Days of Future Past The Official X-Men: First Class Box Office Discussion Thread!

[JP]

This Is why I have been saying It Is looking more and More like Fox will not do a First Class sequel and focus on getting X4 made after The Wolverine.

I certainly Hope First Class hits 100 million by Monday But If It has a Thor and Hangover level 60 percent dropoff against Super 8 It becomes tougher.

Fox defently Isn't going to quit making X-Men films but at this point getting Hugh kachman and other past X-Men films vets back In a film Is looking to be the better bet than First Class sequel.

Thor had a less than 50% drop off..

 

[Figs]

Not terrible. Just under-performing.

Do you know if studios take into account DVD/Blu-ray sales in regards if they want to move forward with a sequel. If it doesn't get a sequel, oh well, at least we got this film.

 

[X-Maniac]

Well, those of you who love the film need to see it again...

Those of you unsure about it need to see it once more to clarify your thoughts..

And those of you who hate it without ever having seen it need to go and watch it first before trashing it... then you are entitled to come and tell us what's wrong with it.

And if you are very interested in Super 8, then go see that as well...

Results don't come from babbling on forums, they come from doing something. Show support with your money.

We live in this age where campaigns and petitions and fighting for something involves effortlessly clicking a button online, not actually going out of the front door and taking action. But you need to 'vote' at the box office to make a difference.

 

[Figs]

Well, those of you who love the film need to see it again...

Those of you unsure about it need to see it once more to clarify your thoughts..

And those of you who hate it without ever having seen it need to go and watch it first before trashing it... then you are entitled to come and tell us what's wrong with it.

And if you are very interested in Super 8, then go see that as well...

Results don't come from babbling on forums, they come from doing something. Show support with your money.

We live in this age where campaigns and petitions and fighting for something involves effortlessly clicking a button online, not actually going out of the front door and taking action. But you need to 'vote' at the box office to make a difference.

Believe me I have, seen the thing four times already. t:

Yeah I know, I can get a little obsessive with films that I like.

 

[JP]

I've seen it 4 times.

 

[Angamb]

4 times in less than a week????

wow, lol

I preffer to wait a month or so, to see it again, so like time has passed, Ive forgotten certain things, so I would enjoy it better than seen it in the first week again.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Do you know if studios take into account DVD/Blu-ray sales in regards if they want to move forward with a sequel. If it doesn't get a sequel, oh well, at least we got this film.

Rarely, rarely happens.

The classic example, and the one that everyone uses, is Austin Powers, which was contrary to popular belief a hit in theaters back in May 1997. I believe it was made for around $10-$20 million and chugged out around $55 million and then exploded on home video. That response was what got New Line to (wisely) think that a sequel would be a gold-mine in profit. They were correct.

 

[Angamb]

I think First Class dvd sales will be good, so Fox will give it greenlight, if not before the Dvd release.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

DVD sales are not what they used to be. They aren't the make-or-break for sequels that fandom loves to fallback on frequently. Sorry.

 

[Angamb]

In any case, this is one of the main products of Fox.

And they know this is a new trilogy and a totally new cast, so the first movie cant have the same boxoffice as X2 or X3.

They know the sequel can be bigger, the same as the final part, so we dont need to worry as some seem to do.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Didn't they already start plans for an X4 and X5?

I was called crazy when I first said an X4 might happen instead of an FC2, but I think Fox might decide to go back with the money maker cast even if it's just for the sake of getting Hugh Jackman as Wolverine again. Fox changes it's mind on the direction of this franchise all the time. This was supposed to be X-Men Origins: Magneto originally and there was supposed to be an entire line of X-Men Origins films. I'm crossing my fingers because I loved this movie, but I have doubts that this film will do well enough to convince Fox to make a sequel. Especially with how crowded this Summer is.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Didn't they already start plans for an X4 and X5?

I was called crazy when I first said an X4 might happen instead of an X4, but I think Fox might decide to go back with the money maker cast even if it's just for the sake of getting Hugh Jackman as Wolverine again. Fox changes it's mind on the direction of this franchise all the time. This was supposed to be X-Men Origins: Magneto originally and there was supposed to be an entire line of X-Men Origins films. I'm crossing my fingers because I loved this movie, but I have doubts that this film will do well enough to convince Fox to make a sequel. Especially with how crowded this Summer is.

Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Basically do for the X-Men what Universal did to the Fast & the Furious by getting everyone's favorites back together and that franchise is currently experiencing its biggest grosses so far.

 

[Angamb]

I think they would come back to the future with X4 if Second Class doesnt have a better boxoffice than X2.

But not before. (sadly at the same time, because I love the original cast too)

 

[chaseter]

Fast and Furious sort re-invented itself with the last movie in 2009. It had the entire crew from the first one and it only made 159 domestic so I think that one would be more of an apt comparison to X4 or First Class. If First Class 2 is good, then it will get a higher box office than First Class did. Same for X5 when compared to X4.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

If Bryan Singer goes on to find a way to make X4, and all characters/actors return, not only do I bet it'll be the highest grossing X-Men movie, but it might actually be the best one yet assuming they give Singer the proper time and money.

 

[Angamb]

Definetly.

edited: definetly to the two previous comments, lol

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Definetly.

