The Positive Thread

[kguillou]

So, I literally just finished watching 'That Awkward Moment'. I normally don't watch romantic comedies but I actually really liked this one and Jordan and Teller had really good chemistry together. So....I guess what I'm saying is...if they can bring that same kind of chemistry with Mara and Bell then MAYBE it won't be so bad? Maybe?

 

[psylockolussus]

Time will tell. Some of the casting for the film aren't that great because they just don't look the part of the comic characters but I think the cast will bring chemistry to the screen. On paper, they have a good cast and if they get decent roles, I think they will be fantastic!

 

[ThePhantasm]

MAYBE it won't be so bad? Maybe?

Ladies and gentlemen... The Positive Thread!!!

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

People really need to separate quality from accuracy. Being in-accurate doesn't equal bad quality and being accurate doesn't equal good quality

Many of those saying the movie will be awful or terrible are basing that on it being in-accurate (to 616) and not on the filmography of those involved in the movie.

 

[The Infernal]

People have definitely discussed the directors, the writers and cast's filmography and their quality numerous times. Don't know why you'd assert otherwise.

And the conversation people are having is not one of accuracy for the sake of accuracy, but staying true to the characters and basic concept of the Fantastic Four. Doom being the most contentious at the moment because as far as anyone is concerned he does not have anything in common with his comic counterpart in terms of character.

 

[Hurm...]

People really need to separate quality from accuracy. Being in-accurate doesn't equal bad quality and being accurate doesn't equal good quality

Many of those saying the movie will be awful or terrible are basing that on it being in-accurate (to 616) and not on the filmography of those involved in the movie.

Bang on.

 

[Dark Raven]

People have definitely discussed the directors, the writers and cast's filmography and their quality numerous times. Don't know why you'd assert otherwise.

And the conversation people are having is not one of accuracy for the sake of accuracy, but staying true to the characters and basic concept of the Fantastic Four. Doom being the most contentious at the moment because as far as anyone is concerned he does not have anything in common with his comic counterpart in terms of character.

Bang on.

 

[Kelly]

Time will tell. Some of the casting for the film aren't that great because they just don't look the part of the comic characters but I think the cast will bring chemistry to the screen. On paper, they have a good cast and if they get decent roles, I think they will be fantastic!

How exactly do these go together?

 

[marvelrobbins]

interview with movement choreographer
http://www.movies.com/movie-news/fantastic-four-movie-the-thing-terry-notary/17354

 

[Eddie]

People really need to separate quality from accuracy. Being in-accurate doesn't equal bad quality and being accurate doesn't equal good quality

Many of those saying the movie will be awful or terrible are basing that on it being in-accurate (to 616) and not on the filmography of those involved in the movie.

You're right, we should talk about the filmography of those involved. Let's take a look at Jeremy Slater's filmography:

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

People have definitely discussed the directors, the writers and cast's filmography and their quality numerous times. Don't know why you'd assert otherwise.

And the conversation people are having is not one of accuracy for the sake of accuracy, but staying true to the characters and basic concept of the Fantastic Four. Doom being the most contentious at the moment because as far as anyone is concerned he does not have anything in common with his comic counterpart in terms of character.

Agreed about Doom. But the rest from what we know seem to stay true to the base concept and characterisation of the Ultimate Fantastic Four.

Only time I've seen people discuss the potential quality of the film based on the people involved it's been saying that Trank is just doing Chronicle 2 and bringing up the F4 films from almost ten years ago as a barometer for quality of the studio rather than recent films and in fairness citing MBJ as the right kindof actor for Johhnys character.

The studios last CBM is sitting at 92% critical and fan acclaim. The directors last movie is sitting at 80-something-% critical acclaim. The writers last movie is the same 92% as above and Tellers most recent film is getting Oscar buzz

From the looks of things even if this film is in-accurate it has a lot going for it in terms of potential to be a very good film.

 

[DigificWriter]

From the looks of things even if this film is "inaccurate" it has a lot going for it in terms of potential to be a very good film.

QFT.

For anyone who's willing to not be cynical and automatically pessimistic, there's actually a lot about this movie - especially now that we have a synopsis for it - to be excited about.

 

[Eddie]

Agreed about Doom. But the rest from what we know seem to stay true to the base concept and characterisation of the Ultimate Fantastic Four.

Only time I've seen people discuss the potential quality of the film based on the people involved it's been saying that Trank is just doing Chronicle 2 and bringing up the F4 films from almost ten years ago as a barometer for quality of the studio rather than recent films and in fairness citing MBJ as the right kindof actor for Johhnys character.

The studios last CBM is sitting at 92% critical and fan acclaim. The directors last movie is sitting at 80-something-% critical acclaim. The writers last movie is the same 92% as above and Tellers most recent film is getting Oscar buzz

From the looks of things even if this film is in-accurate it has a lot going for it in terms of potential to be a very good film.

