The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - - Part 58

[Nevincer]

DK90! What the heck did you do to your avatar? It's even weirder now.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

DK90! What the heck did you do to your avatar? It's even weirder now.

Whats wrong with it? What are you seeing?

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Joke descrption or Rocketmans description. Well I guess the latter is a joke too seeing as it was complete bologna.

Rocketman's description was real dude. He told us that the prologue was a plane crash. His words being "You're getting a damn plane crash". It essentially was a plane crash. The stuff he said about young talia and bane, he said specifically that was not in the prologue.

 

[Nevincer]

Whats wrong with it? What are you seeing?

Oh I reset my browser and it's back to normal now. That was odd, sorry It was all pixel-y for a second.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

It IS premiering there. Not Hyperbole lol! This is fact!

Seriously the trailer is premiering next week guys. Get ready. This doesn't mean much for me though. I'm avoiding descriptions and leaks for the third and final trailer, and waiting to see it with the Avengers or online the weekend after Avengers comes out. This is going to be the longest two weeks ever. Gah

News at the tail end of Thread 62.

You two must be psychics.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Oh I reset my browser and it's back to normal now. That was odd, sorry It was all pixel-y for a second.

Its just that your the second person to say that to me... huh... maybe I should switch back to the old one.

 

[craigdbfan]

Rocketman's description was real dude. He told us that the prologue was a plane crash. His words being "You're getting a damn plane crash". It essentially was a plane crash. The stuff he said about young talia and bane, he said specifically that was not in the prologue.

You need to have your mind refreshed. There was countless other stuff he said would be in the prologue that was definitely not in it.

- Josh Pence / Young Ra’s Al Ghul is in this significantly, along with a Young Bane.

- We are getting the League of Shadows. (We knew this)

- We see a friendship between Little Boy Bane and Little Talia, and believe it or not, this is going to mirror Young Bruce and Rachel in the very first scene of Batman Begins when they’re children. We won’t see footage of this scene intercut into the prologue, but the word "mirror" is written a few times. There seems to be a huge deal of "reflection" happening in this movie. Things will mirror other things. I have no clue what that means, but it seems fascinating. Talia is to Bane what Rachel was to Bruce – not really a lover, not really a sister-figure, but rather a good friend who shared childhood memories together, some being traumatic.

- This "Unnamed Mad Scientist" that we’ve seen around the sets, played by Alon Aboutboul, is the guy who essentially “created” Bane, and he is a bastard. He performed horrific experiments on him and it will be in the prologue. This man has supposedly helped to create the “Doomsday” device that we’ve seen in the pictures, but I use the word “Doomsday” because I haven’t been told what it is.

- The result of Bane’s health condition comes from a fire (as we all probably could’ve guessed). Ra’s Al Ghul’s wife (Talia’s mother) is trapped in this fire with Bane, along with Talia. Ra’s has only time to save Talia and Bane, but Bane is the last to escape and is severely injured / scarred. This is “tough to watch”, and mirrors Harvey Dent barely making it out of the warehouse. Ra's' wife is viewed as a "witch"/"gypsy" in their village, and Ra's is a "wizard". They're essentially "burning the witch at the stake", and Bane is an unfortunate casualty. (Again, a mirror to his supernatural side) - Villagers arrive with torches like it's the townspeople arriving to kill Frankenstein's monster - in this case, the monster isn't Bane - it's Ra's' wife.

- The brief snippet of Bane crawling up the well in the teaser will be in the prologue. This is part of Bane’s training, administered by Ra’s. Again, this will “mirror” the very first scene of Batman Begins, when Young Bruce falls down the well. It’s essentially the same exact shot. Young Bane RISES UP, Young Bruce FALLS DOWN.

- Among the Batman Begins shots inserted into TDKR: Bruce with longer hair and beard walking through the Chinese prison, Bruce inhaling from the bowl of the hallucinogen, Bane being one of the masked LOS members who was standing in the anonymous pack while Ra’s sicked bats on Bruce from the chest. We see Liam Neeson, but not in terms of new footage here.

- The only new footage we see of Liam Neeson is right when Bane emerges from the top of the well and, Ra’s is standing there waiting for him, impressed. Ra’s training Bane throughout his life mirrors the montage of Batman Begins ("My anger outweighs my guilt"), only this time, through clever editing in montage, we see Josh Pence age quickly into Liam/Ra’s Al Ghul through quick cuts, each cut making Bane a little taller. The ice set is there, though we can't know visually if it's the exact same location (since it's on paper.

As I said it was completely hogwash.

 

[batman11]

Osaito!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember that. Good times.

Spoiler

Memories. t:

 

[Nevincer]

Spoiler

Memories. t:

Man, that was a classic.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

lmao

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

You need to have your mind refreshed. There was countless other stuff he said would be in the prologue that was definitely not in it.



