sped up in movies, I have no problem with that but the one in Thor was just to short IMHO. It was too short to have me feeling bad that he would miss her at the end or that he would even think twice about destroying that rainbow bridge just because of her. The chemistry wasn't bad between Portman and Hemsworth but it wasn't good enough for me to suspend my disbelief.

He was more hurt about that whole Loki thing. He missed Jane but he wasn't overboard upset about it, just sad he couldn't see her again. Kind of like when an individual you like stands you up for a third date. It's not going to kill you but it's a bummer.
I know he was hurt about the Loki thing but he seemed to be pretty damn hurt about about Jane too and that just didn't work for me.
 
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just got back wow what a great movie yes i will say it this was better than iron man

this film was so much fun
 
Just saw the movie. Asgard was beautiful. The frost giant scenes were a tad choppy cuz of the 3d and they generally werent long at all. The earth scenes were actually my favorite part. All of the actors did a wonderful job. Especially Tom Hiddleston and Chris Hemsworth. They knocked it outta the park. Loki was the best comic book movie villain ive ever seen. Heck i even liked him more than the joker, he's that good. I really thought the destroyer fight scene would be disappointing, but it really wasnt. I loved seeing thor get his power back and take it out. I wanted to stand up and cheer. The last 20 minutes or so was the best part of the film imo. The movie was also very funny without seeming like a comedy or becoming stupid, i especially loved the part with the warriors 3 and sif coming into town. All in all, Great movie! Go see it! 4.9/5! :p
 
I SEE SPIDEY: I wasn't trying to insult you or dismiss your opinion; I was simply pointing out that it was a perfect example of what I was talking about. If I did come across as insulting and dismissive, I apologize.

BTW, love at first sight is in fact a real phenomenon, and there are plenty of instances out there that prove it. That's not to say that you have to accept that it's real, though, or believe that it happens.
 
A lot of their stuff got cut. They were very funny in the script.

More comedic relieves? Why couldn't they make something good with them instead?

I mean, I didn't mind them, they were good enough. But no, they didn't do much. More bad jokes wouldn't have solved anyhting.


Same here. Heck, I think the Superman II: Richard Donner Cut version got a higher rating than what Thor has on RT.

Movies don't get better along with the rottentomatoes rating. But hey, SII was a better movie.





What bothers me about the negative reviews is how these people refuse to see the gifts of Hemsworth and Hiddleston. In fact nearly everyone turns in a great performance in this film.

Loki's performance was something good about Thor, I've said it many times. There was a good story behind it and the actor was good. I'd say the same about Odin. Sometimes critics just focus on what defined the movie for them.

I dare say Hiddlestons performance was at least on par with Ledger's as Joker, or at the very least Nicholson's....no he was infact better than Nicholson.

Man. He wasn't that good. It's kinda obvious.

But Loki - or any other villiain - doesn't have to be necessarily compared to any Joker incarnation. It's a completely different kind of villiain.

Even the background performances from Russo, Stevenson, Asano, Dallas and Alexander were excellent.

I agree.

This was by far the most difficult CBM to make, with the only close 2nd being the original Superman. But while Superman was able to have three individual segments of Krypton, the farm scenes and Metropolis, Thor had to seemlessly merge Asgard with the Earth scenes. It handled it marvelously (no pun intended).

I don't see why it's so difficult. I mean other than the fact that every superhero movie is difficult to make. Batman was quite a risk back in 1989 when STM was the only possible standard. Today, Thor has many other Marvel movies to be based on. And it was. Thor the movie is completely shaped after the Marvel movie style. Plus, being Thor the main character you have the whole Nordic mythology to base this on if you want.

People saying this movie "played it safe" don't have a clue what they're talking about. This could have been a total joke, instead it will be one of the most memorous films of 2011, and one of the top 5 CBM's of all time.

I'm not sure how official this prediction is. It's certain that it'll make enough to have a sequel but I don't see Oscars and whatnot being given to Thor. And it doesn't have to be that way.
 
Why would Thor miss her so much or care when she was threatened by Loki if it was only a crush?

