Days of Future Past The Official X-Men: First Class Rate and Review Thread

[Sweet Xstacy]

says who and based on what? If a person has done a task A doesn't mean they'll be able to do a similar albeit bigger task B? I don't agree.



filmjuice - 4/5

You have totally missed my point. I didn't say he couldn't do it. I said there are bound to be some mis steps. He will get it right the next time. Not saying he couldn't do it at all. Audiences don't see sequels and prequels as the same. A sequel usually has the same characters with the same cast. Whatever, I'm tired of talking about it. I still think you're worrying over nothing.

It's all good. Have a good night.

 

[c-saw]

You have totally missed my point. I didn't say he couldn't do it. I said there are bound to be some mis steps. He will get it right the next time. Not saying he couldn't do it at all. Whatever, I'm tired of talking about it.

It's all good. Have a good night.

No I TOTALLY got your point. I don't see why there are bound.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

No I TOTALLY got your point. I don't see why there are bound.

Well a possibility then? Whatever. I have not seen the film yet. For all I know it could have hit all of the right notes. All I'm saying is that I don't expect it to be a masterpiece. I would be happy if it is. But I don't expect that.

 

[pyromaniac]

thank you cpt obvious. I was talking in terms of how audience will perceive it. Boith hangover 2 and first class are new entries in well kown series. - "the new x-men vs the new hangover"

That's competition for you. It has no bearing on the quality of the film itself. I don't understand by what you mean perception: The Hangover and XMFC are two different demographics, and two different films in every shape and form.

They're not going to confuse the two with one another, or decide to put money towards the one film simply because they're released relatively close to each other.

 

[c-saw]

Well a possibility then?

possibility? Sure
but unavoidable? I don't think so.

The guy was always good at macromanagement so that's why him working on a bigger project didn't concern me

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

That's competition for you. It has no bearing on the quality of the film itself. I don't understand by what you mean perception: The Hangover and XMFC are two different demographics, and two different films in every shape and form.

They're not going to confuse the two with one another, or decide to put money towards the one film simply because they're released relatively close to each other.

His point that the audience would perceive them both as sequels.

The impact to the box office was from my post.

 

[pyromaniac]

How does sequel status affect quality of the film? What does it have to do with anything?!

 

[Secret_Riddle]

not when they could have been 4

This movie is getting worse scores with each day. At first I was sure this would easily beat Thor as far as reviews go but now I'm not so sure

mattsmoviereviews - 3.5/5

where are the 5 stars?

The film's done, in the can. It's over. At this point, the scores don't matter. You're getting the same film no matter what, and likely the reception will be up to par with the franchises best. Even if it's slightly lower, this place is beginning to smell like a Batman Begins style redemption for fans. So relax.

It's contextual as well. Many things can affect scores. Heck, maybe if X-Men had been the first film of the summer like Star Trek was, scores would have been higher since it was the first big blockbuster. Now, a lot of critics are probably just a touch fatigued. Those who hated Thor might be a bit more critical now..etc.

Look, I'm not saying any of this is ACTUALLY happening, but there are several contextual factors outside the film itself that can influence a star rating (I know this because I write reviews ALL the time..and sometimes I have to try very hard to stay objective). So to lose sleep over a 3.5 compared to a 4 isn't going to make a difference. Just keep saying to yourself "it's the same movie no matter what".

Focusing on the text of the reviews, one things clear. This is going to be an awesome movie!

Edit: I'm not trying to sound condescending. When I was a bit younger during my X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3 days I used to split hairs over reviews as well. All the Rotten Tomatoes score is going to tell you is how likely you are to enjoy the film, and even so, there are times where you might disagree. I tend to agree with Rotten Tomatoes, but take Tron Legacy for example. That film got mixed reviews and I absolutely adore it.

People have different tastes, and so a 3/5 from someone who hates the genre may actually be about the best we can hope for! That's why Rotten Tomatoes sets the positive barrier so low. They try and account for varying degrees of genre taste so as to separate the best examples from the worst.

