The Dark Knight The Oscar Push!

I was expecting numbers to go up a bit, but I am a bit surprised they stayed pretty consistent the whole show.
 
LOLZ well that must disappoint those who claimed the Oscars were gonna bomb this year b/c TDK wasn't nominated for Best Picture. ROFLMAO.

A few percent increase still is hardly anything to crow about, throw TDK and WALL into the Best Picture race and it's a different story.
 
The wild ride that has been this movie is finally starting to come to an end it seems...it has been,and still is, a great time to be a bat fan. Unless you want to count the MTV and Kids Choice awards
 
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I believe Will Smith even got introduced last night to the theme.

The Oscars were very boring I found, maybe it's cause I didn't see the movies that were nominated but it seemed like everything happened exactly as predicted. Oh well, I'm not bitter over TDK but I just wasn't into the awards. I was rooting for Heath and Rourke, 1/2 but unfortunately Penn won in the second to last award of the night so I was too deep into the show to bail just then haha.

The Pineapple Express bit was funny, especially when Franco/Penn were kissing.





I watched a recorded version of most of the broadcast because I didn't want to see the live version to give it ratings and so I can skip to the parts where TDK was nominated. The show was nothing special from what it seemed.

Predictable and just boring.

They should have still used video clips of the actors performances when past winners were announcing there nominations.
 
i still don't understand why people care about the oscars.

the day i let the opinion of the oscar voters influence my own on the subject of good films is the day i cheer on the english at soccer.

who cares what they think? i've felt this way for years. it's nice that ledger's performance was appreciated by a lot of people, but this statue doesn't really mean much to me. would the performance be diminised in my view had he not won? not a chance.

they don't matter to me, and i dont see why they matter to anyone else. i just wish people would stop watching it.they seem to have crediblity as standard bearers of quality, and it just astounds me.

I thought TDK was easily one of the best films of the year. no amount of little bald statues are going to change that, nor will they ever influence my opinion of a movie.
 
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i still don't understand why people care about the oscars.

the day i let the opinion of the oscar voters influence my own on the subject of good films is the day i cheer on the english at soccer.




^^Exactly!
 
LOLZ well that must disappoint those who claimed the Oscars were gonna bomb this year b/c TDK wasn't nominated for Best Picture. ROFLMAO.




Umm...the ratings still stunk....so I don't know what your talking about.
 
Exactly right. At the end of the day this childish nonsense about the Oscars being out of touch, a sham, Weinstein being a baddie, Slumdog undeserving, etc. is not merited. There was more whining and complaining going on here than on an episode of My Sweet 16 on MTV. Fact of the matter is the Academy did recognize and reward a great performance in TDK and this alone for a comic book derived film is amazing.




Fact of the matter is the Academy is still a JOKE!

LOL
 
Whether it won or not, TDK was recognized by the Academy. I believe this is the most a comic book film has ever received in nominations. And an acting Oscar for a comic book role is unheard of. That alone is a great win for the genre.

1 billion dollars in box office, and the second most nominated film of the Oscars. And there's STILL b***hing? Unbelievable. :down




I don't think it's b****thing, its just calling out the Academy for what it is.

A sham!

Slumdog was a good film no doubt.....but NOT a great film IMO.
 
Only one other actor has won an Oscar posthumously. They didn't even give one to James Dean, after nominating him posthumously twice.

The Best Supporting Actor field was weak this year (you really think they would have nominated RDJ in any other year?) and Heath's performance dominated the entire season, death or no death.




Anita,

What do you do for a living? I'm just curious....
 
they don't matter to me, and i dont see why they matter to anyone else..

I watch every year, and will keep watching every year, because I find the whole race a lot of fun. No, it doesn't change my thoughts on who I personally thought was the best, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the show...because while they don't match my exact winners, they generally do honor people I feel are also very deserving. This wasn't one of their better years in terms of Best Picture/Director...but I really don't have much issue with the other winners and nominees.
 
Ah guys we've come so long since 2006 and 07...i remember Michael Caine's interview in the summer of 2007 where he claimed that Heath was mesmerising,that he invented a crazy psycho who would terify people...and he said it was worthy of an Oscar nomination.

And i remember all the subsequential talk how an actor in a comic book movie stands no chance of receiving a nomination let alone a win and the argument of the other side that if Depp can get a nomination for Pirates why woudnt Heath be able to?

Then of course the tragedy happened and both positions were even more strenghtened...on one hand people were claiming that even James Dean didnt reeceive a posthumous award,on the other,the acclaim that was going on around the industry of his performance was felt to be to big to be ignored.

And now here we are,a year after his death,one of the most acclaimed and awarded supporting roles in history...an iconic performance that will be cherished and watched forever.

Even though some people may feel the movie was robed of several other awards...this is a great day for movie fans,comic book fans and especially Batman fans.

Heath Ledger,you will never be forgotten...
 
One question... Why didnt the Academy include Heath in the obituary montage?
 
Ledger's win, (despite the circumstances) and yes despite the fact that TDK was snubbed for Best Picture/Director after the likes of the PGA/DGA guilds deemed it worthy of a nomination, shows how far comic book movies have come in the 30 years since Donner's SUPERMAN made us believe a man could fly and, come this summer, 20 years since it's lead character helped change the perception of comic book adaptations that eventually led to what Nolan and others (at their best) have been allowed to achieve.

For those who are actually bothered that a comic book movie will never be nominated/or win for best picture don't worry. It took five decades for the first horror film to be nominated (THE EXORCIST) for the top prizes and a further 18 years passed until the next one was nominated.....and won(SILENCE OF THE LAMBS).

