Tangled Web
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Jealous.Corinthian said:Pocho
Jealous.Corinthian said:Pocho
Well, if you are talking about lowering the pay, I'm with you. In fact, I would love that all of the immigrants would just stay in Mexico and that Mexico could've been a better place. However, you have to realize that this is mainly the economy's fault. It's not Mexican's, but the system in general.Maxwell Smart said:Tangled and Corinthian, you do realize that illegal labor has hurt the American working man? I mean I'm with you about not deporting the people who already live here, and I'm not anti-immigration.. but please tell me you realize that its hurting the blue collar people here.
Carter said:Oh, it's stupid to protect borders
Look, I agree that someting needs to be done. I think making illegals legal would be most beneficial, also making legal imigration easier would be great.Maxwell Smart said:Tangled and Corinthian, you do realize that illegal labor has hurt the American working man? I mean I'm with you about not deporting the people who already live here, and I'm not anti-immigration.. but please tell me you realize that its hurting the blue collar people here.
Tangled Web said:Look, I agree that someting needs to be done. I think making illegals legal would be most beneficial, also making legal imigration easier would be great.
What I'm worried about is how all of this worry over this issue leads to hate against Mexican-Americans. Obviously it leads morons to stereotype. (onejeremytogo)
Exactly. If only the politicians can work it out like we did.Maxwell Smart said:I agree about making them legal. It would be beneficial to the labor movement in this country, because I think the only reason that the illegals don't organize and demand better treatment like legal workers is because of their status. If they are legalized they will be free to join their American-born brethern in "sticking it to the man", and thats a good thing.
Corinthian™ said:You people know that of the 11 millions of immigrants only about 5 millions or so are illegal right?
and saying that most mexicans(or a great majority) steal and do stuff like that it's like saying that most blacks are gangstas and criminals and that most of white americans are racists and almost near Neo-nazis
And I was watching a thing in History channel about MS 13. It's funny that MS 13 is now a problem that Mexico and Central America has to deal because USA deported them. When the US immigration deported those little ****ers it was like throwing a bag full of **** to a Ceiling Fan
I never labled your "race". I labled the "class" of most of the immigrants. Why in the hell do you think they're moving to America. Get it right before you start accusing people of racism. And I don't fully agree with you that "whites" are the nations biggest criminals. All races have criminals. I do not stereotype races. I do not dislike Mexicans in anyway. I dislike illegal immigrants. I'd feel the same way if they were Chinese, Mexican, Italian or WHITE! So do NOT accuse me of being a rasict. Here's a classic line for you but hey it fits...I've dated a Mexican...it just so happens the one I dated was legal and born here. BIG DIFFERENCE!Tangled Web said:"typical" screw you. Middle American? I'm a Mexican-American. The worst criminals this nation has ever seen have been whites, yet no one negatively sterotypes them.
btw a large number of cops down here are Hispanic, including my Dad. So when you call them "typical" take a look in the mirror at your own race before labeling another's.
Oh yeah?? Try being poor with no college degree and finding a job when that happens.Maxwell Smart said:I agree about making them legal. It would be beneficial to the labor movement in this country, because I think the only reason that the illegals don't organize and demand better treatment like legal workers is because of their status. If they are legalized they will be free to join their American-born brethern in "sticking it to the man", and thats a good thing.
onejeremytogo said:All races have criminals. I do not stereotype races. I do not dislike Mexicans in anyway. I dislike illegal immigrants. I'd feel the same way if they were Chinese, Mexican, Italian or WHITE! So do NOT accuse me of being a rasict.
onejeremytogo said:I never labled your "race". I labled the "class" of most of the immigrants. Why in the hell do you think they're moving to America. Get it right before you start accusing people of racism. And I don't fully agree with you that "whites" are the nations biggest criminals. All races have criminals. I do not stereotype races. I do not dislike Mexicans in anyway. I dislike illegal immigrants. I'd feel the same way if they were Chinese, Mexican, Italian or WHITE! So do NOT accuse me of being a rasict. Here's a classic line for you but hey it fits...I've dated a Mexican...it just so happens the one I dated was legal and born here. BIG DIFFERENCE!
That would not be bad if that were true. As I said in a previous post however they come over here and CONTINUE to commit those crimes. Granted not all of any particular race follows the leader and commits those crimes but they are much more conditioned to seeing as how they live with it in their country.Mr Sparkle said:LOL, here's what I don't get.
they're "taught" to steal right? and kill too right? because they're lower class?
however.
instead of leading a life of crime in their country, they cross the desert and sometimes die to go to the US and be the sector of the population with THE HIGHEST EMPLOYMENT RATE?
damn these devious Mexican underclasses and their 97% employment rate!
LOL, yeah, shows how much you know about "them"
onejeremytogo said:That would not be bad if that were true. As I said in a previous post however they come over here and CONTINUE to commit those crimes. Granted not all of any particular race follows the leader and commits those crimes but they are much more conditioned to seeing as how they live with it in their country.
onejeremytogo said:Oh yeah?? Try being poor with no college degree and finding a job when that happens.
Mr Sparkle said:damn these devious Mexican underclasses and their 97% employment rate!
Scroll up and reread. I never said because of thier race. I said their class. The part of the the world they are from. Not their race. People aren't bred to commit crime. It's not a trait that can be found in their genes. To say their race is plain ignorance.Tangled Web said:one jeremy, first off, you didn't specify that you were talking about illegals, you just said Mexicans. And yes white-Americans have commited the worst crimes, do I judge them all? No, of course not. You can't say that somene, because of their race, is taught to steal or commit crimes.
Well, you definitely spoke about Hispanics like animals bred to commit crime.onejeremytogo said:Scroll up and reread. I never said because of thier race. I said their class. The part of the the world they are from. Not their race. People aren't bred to commit crime. It's not a trait that can be found in their genes. To say their race is plain ignorance.
dcbmp said:What I don't get is why illegals are protesting HERE. Protest in your own country. Protest for YOU'RE government to fix itself. Oh, wait, that's right...why fix your own government when you can blame America ?
blind_fury said:For every Mexican hoodlum there are a dozen or so hard working, freedom loving Mexicans. To say that many rape or steal is just an ugly stereotype. It sounds like the racist paranioa that drove ant-immigration legislation in the 1920s.