 

[pyromaniac]

People have different tastes, and so a 3/5 from someone who hates the genre may actually be about the best we can hope for! That's why Rotten Tomatoes sets the positive barrier so low. They try and account for varying degrees of genre taste so as to separate the best examples from the worst.

Yes, and on the other hand, would you rather get a 4/5 or 5/5 review out of someone who unashamedly loves the genre? Wouldn't you think that smacks of bias? A 'good' critic rarely gives out 5: they have to judge the cinematic aspects, not just the story elements and where the source material came from, like pacing, cinematography and so on.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Yes, and on the other hand, would you rather get a 4/5 or 5/5 review out of someone who unashamedly loves the genre? Wouldn't you think that smacks of bias? A 'good' critic rarely gives out 5: they have to judge the cinematic aspects, not just the story elements and where the source material came from, like pacing, cinematography and so on.

Exactly. A 3/5 from someone who dislikes the genre and a 5/5 from someone who adores it average out to a film that most people are likely going to enjoy. The average movie-goer who's fairly impartial might not think the films as mediocre as a 3, nor will they think it's as excellent as a 5.

Sometimes the average score (not the tomato-meter) is the most impartial indicator of the movie's quality. The new X-Men will probably average in the mid to high 7's in terms of score. Most of your favourite movies probably averaged out at a similar level and a few likely scored even lower. For the movie industry, an average score of 7 is really good. Heck, the best any movie really ever does is an 8. Rotten Tomatoes just tends to tell you how all encompassing the love or hate is. A 95 percent means the film captured even those who don't care for the genre, even if they only gave it 6/10 or whatever.

Bah. At the end of the day just see the movie C-saw. Don't worry about the scores. As long as critics aren't saying it's bad, you're right smack in the middle of the target audience this film is designed for. You're going to love it.

 

[JP]

C-saw is kinda over reacting.

 

[chaseter]

I am not watching this movie because no one gave it a 5 out of 4.

 

[c-saw]

i am not watching this movie because no one gave it a 5 out of 4.

lolwut?

MSN movies uk - 4/5

 

[JP]

The film has yet to receive a single BAD review. No reason to freak out.

 

[c-saw]

The film has yet to receive a single BAD review. No reason to freak out.

Who's freaking out?

sfx.co.uk - 4/5

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

The film has yet to receive a single BAD review. No reason to freak out.

Not so fast. Unless this is not considered a review. And then he spoils the cameo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/may/26/x-men-first-class-mutation#start-of-comments

I can't tell if this is an official review or not but this guy seems to really be upset that First Class is connected to the rest of the movies.

 

[JP]

Also, I haven't read the above link, but ive been warned NOT TO READ! Apparently it's filled with spoilers.

 

[c-saw]

Not so fast. Unless this is not considered a review.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/may/26/x-men-first-class-mutation#start-of-comments

I can't tell if this is an official review or not but this guy seems to really be upset that First Class is connected to the rest of the movies.

Seems more like a rant to be honest

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

Seems more like a rant to be honest

I have to agree with you. But will that be counted as a review? I really don't know how these things work.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

One bad review, 3 okay reviews, and 15 great reviews (estimate).

Why panic? These are the signs of an excellent movie. Even the best movies get a few bad reviews. Some critics just want attention and the best way to get it is be contrarian.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

Also, I haven't read the above link, but ive been warned NOT TO READ! Apparently it's filled with spoilers.

Apologies. I forgot to mention that he spoiled the cameo. I edited the post.

 

[chaseter]

lolwut?

MSN movies uk - 4/5

I was poking fun at you for freaking out that someone gave it a 3/5.

 

[Figs]

I don't get why people are crying over the fact that it's getting some 3 out of 5's, or 3.5's for that matter. That's still a decent score, they're not saying the movie was bad in any way, just not great.

I have to say though, that review up above is fairly ****** in how it was written. Instead of focusing on actually reviewing the film, the person resorts to trying to be witty and cool by throwing out a bunch of lame ass jokes to make fun of it.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Saw the movie today. LOVED IT. If you got any questions = I'm all yours)

 

[kedrell]

Spoiler

How does Chuck get crippled?