Are you suggesting he would need have already fallen for her in order to value her life in that way? I know how I felt about my wife when I had only known her for a couple of days. Thor's reaction seemed normal enough to me in that context.
 
out of curiosity does anybody know the name of the track that plays during the first part of the credits? (before foo fighters)

it doesn't seem to be on the score, it should come right after "can you see jane?" but doesn't seem like it or maybe i'm just hearing things wrong and its been rearranged
 
I SEE SPIDEY: I wasn't trying to insult you or dismiss your opinion; I was simply pointing out that it was a perfect example of what I was talking about. If I did come across as insulting and dismissive, I apologize.

BTW, love at first sight is in fact a real phenomenon, and there are plenty of instances out there that prove it. That's not to say that you have to accept that it's real, though, or believe that it happens.
You know I talked to this guy at the library once and he was nice enough and I assumed he was into me because he always wanted to talk to me and touch me everytime he saw me at the library. He even used the cheesy "do I know you?" one liner and pretended to forget my name. I didn't even flirt with him, unless talking about my favorite Superhero's is some covert way of flirting with a guy:huh: but he seemed into me anyhow. What I'm saying is he was obviously attracted to me, I believe that you can have a strong attraction to someone but love at first sight? Nah, unless it happens to me in the future.

I don't believe he would have thrown himself infront of a bus to protect me or anything.
 
Thor was great. I saw it twice, with a pretty wide range of people who all have different tastes and expectations as to what makes a movie 'good', and each and every one of them enjoyed it.
Definitely a crowd pleaser, and definitely loyal to the comics.
I thought those two were mutually exclusive and could never be achieved by Thor, a character with little to no mainstream recognition, but they did it and they did it quite well.
That is something I can't get over;
Someone made a Thor movie.
And did a damn good job.
Bravo to all involved. A huge success in my book.
 
I read someone's take elsewhere who felt that it wasn't so much love at first sight as it was a mutual attraction that really took off but wasn't allowed to develop properly due to outside events, so like at the end Thor isn't mopey because he's cut off from his one true love so much as just confused and frustrated at being unable to further explore a very promising but thus far short-lived romance.

If that makes any sense. I just reread it and it kind of doesn't but w/e. Didn't get to see the movie today so I dunno if it works.
 
Loki's performance was something good about Thor, I've said it many times. There was a good story behind it and the actor was good. I'd say the same about Odin. Sometimes critics just focus on what defined the movie for them.

fair enough



Man. He wasn't that good. It's kinda obvious.

How is it obvious? First off Ledger was a well established actor by the time TDK came out. Hiddleston is 20 years old, and his first major roll he's put up with Sir Anthony Hopkins, alot of people would have melted under that situation. In fact he even joked with Hemsworth, "how do you follow up to that?" referring to a scene with Hopkins where he banishes Thor, to which Hemsworth replied facetiously, "quit, go home."

But Loki - or any other villiain - doesn't have to be necessarily compared to any Joker incarnation. It's a completely different kind of villiain.

Yes, I'm only comparing the fact that Hiddleston nailed one of the top 3 Marvel villians as Heath did to Joker. But it's like telling a Mac user you actually like your PC. It's not within their comprehension that you might actually prefer microsoft over the mighty blue Apple.


I don't see why it's so difficult. I mean other than the fact that every superhero movie is difficult to make. Batman was quite a risk back in 1989 when STM was the only possible standard. Today, Thor has many other Marvel movies to be based on. And it was. Thor the movie is completely shaped after the Marvel movie style. Plus, being Thor the main character you have the whole Nordic mythology to base this on if you want.

Actually it wasn't shaped after the Marvel movie style. This movie in scope was bigger than anything they'd done before. It's Lord of the Rings, meets Star Wars, meets Hamlet.

I said it before, this is the movie Fantastic Four should have been and wasn't. Yeah they had the whole Nordic mythology, but they decided to look at what Jack Kirby, Larry Lieber and Stan Lee actually wrote, and thank goodness they did.
 
I read someone's take elsewhere who felt that it wasn't so much love at first sight as it was a mutual attraction that really took off but wasn't allowed to develop properly due to outside events, so like at the end Thor isn't mopey because he's cut off from his one true love so much as just confused and frustrated at being unable to further explore a very promising but thus far short-lived romance.