Hell, from what I know now, XMFC could've easily taken the mantle over TDK or at least X2 (there's still debate), but unfortunately, I think FC ultimately needed an extra $15m-$25m and just an extra 25-45 days of production time. I'm talking critical reception, not box office numbers.

It just feels like it need just a little bit more polish here and there and it could've easily been up there with TDK (which ironically, a lot of people already think that XMFC > TDK)...

 

[Nokio]

Hell, from what I know now, XMFC could've easily taken the mantle over TDK or at least X2 (there's still debate), but unfortunately, I think FC ultimately needed an extra $15m-$25m and just an extra 25-45 days of production time. I'm talking critical reception, not box office numbers.

It just feels like it need just a little bit more polish here and there and it could've easily been up there with TDK (which ironically, a lot of people already think that XMFC > TDK)...

OMG, the TDK was not that great. I can list the flaws. Just like all comic films have.

 

[Angamb]

come on, guys, I love the x-men since a long time ago, its my fave team/comic/superhero franchise....

but the Nolan movies are on another level.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I really enjoyed this movie but I pretty much ignored all the promotions and trailers due to that bad taste in my mouth from the last couple of x-men films and I think quite a few others have as well. It was really the reviews and word of mouth that then got me interested.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

come on, guys, I love the x-men since a long time ago, its my fave team/comic/superhero franchise....

but the Nolan movies are on another level.

Well, they are totally different kinds of movie too and as I've mentioned, there have been more than a handful of people that enjoyed XMFC more...


Hmmmm..

 

[Bruce Malone]

Well, they are totally different kinds of movie too and as I've mentioned, there have been more than a handful of people that enjoyed XMFC more...


Hmmmm..

Uh it probably is actually a handful and they're probably all on this forum. Commercially and critically XFC is not on the level of TDK and that's not a criticism of the film. Anyways not trying to divert the thread too much.

 

[Midnight Black]

Yes. This right here.

and while we're on the topic, how come none of you watched Undercovers?

Undercovers was not that good that's why. Even though I believe in supporting my fellow black actors the show just was not good. The stories were blah, seemed to still from chuck and alias, and the actors lacked chemistry. Basically it came off like the new Knightrider series. It had its good moments, but seemed forced.

Oh and as far as First Class being better than TDK...I don't know about that. TDK will go down as a classic in cinema history. First Class was good and to be honest a film I could watch over and over and over, but did not have that spark that TDK had. Watching TDk is like watching the Godfather in my opinion. I can only watch it once in awhile, because of the pacing of the story, but it is still a great story; whereas I can watch First Class over and over.

 

[X-Maniac]

come on, guys, I love the x-men since a long time ago, its my fave team/comic/superhero franchise....

but the Nolan movies are on another level.

Nolan's Batman movies also have far fewer characters to juggle. That is a big advantage. And we had no backstory on Joker in TDK, he was a mystery with no fingerprints, etc. Nolan stripped all the backstory away. It worked in many ways but you can see that even in a film with far fewer characters than an X-Men ensemble, Nolan ignored/omitted a lot of material...

And, of course, the X-Men are always going to be more heavy on visual effects and CGI, and their bizarre appearances and powers take them into far more fantastical/unreal territory than Batman.

Telling stories revolving around one hero with no superhuman/supernatural powers means it's far simpler to make things dark and hyper-real. I think X2 and XMFC came closest to that sort of moody and almost humourless seriousness, with X2 probably winning.

The X-Men have an immediate disadvantage of multiple characters and bizarre appearances/powers to deal with. But I hope First Class can lure viewers based on word of mouth. I think it could have done with being a bit longer, so i hope an extended cut is included on the eventual DVD/Blu-ray.

 

[Midnight Black]

Nolan's Batman movies also have far fewer characters to juggle. That is a big advantage. And we had no backstory on Joker in TDK, he was a mystery with no fingerprints, etc. Nolan stripped all the backstory away. It worked in many ways but you can see that even in a film with far fewer characters than an X-Men ensemble, Nolan ignored/omitted a lot of material...

And, of course, the X-Men are always going to be more heavy on visual effects and CGI, and their bizarre appearances and powers take them into far more fantastical/unreal territory than Batman.

Telling stories revolving around one hero with no superhuman/supernatural powers means it's far simpler to make things dark and hyper-real. I think X2 and XMFC came closest to that sort of moody and almost humourless seriousness, with X2 probably winning.

The X-Men have an immediate disadvantage of multiple characters and bizarre appearances/powers to deal with. But I hope First Class can lure viewers based on word of mouth. I think it could have done with being a bit longer, so i hope an extended cut is included on the eventual DVD/Blu-ray.

Sorry I have to disagree. LOTR had a nice sized cast and none of the characters seemed to be under developed. Even the secondary hobbits Pippin and Mary.

I just think that Singer and possibly Vaughn didn't feel that his secondary or tertiary characters were important enough to give speaking parts and develop or he didn't have the budget to pay them to speak. Remember you make more when you actually speak in films because it is a union thing.

I just don't think Singer is good in that respect. Look at X1 & X2 there were so many characters that didn't say crap, but were put in just to be put in. I'm sorry, but the man doesn't know how to juggle multiple characters. Same thing happened in Superman. In fact if you look at any of his secondary/tertiary characters they are all used in the same way.