As I said it was completely hogwash.

I remember him saying right after he wrote that, that that stuff isn't in the prologue, but peppered through out the movie. He didn't want to tell us the real prologue, so he told us tidbits about the film to make us think it was the prologue or something. That's why people(me included) kept pestering him until he gave us the real prologue which he eventually told us was the "plane crash"(which it essentially was). I don't know. Why doesn't Rocketman chime in? What's the deal dude?

 

[MultipleJesuses]

Rocketman's description was real dude. He told us that the prologue was a plane crash. His words being "You're getting a damn plane crash". It essentially was a plane crash. The stuff he said about young talia and bane, he said specifically that was not in the prologue.

I've agreed with Rocketman on a lot of theories but I'm with craigdbfan on this one, I can't recall any of Rocketman's info being real.

Its just that your the second person to say that to me... huh... maybe I should switch back to the old one.

Oh I reset my browser and it's back to normal now. That was odd, sorry It was all pixel-y for a second.

I thought that was on purpose

 

[kvz5]

IIRC he said that the young Bane/Talia stuff was not in the prologue. The prologue was Bane hijacking a plane with a Hussein-like dictator and it was his final LoS test and it's also intercut with scenes of him climbing out of the well and you see Liam's Ra's waiting for him at the opening of the well.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Why doesn't Rocketman chime in? What's the deal dude?

Rocketman can't come to the board right now... but if you'd like to make a PM.

 

[Nevincer]

IIRC he said that the young Bane/Talia stuff was not in the prologue. The prologue was Bane hijacking a plane with a Hussein-like dictator and it was his final LoS test and it's also intercut with scenes of him climbing out of the well and you see Liam's Ra's waiting for him at the opening of the well.

That's what he sent to me.

 

[craigdbfan]

So in other words it was completely made up. We already knew about the plane sequence by the way due to the on location set pictures of that scene along with Wally telling us that it'd be an important action piece.

Rocketman intertwined bologna with stuff we already knew.

 

[The_Raganork]

So in other words it was completely made up. We already knew about the plane sequence by the way due to the on location set pictures of that scene along with Wally telling us that it'd be an important action piece.

Rocketman intertwined bologna with stuff we already knew.

to be fair though, we didn't know that plane sequence would be the prologue.

I was under the impression for some time It was going to be the L.A. chase.

What Rocketman said turned out to be ultimately untrue but with a good portion of things that were actually true.

Determining if that was a coincidence or a clever lie is going to be impossible and frankly serves no purpose.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

So in other words it was completely made up. We already knew about the plane sequence by the way due to the on location set pictures of that scene along with Wally telling us that it'd be an important action piece.

Rocketman intertwined bologna with stuff we already knew.

Aha! But, the stuff he wrote that he told us was infact NOT in the prologue, has not been disproven. That stuff may be in the film. Like the thing about Ras being at the top of the giant hole waiting for Bane, or the stuff about Ras wife. If all that stuff he wrote that you just pasted, if that's in the film, it means he was telling the truth!

 

[TomServo]

Speaking of the prologue

Spoiler

we mustn't forget Osito

 

[kvz5]

That's what he sent to me.

I think it eventually got out too because I recall reading it here as a post. I can't remember how but everyone was already talking about it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21944439&postcount=17

And I remember it being posted as well in one of the D-List movies sites where they apparently got an email tip about it.

to be fair though, we didn't know that plane sequence would be the prologue.

I was under the impression for some time It was going to be the L.A. chase.

What Rocketman said turned out to be ultimately untrue but with a good portion of things that were actually true.

Determining if that was a coincidence or a clever lie is going to be impossible and frankly serves no purpose.

I think the popular theory/wish (mine included) was that it will be the Batman/GCPD chase scene but we all had to change our guesses when Nolan said in the Empire interview that it revolves around Bane. After that the popular theories were a plane crash (since we saw pics of that) or a prison breakout.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I think it eventually got out too because I recall reading it here as a post. I can't remember how but everyone was already talking about it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21944439&postcount=17

And I remember it being posted as well in one of the D-List movies sites where they apparently got an email tip about it.




I think the popular theory/wish (mine included) was that it will be the Batman/GCPD chase scene but we all had to change our guesses when Nolan said in the Empire interview that it revolves around Bane. After that the popular theories were a plane crash (since we saw pics of that) or a prison breakout.

Hey that's me!

 

[Ramsay Snow]

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[Nevincer]

Mind your language .

.... That's possibly one of the lamest attempts at humor I've ever read. I mean, seriously?

 

[ChrisB]

What's all this about the trailer being shown at CinemaCon? Just wishful thinking?

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

What's all this about the trailer being shown at CinemaCon? Just wishful thinking?

Nope. Confirmed!