If that makes any sense. I just reread it and it kind of doesn't but w/e. Didn't get to see the movie today so I dunno if it works.
That's actually a really good and succinct description. And he wasn't really mopey about it, Sif just described him as being mopey about it. He was mopey about his brother's downward spiral.
 
^ What Spider-Fan said.

Getting back on topic...

Anyone really like the scene when Loki visited Thor at the SHIELD base and lied to him about Odin? That may have been the best piece of Hemsworth's performance. :up:

Word, when he said, "Can I come up?" I instinctively felt like chuckling but once it saturated a second, I actually felt saddened for Thor from the child-like way Hemms delivered the line.
 
That's actually a really good and succinct description. And he wasn't really mopey about it, Sif just described him as being mopey about it. He was mopey about his brother's downward spiral.

I didn't really mean mopey, I just wasn't sure if I could manage spelling despondent. Maybe dejected is a better word.
 
That's exactly what I'm saying. They have validity behind their opinion, with cinematic perspective.

Not some overzealous fan boys. They have no investment one way or another, so they have an un-biased looking glass on a film, as opposed to a comic book fan who of course with all due right will be willing to say or do anything to make the film seem as good as possible.

everyone is a fan of something.
if anything they probably have the most investment.

as for this debate as to the best performance by a marvel villain(and I assume this is the entire marvel roster and not just this new studios)

that would most definitely have to be stephen dorf.
I also liked the luke goss in hell boy 2(marvel?)

but then again fame does equal accliam.
 
Just saw it again today. As far as I'm concerned the movie never gave the idea that they were full on in love. It was the beginning stages working up to that. It even says at the end that he really misses his brother, so his emotions and that look of longing at the end wasn't entirely because of Portman's character.

As for the action. My only two complaints was that the fight with Thor and Destroyer could have been a tad bit longer, but looking at the entire action scene with the Destroyer and the Warriors Three/Sif then Thor as a whole it was still enjoyable.

The other complaint about the action was that it was edited a bit too fast at times, like the battle with the Frost Giants. The battle itself in regards to showing off how badass and cocky Thor was, was fantastic. It's just that sometimes things went a bit too fast, mainly when the Warriors Three were fighting. As well as the opening fight with Odin.

I still love the movie, but there is room for improvement with a sequel.
 
I think I'd ultimately say they had an immediate attraction to each other and spent a little time with each other and enjoyed themselves. But their time together was cut short and they were both a bit bummed that they couldn't fully explore their relationship. Beyond that they didn't seem overly mopey and it's not the 40's, sometimes people kiss each other once :cwink:

It was just a nice fun believable relationship between beings from two different worlds; that they weren't implied to be "soul mates" after only a few days was refreshing to me, but I suppose I am letting my own experiences influence my opinion.
 
I bought the relationship because of the chemistry between the two actors. So often in film it's the things that are not said on screen but the actors can show through non-verbal communication.

Thor promised he'd return and now he can't because he had to sacrifice what might have been with Jane, to save the Jotuns. There was somewhat of a "love at first sight" aspect to it. For Thor, this was someone who taught him how to think of others rather than himself. For Jane, Thor was somone that came into her life as a result of something she'd been searching for all her life.

Yeah the movie does not explain every last little detail, but personally I like movies where they respect the intelligence of the viewer, to be able to figure out things that are implied, but not explicitly shown.
 
Went to see Thor in 3D with my wife today, and since I don't have time to write an elaborate review right now, I just want to say that the movie met my expectation and more. It's a great movie and one that I'd love to watch again.

9.0 out of 10.
 
Saw it on Saturday night. I don't have much to say about it except that I really enjoyed it and it totally exceeded my expectations. As far as quality is concerned, I wouldn't put this up there with the likes of Spider-Man 2, Iron Man, and The Dark Knight, but it's still a dang good movie. :)
 
Word, when he said, "Can I come up?" I instinctively felt like chuckling but once it saturated a second, I actually felt saddened for Thor from the child-like way Hemms delivered the line.

"Can I come home" :cwink:
 
Truth: Thor is even better on the 2nd viewing!
 
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