The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread - Part 2

[bullets]

I saw it a second time and was able to pay more attention to Hiddleton's nuanced performance as Loki. His reaction to Odin's secrecy over his past was a highlight. Looking forward to more of him in Avengers

I SEE SPIDEY: I don't want to start a fight/argument, but your post is a perfect example of trying to fit/quantify something as unpredictable as love into a predictable formula/'box'. Thor's behavior does suggest that he fell for Jane extremely hard despite only knowing her for a short time, but that doesn't automatically mean that he was portrayed in an unrealistic manner, because, quite frankly, stuff like that happens all the time.

I think it's easy to believe because mutual attraction is a common thing and if you like their personality it enforces it ten fold. It's happened in my life.

Anyone really like the scene when Loki visited Thor at the SHIELD base and lied to him about Odin? That may have been the best piece of Hemsworth's performance.

Great scene. Also I like the follow up with Loki trying to retrieve Mjolnir.

 

[WildcatNC]

You know I talked to this guy at the library once and he was nice enough and I assumed he was into me because he always wanted to talk to me and touch me everytime he saw me at the library. He even used the cheesy "do I know you?" one liner and pretended to forget my name. I didn't even flirt with him, unless talking about my favorite Superhero's is some covert way of flirting with a guy but he seemed into me anyhow. What I'm saying is he was obviously attracted to me, I believe that you can have a strong attraction to someone but love at first sight? Nah, unless it happens to me in the future.

I don't believe he would have thrown himself infront of a bus to protect me or anything.

It happens but its not common. It happened to me once. I knew the minute I saw her. It was much more than lust as well as I was quite familiar with that as well. When the conditions are right it just manifests, like a flame.

They were more like a summer whirlwind romance but then you have to go back after summer but you can't stop thinking about them. You really want to see them again. Thats how I think about it.

 

[Hoblin]

I've seen it twice now, with at least one more viewing to come. I liked it even better on the second viewing, especially Tom Hiddleston's performace. I don't know how, but it seemed to be even better in the second viewing. I think it was because I was just a little calmer and not freaking out about actually seeing this comic on the big screen.

 

[itchyscratch]

They were more like a summer whirlwind romance but then you have to go back after summer but you can't stop thinking about them. You really want to see them again. Thats how I think about it.

The attraction between Thor and Jane was nothing compared to the attraction between Thor and his hammer. The lusty look he gave the hammer when he finally saw it in the SHIELD complex was brilliant. Now THAT was love!

 

[flickchick85]

I think I'd ultimately say they had an immediate attraction to each other and spent a little time with each other and enjoyed themselves. But their time together was cut short and they were both a bit bummed that they couldn't fully explore their relationship. Beyond that they didn't seem overly mopey and it's not the 40's, sometimes people kiss each other once

It was just a nice fun believable relationship between beings from two different worlds; that they weren't implied to be "soul mates" after only a few days was refreshing to me, but I suppose I am letting my own experiences influence my opinion.

ITA. I didn't feel that they were even trying to sell the Thor/Jane relationship as "love." She just came in and played an important part in the pivotal moment of his life, so of course she means something to him. And on the flip side, he was the walking embodiment of the greatest discovery/achievement of her life, and was gonna show her even more, so of course she wanted to see him again. They were attracted to each other, made a connection, and had hopes for romantic prospects. Nothing more. A kiss =/= love. It seemed to me that this kiss = I like you, you're hot, we may never see each other again, let's make out just in case.

I fully expect Thor and Jane to move on to other people in future installments.

 

[The Morningstar]

I'm pretty confident Sif's feelings for Thor will be explored in the sequel.

It's pretty clear she has a thing for him. But it's not all sappy and yearning for him. Just a couple of glances towards him key you in.

 

[Herolee10]

lol..for the time being, I'm a fan of the Jane and Thor relationship in the film, but I'm curious as to what direction they'll go with it in the sequels; I mean will they Donnerize it by having them end up as a tragic couple and thus opening the door for Thor and Sif?

Obviously, if the franchise is to end with Thor and Sif being a couple then things will have to pick up between them in the sequel as well.

In any case, like Jaime pointed out in Jimmy Kimmel, I think the major reason why Jane and Thor's relationship got the highlight that it did over any Thor-Sif bonding was due to how more contemporary or modern it was to go with them instead of two Asgardians being in love for the sake of putting more importance in Thor's journey towards humility during his time on Earth.

 

[BigThor]

lol..for the time being, I'm a fan of the Jane and Thor relationship in the film, but I'm curious as to what direction they'll go with it in the sequels; I mean will they Donnerize it by having them end up as a tragic couple and thus opening the door for Thor and Sif?