Fair points. Also fair points:
- The studio has been involved in well over a dozen comic based films with less than a 50% on Rotten Tomatoes. Over half a dozen couldn't even hit 25%, including one that released a few short years ago.
-The original writer's last movie is sitting at diddly squat, because it doesn't exist.
-Less than one third of Simon Kinberg's filmography as a writer is certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. He has more films with terrible reviews than films with great reviews.
-Various actors involved have been in some truly awful films. It happens. Actors have to take bad work all the time. I won't hold that against them, but you really should remember that everyone in the cast with a substantial filmography in The Fantastic Four has shown that they'll do crap movies.
-As an added bonus, one of the leads has been in a Kinberg scripted film. It wasn't one of the two(!) that audiences and critics actually liked.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Since 2011 Fox's comic book films have been well received.Even the Wolverine
got better reaction than man of steel and Thor:The dark world.Tom Rothman
the main problem for Last Stand,Rise of silver surfer,and origins is long gone.

It has been clear as day for so long this film is based on ultimate FF.The snypasis confirms it.Simon Kinberg has said this film also has 616 elements.

The sneak peak for the terminator reboot/sequel trailer looks good despite my own misgivings on the film.The FF could be of same boat.

Nobody says WB can't make good comic book films because of Batman & Robin,Steel,Catwoman,and Green Lantern.

 

[Kelly]

I just feel the need to type, "space bar".

I feel so much better.

 

[Eddie]

Ignoring over 90% of the comic films Fox has been involved with because they contradict your point is a great way to stay positive. I applaud all of the positive fans for being able to ignore over 90% of what we know about this film, actually.

I myself do have one very positive thing to say about the film, you know, in the spirit of the positive thread. I genuinely believe that this will not be the worst film ever made. I'm positive that of the thousands, possibly even millions, of films that now exist that aren't the worst movie ever made, The Fantastic Four will be one of them.

I'm positive that, while the synopsis doesn't really excite me, I can be open to the idea that this snypasis I hear tell of could be pretty rad.

While I cannot possibly say that I'm positive nobody says WB can't make good comic book films because of Batman & Robin, Steel, Catwoman, and Green Lantern as I have not spoken of the subject to everybody, I can positively say that Zod doesn't say it. His neck is entirely too broken for words.

 

[starscream22]

Hmm.......

 

[Dark Raven]

QFT.

For anyone who's willing to not be cynical and automatically pessimistic, there's actually a lot about this movie - especially now that we have a synopsis for it - to be excited about.

That synopsis doesn't sound exciting.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just watched Chronicle again, last night. I hope Josh Trank delivers again with this reboot!t:

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I hope I deliver tomorrow morning after my bran cereal.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Agreed about Doom. But the rest from what we know seem to stay true to the base concept and characterisation of the Ultimate Fantastic Four.

Only time I've seen people discuss the potential quality of the film based on the people involved it's been saying that Trank is just doing Chronicle 2 and bringing up the F4 films from almost ten years ago as a barometer for quality of the studio rather than recent films and in fairness citing MBJ as the right kindof actor for Johhnys character.

The studios last CBM is sitting at 92% critical and fan acclaim. The directors last movie is sitting at 80-something-% critical acclaim. The writers last movie is the same 92% as above and Tellers most recent film is getting Oscar buzz

From the looks of things even if this film is in-accurate it has a lot going for it in terms of potential to be a very good film.

Cyclops Is Right

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

So, I literally just finished watching 'That Awkward Moment'. I normally don't watch romantic comedies but I actually really liked this one and Jordan and Teller had really good chemistry together. So....I guess what I'm saying is...if they can bring that same kind of chemistry with Mara and Bell then MAYBE it won't be so bad? Maybe?

I wish the internet would have actually watch a MBJ movie or tv show before they ripped him to pieces because he's not white. He's the next it guy and deserves a chance atleast.

 

[The Infernal]

I wish the internet would have actually watch a MBJ movie or tv show before they ripped him to pieces because he's not white. He's the next it guy and deserves a chance atleast.

Where do you see the relevance of bringing up Jordan's race in regards to the post you quoted?

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Where do you see the relevance of bringing up Jordan's race in regards to the post you quoted?

When he got cast alot of people did not like it because he was not white. Im not sure if that was the first MBJ movie the poster has seen but he complimented the chemistry he had with Teller which is what Trank was looking for. My point was I wish more people would judge the young man on his acting ability instead of his skin color.

 

[Orba]

When he got cast alot of people did not like it because he was not white. Im not sure if that was the first MBJ movie the poster has seen but he complimented the chemistry he had with Teller which is what Teank was looking for. My point was I wish more people would judge the young man on his acting ability instead of his skin color.

I don't think people ever criticized his acting talents, just his suitability for that particular role.