The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 105

[BatDog]

Unless Bane is black under the mask...
That's clearly Christopher Judge dude.

Y'all must be trolling me, unless Chris Judge wears a mask over the lower part of his face... y'know, like Bane.

 

[kthevs]

I'm telling you guys, an ambigious ending with not knowing if Bale or JGL was in the new batsuit would be pretty awesome and Nolanish.

That would be terrible. That kind of ending would not work for a Batman movie.

 

[DasFeuerSteigt]

Y'all must be trolling me, unless Chris Judge wears a mask over the lower part of his face... y'know, like Bane.

Your eyes be deceiving you.

 

[gorillanesthsia]

Okay guys...

John Blake will not be Batman.

The "Sewer" fight is not towards the end of the movie.

Catwoman leads Batman there, Bane defeats him while she watches and finds out who Batman really is, this is what makes he switch sides.

Spoiler

Gordon is also pushed into the water and almost drowns which is why he is in the hospita., John Blake rescues him after he is washed out into a drainage ditch.

Selina THINKS she is bringing about social change via Bane when she is convinced and swayed by his methods just like the middle class citizens of Gotham (Punishing the rich in Kangaroo Court while the poor cheer on, preaching corporate greed needs to be abolished, convincing people to rise up against the "police state" and the corporations that facilitates this kind of world (Too Big To Fail).

When she finds out the richest man in the city is also it's only true protector and finds out his "playboy" persona is the real alter ego and that she has helped take out the city's only hope from Bane, she tries to flee (is stopped by John Blake) and breaks her loose agreement with Bane. By doing so, she is on Bane's **** list and forms a loose agreement with Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Spoiler

By the end she falls for him (hug and kiss scene, fighting on rooftops together, riding in the Bat) but still ****s with him from time to time because, well, it's just too fun.

 

[ggghhh]

Y'all must be trolling me, unless Chris Judge wears a mask over the lower part of his face... y'know, like Bane.

 

[DasFeuerSteigt]

Well, most just assumed that's who she was playing.

Aliensarchive info have all checked out so far. I personally have no reason to doubt him.

I guess her part's not as big as I thought.

 

[sqwhale]

Y'all must be trolling me, unless Chris Judge wears a mask over the lower part of his face... y'know, like Bane.

Obvious it's not Bane. There is no mask.

 

[BatDog]

Your eyes be deceiving you.

Sigh. They must be. Even the mod says it's Chris Judge. Oh well. I am shamed.

 

[kthevs]

I can't see Bruce and Selina riding off to the sunset together and living happily ever after if she kills Bane. Those two theories just don't go together but I've seen speculations saying both will happen.

Only if she kills him so Bruce doesn't have to.

 

[Norek]

I thought it was Bane until it was pointed out to me. The build/costume looked Bane-ish to me.

Really? I didn't think it was Christopher Judge at first, but it didn't look like Bane to me.

 

[Nevincer]

Maybe BatDog's monitor is too dark or something. It happens.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Y'all must be trolling me, unless Chris Judge wears a mask over the lower part of his face... y'know, like Bane.

LMAO!

Clearly not Bane.

 

[DasFeuerSteigt]

Sigh. They must be. Even the mod says it's Chris Judge. Oh well. I am shamed.

If you look at the pic posted at the end of page 1 of the thread it's a lot clearer. You can see there is no mask. In the trailer it's definitely not clear - easy mistake to make.

 

[Reek]

Its not Bane, its Blackmask

 

[ggghhh]

Really? I didn't think it was Christopher Judge at first, but it didn't look like Bane to me.

I think I assumed it was Bane first time seeing it along with a lot of people, it goes by quickly. Pretty easy to see it's not him when you pause it.

 

[gorillanesthsia]

It's def. Chris Judge.

It is connected to the shot of John Blake with his hands up... he isn't kneeling down on his knees, he just has his hands up with Judge there and he knocks him down.

 

[Nevincer]

This clears it up. Can see his face well in this screen.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Chris Judge was even on a radio show talking about a fight scene between him and JGL.

Spoiler

Clearly not Bane.

Bump.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Okay guys...

John Blake will not be Batman.

The "Sewer" fight is not towards the end of the movie.

Catwoman leads Batman there, Bane defeats him while she watches and finds out who Batman really is, this is what makes he switch sides.

Spoiler

Gordon is also pushed into the water and almost drowns which is why he is in the hospita., John Blake rescues him after he is washed out into a drainage ditch.

Selina THINKS she is bringing about social change via Bane when she is convinced and swayed by his methods just like the middle class citizens of Gotham (Punishing the rich in Kangaroo Court while the poor cheer on, preaching corporate greed needs to be abolished, convincing people to rise up against the "police state" and the corporations that facilitates this kind of world (Too Big To Fail).