Obviously, if the franchise is to end with Thor and Sif being a couple then things will have to pick up between them in the sequel as well.

In any case, like Jaime pointed out in Jimmy Kimmel, I think the major reason why Jane and Thor's relationship got the highlight that it did over any Thor-Sif bonding was due to how more contemporary or modern it was to go with them instead of two Asgardians being in love for the sake of putting more importance in Thor's journey towards humility during his time on Earth.

Definately, like Morningstar said, I'm sure Thor and Sif's relationship is going to be explored in Thor 2.

 

[Slushy]

Thor's awesome and I've always felt his character was underrated as IMO he never really got the attention he deserved since he would wind up being lost in the shuffle of all the Marvel Superheroes looming about.

However, I couldn't see Thor being able to carry his own movie as I didn't think he was all that popular (funny enough, I had the same thought about Iron Man before its release), but I got to give it to Marvel Studios. I went into the theater the other night expecting a mediocre film and I was blown away by what I saw. The theater room was packed too!

Lots of action, great acting, plenty of comedy (Thor being a stranger in a strange land), fantastic storytelling (Loki was such a piece of sh** and yet I winded up feeling sorry for the guy!) and wonderful special effects, particularly the world of Asgard.

And never in a million years did I think I would ever see the legendary Anthony Hopkins in a comic book movie yet even at his current age, he could still get a viewer's undivided attention with the slightest touch of hand or the whisper of a name.

My only minor complaints are Thor should've worn his helmet more and I was so used to seeing Thor clean shaven in the comic books, cartoons, and the videogames that it was weird to see him with a beard in the movie! Can't wait for Captain America now!

 

[Nathan]

I'm glad he got the beard. Makes him look more like a warrior and less like Fabio.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

He can have that opinion. Sorry if this offends you.

I felt it was in the same ballpark, also.

Agreed!

 

[Herolee10]

After having watched the film myself quite a few times by now, in regards to the whole debate/issue as to the believability regarding Thor's change in demeanor in the timespan of 2 days, I found it BELIEVABLE on screen.

I mean he had TWO MAJOR turning points in his life within a matter of hours.

1. He failed to lift up his own hammer, and given that he must have spent a lifetime being its master/wielder, it really made it evident on how defeated Thor felt from his failure.

2. Thor was tricked into believing that his actions had resulted in his father dying and his own mother disowning him, and when you add the stress of believing that your actions will start another war that will claim many innocent lives in the process, that's a lot to take in at once.

I mean overall, I don't think Thor was a bad person to begin with, but just misguided and once he got hit with the realization that he wasn't the great hero that he thought he was along with experiencing the feeling the consequences that his actions may have brought to all of his loved ones, that's enough imho to change a man in his position.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I'm pretty confident Sif's feelings for Thor will be explored in the sequel.

It's pretty clear she has a thing for him. But it's not all sappy and yearning for him. Just a couple of glances towards him key you in.

She just seemed like a childhood friend to me. I mean i didnt see her get jealous of Portman or anything. I think they wont use her as a love interest because Portman has that role in his life. In any case, Jaime was very cute as Sif.

Some things i wanted to discuss:

- The movie feels too safe.
I agree. With all these movies gunning for the Avengers, and needing to establish their own fanbase at the same time, they didnt have room for error. So its ok that they played it safe, I'm glad its a solid movie that the general audience loves.

- I needed more Loki and Thor time before Thor's coronation. As Loki went on to betray him i didnt know, did he hate his brother since day one, did he envy him, what was the deal between those two? Since coronation Loki looks like a man with a sinister plan, and what did we get before that? Just the kid Loki and Thor scene. I can feel for Thor missing his brother in the end, but i just wanted to see their brotherly love before all this. Its more hinted at than shown.

- Thor - Portman romance.
Well Thor only stayed for 2-3 days on earth so its nothing more than a crush at this point. Still, havent you been in love at first sight before? I'm guessing this will evolve into love in the sequel. The romance was fine, the biggest problem with his short stay on earth is that it affected how fast he matured. We have the reasons, but a man just doesnt change in 2 days no matter what life throws at him. But hey, New Mexico flannel-land wasnt exactly exciting as say... Bruce's training in Begins so they wanted to get over it kinda fast and get back to the spectacle.

 

[Matt.S99]

Saw this over the weekend and I thought it was very good. My father really loved it. I thought(especially compared to IM) it had a really well done story and the way they handled Thor and Loki's relationship was perfect. He is going to be an awesome villian in the Avengers.

8.5-9/10

 

[The Morningstar]

You didn't notice the way Sif looked at Thor at the end as he walked past the dining table?