Also despite occasional noms it similarly seemed unlikely that a fantasy (particularly a full blown one like LOTR) movie would reap the prize..until of course the aformentioned one abbreviated did. And despite being a lover of martial arts flicks since the home video days of the 1980s if someone told me one would be nominated for Best Picture/Director one day I would have laughed in their faces (CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON).

The older members of the Academy, the ones who can't take genre or even certain subject matter seriously(The WRESTLER), will one day be fully replaced by a generation that's grown up appreciating great movies regardless of whether the lead character's in a cape, in a wrestling ring or an animated robot.
 
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I saw Slumdog Millionaire one time in theaters. I saw The Dark Knight 4 times in regular theaters and 2 times in IMAX.

I heart TDK

It's my best picture :)
 
And they all died before hitting 30 and tragically?
I don't have a list of posthumously Oscar-nominated actors. Granted, it's not much.

But if you don't know the circumstances in which James Dean died (even younger and more tragically than Heath), I reeeaaally can't help you. :oldrazz:

anyone else think that Pineapple Express short was really lame and unfunny?
I thought so. I liked the Wall-E short better. :oldrazz:

seems ratings weren't as bad as expected

"It was all about ABC last night, of course, with The 81st Annual Academy Awards at a very hefty (and approximate) 22.9 rating/36 share in the overnights from 8:30 p.m. to 12 a.m.

Comparably, this built from the year-ago telecast (20.8/32 from 8:30-11:45 p.m. on Feb. 24, 2008) by 10 percent. And it beat the four competing networks combined by 26 percent.

Here is the half-hour breakdown:

The 81st Annual Academy Awards (ABC)

8:30 p.m.: 21.5/32
9:00 p.m.: 23.1/34
9:30 p.m.: 22.9/33
10:00 p.m.: 23.9/36
10:30 p.m.: 23.0/36
11:00 p.m.: 22.7/37
11:30 p.m.: 23.5/42

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/news/national-broadcast/e3i960f99882041b107d92a91605a8616fb
Heh, note how they had the highest share about when Heath got the award. :oldrazz:

From what yahoo says, it's still gonna be in the bottom three of oscar telecasts ratings wise even though it's up from last year.

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/preliminary-ratings-show-oscar-numbers-up-ap
Of course it would be better than last year - last year was the WORST EVER.

At least this year they had Hugh Jackman and Heath.

Anita,

What do you do for a living? I'm just curious....
Cancer research. Why? :oldrazz:
 
Disappointed about Cinematography, but don't really care about any of the other losses.
 
Gotten from a comment from a user named Cathy in Deadline Hollywood Daily, no link yet:

8:30 p.m. – Viewers: 37.70 million, A18-49: 12.2/28
9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 35.28 million, A18-49: 11.5/26
9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 32.55 million, A18-49: 10.9/25
10:00 p.m. – Viewers: 32.48 million, A18-49: 11.2/27
10:30 p.m. – Viewers: 29.86 million, A18-49: 10.2/26

They lost nearly 8 million (20 percent) of their viewers over the cource of the telecast. That doesn’t bode well for next year.
So I guess Hugh Jackman was the draw last night. :oldrazz:
 
In tribute, here is heath with Joker hair and his Matilda.

heath-ledger-matilda.jpg
 
Looking back, I could see Heath not winning his Oscar had he not died. I think Heath was definitely being watched closely by the Academy after Brokeback Mountain, so the fact that he gave a good performance in The Dark Knight was probably to be expected. As for his win, while the performance was memorable, in retrospect, the Academy may have foregone his win in that category, and waited until he did something else, perhaps where he was the star and not simply supporting. So in a way, I think his death did help him win, although this time around he faced little competition in that category, so it's hard to say.

In a way though, the award became more about his death and less about the film he was in. The Oscar acceptance honored his memory, rather than the film he was in. You didn't hear anyone talk about how brilliant the Joker character is, or how deserving Batman is as a franchise. While The Dark Knight was successful, I think it owed a ton of it's success to Heath. Sure the movie was awesome, but I knew so people who were completely uninterested in superhero genre films and Batman in general, and didn't even see Begins, who went to see TDK and made no bones that it was all about Heath.
 
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Here's hoping the TDK sequel is shot entirely in IMAX? Well, assuming Nolan decides to do it.
 
Looking back, I could see Heath not winning his Oscar had he not died. I think Heath was definitely being watched closely by the Academy after Brokeback Mountain, so the fact that he gave a good performance in The Dark Knight was probably to be expected. As for his win, while the performance was memorable, in retrospect, the Academy may have foregone his win in that category, and waited until he did something else, perhaps where he was the star and not simply supporting. So in a way, I think his death did help him win, although this time around he faced little competition in that category, so it's hard to say.

In a way though, the award became more about his death and less about the film he was in. The Oscar acceptance honored his memory, rather than the film he was in. You didn't hear anyone talk about how brilliant the Joker character is, or how deserving Batman is as a franchise. While The Dark Knight was successful, I think it owed a ton of it's success to Heath. Sure the movie was awesome, but I knew so people who were completely uninterested in superhero genre films and Batman in general, and didn't even see Begins, who went to see TDK and made no bones that it was all about Heath.

Agreed. Ledger's performance was great. The nomination was a guarantee but I can't help but think that had he lived someone else would have walked away with the Best Supporting Actor Oscar last night. For the exact reasons you mentioned. The race became about sentimentality rather than performance. But the mere whiff of comments like this will send fanboys into a rabid frenzy. So brace yourself for the "Michael Cainez said blab blah blah before he died", "The Joker performance deserved the winz", "What are you talking aboutz" comments.
 

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