When she finds out the richest man in the city is also it's only true protector and finds out his "playboy" persona is the real alter ego and that she has helped take out the city's only hope from Bane, she tries to flee (is stopped by John Blake) and breaks her loose agreement with Bane. By doing so, she is on Bane's **** list and forms a loose agreement with Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Spoiler

By the end she falls for him (hug and kiss scene, fighting on rooftops together, riding in the Bat) but still ****s with him from time to time because, well, it's just too fun.

This is what I assumed so far, and I really like the story/motives for Catwoman here.

 

[MrWayne]

I'm telling you guys, an ambigious ending with not knowing if Bale or JGL was in the new batsuit would be pretty awesome and Nolanish.

No, please.... just... just stop.

Spoiler

 

[kthevs]

Okay guys...

John Blake will not be Batman.

The "Sewer" fight is not towards the end of the movie.

Catwoman leads Batman there, Bane defeats him while she watches and finds out who Batman really is, this is what makes he switch sides.

Spoiler

Gordon is also pushed into the water and almost drowns which is why he is in the hospita., John Blake rescues him after he is washed out into a drainage ditch.

Selina THINKS she is bringing about social change via Bane when she is convinced and swayed by his methods just like the middle class citizens of Gotham (Punishing the rich in Kangaroo Court while the poor cheer on, preaching corporate greed needs to be abolished, convincing people to rise up against the "police state" and the corporations that facilitates this kind of world (Too Big To Fail).

When she finds out the richest man in the city is also it's only true protector and finds out his "playboy" persona is the real alter ego and that she has helped take out the city's only hope from Bane, she tries to flee (is stopped by John Blake) and breaks her loose agreement with Bane. By doing so, she is on Bane's **** list and forms a loose agreement with Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Spoiler

By the end she falls for him (hug and kiss scene, fighting on rooftops together, riding in the Bat) but still ****s with him from time to time because, well, it's just too fun.

That sounds great, but... what is it based on? Are you just guessing? And the real question is... will Bruce also fall for her.

 

[Norek]

I think I assumed it was Bane first time seeing it along with a lot of people, it goes by quickly. Pretty easy to see it's not him when you pause it.

I didn't pay attention to who he was, but as I saw the trailer multiple times, I realized it was just some guy and not Bane. Although it is definitely Judge, I didn't even remember he was cast in this film.

My frustration came from the fact that there are still people who think it's Bane, since we've had this trailer for almost two months. You can easily tell it's not him by pausing the trailer and looking somewhat closely.

 

[Godmaul]

Gorilla has posted some things and spoilers that have been confirmed already, iirc. Most of what he posted above, I feel like I already "knew" even though it hadn't been confirmed. I honestly think I know a lot of what is going to happen on screen already, and I still can't wait to see it transpire.

This film will turn out to be one of the best in a very long time, I think. The fact that it's a film about Batman just further legitimizes the genre and adds to the 'awesome'.

 

[BatDog]

That sounds great, but... what is it based on? Are you just guessing? And the real question is... will Bruce also fall for her.

I think having too many love interests for Bruce really dilutes his character. Plus having two different female characters that betray our protagonist at one point in the film (from what we speculate so far) doesn't portray the fairer sex in such a good light and I don't think Nolan would do that.

 

[Milkman95]

Okay guys...

John Blake will not be Batman.

The "Sewer" fight is not towards the end of the movie.

Catwoman leads Batman there, Bane defeats him while she watches and finds out who Batman really is, this is what makes he switch sides.

Spoiler

Gordon is also pushed into the water and almost drowns which is why he is in the hospita., John Blake rescues him after he is washed out into a drainage ditch.

Selina THINKS she is bringing about social change via Bane when she is convinced and swayed by his methods just like the middle class citizens of Gotham (Punishing the rich in Kangaroo Court while the poor cheer on, preaching corporate greed needs to be abolished, convincing people to rise up against the "police state" and the corporations that facilitates this kind of world (Too Big To Fail).

When she finds out the richest man in the city is also it's only true protector and finds out his "playboy" persona is the real alter ego and that she has helped take out the city's only hope from Bane, she tries to flee (is stopped by John Blake) and breaks her loose agreement with Bane. By doing so, she is on Bane's **** list and forms a loose agreement with Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Spoiler

By the end she falls for him (hug and kiss scene, fighting on rooftops together, riding in the Bat) but still ****s with him from time to time because, well, it's just too fun.

This sounds accurate, so, the question is, where and how did you gather this, or is this just your theory?