 

[Mr. Earle]

No. Damnit, i missed that.

 

[J.Howlett]

Yeah, the Sif feelings were hinted at strongly in the last act. It's subtle, but it's there.

Earle, as your comment about the film feeling safe, it's my main issues with the Marvel Studios' films at this point. Only Iron Man doesn't feel as safe as the others, mainly because of the subtext within the film. It's a fun film but it feels like a film made by grown ups. It doesn't deal with it fully but it does deal with some adult issues as subtext.

The Incredible Hulk was ridiculously safe (I understand why, even if I don't like it) and yet it could've been saved had Marvel gone with the Lettetier and Norton edit instead of the one we got. Iron Man 2's goofy and a victim of poor planning and Marvel's interference.

Thor's interesting because I totally understand why it needed to be safe and cut corners during the Earth section, yet, they could've easily done the Asgard stuff in a more grand fashion now that we've all seen what everyone did with it. Thor's a film where you can clearly see an alternate version that's more grand, more epic in scale, even if this first outing by Thor is probably the right size for his introductory film.

Still, because this film feels more or less like a complete Thor film (while still leading to the Avengers), I think they need to let it all hang out in the sequel. They have this great cast. We're use to the uniqueness of the Nine Realms. They need to go for broke in the sequel, because I think Thor could be one of the most interesting comic book adaptations. This and Green Lantern could easily separate themselves from the rest of the pack because of how cosmic both can get....and this genre needs that.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Damn it. How did i miss it?

So Thor is a baller, girls are all over him!

 

[The Morningstar]

haha Thor is indeed a mack.

And yea Howlett. the Thor sequel needs to be more full on. Now that the intro to the character is out the way they can delve into his mythos more.

I think the same will happen with Iron Man 3 actually.

 

[J.Howlett]

Well, Thor missed it too.

 

[The Morningstar]

I think Alexander has got overlooked in all honesty. Yea she didn't really have much to work with, but I think she did very well. Showed that Sif has feelings for Thor, but didn't let that become what the character is about, which could have been all too easy. She was a warrior first and foremost.

 

[J.Howlett]

Morningstar,

First off, if we are to get a Thor trilogy, I think because of the ending, the final image we should see in the last Thor film is Thor being crowned king. The next two films need to be the continued character arc of Thor, learning what it means to be King.

The second aspect I think could be really interesting is his feelings for Jane and his budding feelings for Sif. And what I think could make that triangle unique is the fact that the ladies aren't at each others throats...that both clearly see why Thor would choose one over the other and that there would be no animosity between them.

In the end, I honestly don't know who I would want to be Thor's queen but I think it would be interesting as hell to develop this love triangle.

And, we definitely need to see Jane in Asgard at some point. I think that's very, very important.

Apart of me really, really wishes the Avengers wasn't coming together because we wouldn't have to deal with making the connections between the films. As much as SHIELD was more organic in the film than Iron Man 2, it still hurt the film, in terms of building the relationship more for Thor and Jane.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea i'm usually not one for love triangles. But I think the Thor/Sif/Jane one could work. Mainly because both of the girls are just likable and both have appealing traits, but are different enough from each other.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Well, Thor missed it too.

Morningstar,

First off, if we are to get a Thor trilogy, I think because of the ending, the final image we should see in the last Thor film is Thor being crowned king. The next two films need to be the continued character arc of Thor, learning what it means to be King.

I agree. Has he ever been king in the comics?

The second aspect I think could be really interesting is his feelings for Jane and his budding feelings for Sif. And what I think could make that triangle unique is the fact that the ladies aren't at each others throats...that both clearly see why Thor would choose one over the other and that there would be no animosity between them.

That would be nice to see, but i'll still feel bad for them because one of them is bound to lose.

And, we definitely need to see Jane in Asgard at some point. I think that's very, very important.

Agreed.

Apart of me really, really wishes the Avengers wasn't coming together because we wouldn't have to deal with making the connections between the films. As much as SHIELD was more organic in the film than Iron Man 2, it still hurt the film, in terms of building the relationship more for Thor and Jane.

Well how much more time could they have? It would feel like a chickflick. I for one am glad for Shield in this because it gave us some "superheroness" in flannel city and also provided us with that action scene where Thor breaks into their facility. I think Shield worked great in this, and hey its not just about the Avengers. The Marvel Universe works a lot more tightly than the DC one, with Shield and heroes popping in each other's books all the time. I mean its only natural that someone would investigate these events in the same way that the police were chasing Batman in Nolan's movies.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yes Thor has been in King in the comics. Quite recently too when Odin was gone. But he passed the crown on to Balder.