The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 105

[Avengers-Report]

For the record, I'm 85% sure the "final shot" of the series is the one in the trailers with Batman standing on the bridge overlooking Gotham.

I don't think so. I think with how secretive they have been about this particular ending, it wouldn't have showed up in the trailers yet.

 

[Nevincer]

God, this is worse than the denial that Joker would be permawhite at some stage or that Two-Face survived.

 

[Avengers-Report]

God, this is worse than the denial that Joker would be permawhite at some stage or that Two-Face survived.

Some people still think Two-Face did survive

 

[elsewhere]

No, The Dark Knight Rises is just the ending. There won't be a next film, there will be a reboot.

Are we sure the next films won't be a continuation?

 

[Nevincer]

Some people still think Two-Face did survive

No, but they did after the film was out and were convinced he'd be in Batman 3.

 

[Norek]

This time it's not just about the ending of a film, but it's also the ending of the trilogy. So yeah, they'll probably keep the ending until the movie is released and not show any shots of it in the trailer.

 

[batman1115]

I so hope that we've seen absolutely NOTHING from this film, when it's revealed in theaters! Imagine if all the sudden, Gotham litterally starts to crumble, and all buildings WILL start to shatter, as seen in teaser!? Only in the movie, it will look just a bit too frighteningly real!? Bane has some sort of hi-tech thingy, which purpose is still quite unknown. And We all know that Bane wants Gotham to litterally fall! He also wants Batman to witness this... God, I hope we will see things in this film that no one dared to believe.

This.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I think so too.

The Dark Knight Rises is just the beginning. Hopefully the next films will be a continuation of what Nolan started instead of a reboot.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Lol.

There WILL be a reboot.

 

[Greens]

Every time someone comes up with a theory about the ending, I think of what Jonah or Chris said in that article. They thought of an amazing ending and stuck with it. Bamfer reports that the ending reduced grown men to tears.

There are three theories. He quits, he dies or he continues. I honestly don't think that an open ending (he continues as Batman) is something Chris and Jonah discussed all those years ago.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Are people really arguing about continuation? Won't happen. There will be a reboot, WB is already planning on it.

 

[Norek]

Are we sure the next films won't be a continuation?

Yes, we are.

 

[Jedm1991]

Are we sure the next films won't be a continuation?

Spoiler

This is a picture of Nolan, preparing to strangle you to death.

 

[Greens]

I'm sure that after the release of the reboot people are going to make connections to the Nolan films and claim that it's a continuation.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Every time someone comes up with a theory about the ending, I think of what Jonah or Chris said in that article. They thought of an amazing ending and stuck with it. Bamfer reports that the ending reduced grown men to tears.

There are three theories. He quits, he dies or he continues. I honestly don't think that an open ending (he continues as Batman) is something Chris and Jonah discussed all those years ago.

Agreed. His journey is coming to a close. They have known the ending for almost a decade, they have continued to talk about it being an "ending", and one said they got a lump in their throat when watching it.

Who knows exactly what is going to happen, but whatever it is, I'm excited and looking forward to seeing it!

 

[Norek]

I'm sure that after the release of the reboot people are going to make connections to the Nolan films and claim that it's a continuation.

Well, of course, considering the Nolan films are a continuation of the Schumacher films...

 

[joker1524]

i heard the ending is like return of the jedi....bruce and gotham are celebrating with tiny people and then right before the credits hit...u see 3 hologram ghostly figures...2 of them are bruces parents and the the last one is heath ledger

 

[Rogzilla]

I think so too.

The Dark Knight Rises is just the beginning. Hopefully the next films will be a continuation of what Nolan started instead of a reboot.

I disagree with this. I want this to be a finale, I just don't think you need to do that by killing the hero/having him quit. Its boring.

And I don't know where the whole "This is a curse" thing came from. He isn't Spider-Man, this wasn't something thrust upon him. He chose to become Batman, he chose to kill Harvy Dent and I think he will choose to remain as Batman.

How active he would need to be is the question. Obviously, it appears Gotham has been peaceful and Bruce Wayne wont have needed to put on the cowl for a while at the start of this film but he needed to and appears to do it grudgingly. So, again, having him quit at the end just doesn't work because he had already quit at the start of the film!

Nolan knows you don't have characters not grow/change over the course of the story. If Bruce starts off being "retired" then he isn't going to go back to being "retired" at the end of the film because that means nothing changed!

If Bane beats Batman to the near point of death, then having Batman die at the end will seem anticlimatic. I think a "death" ending is more likely than a "retirement" ending because it COULD work, but it is still a copout.

 

[Nevincer]

"Hey guys, we're ending the trilogy."

"Yes, we're ending the trilogy."

"Really, we're ending the trilogy. No more."

"Yes, and the ending is gonna be critical. We've planned it since the last two films."

*Shot of Batman on the skyscraper*

Audience: Wait a minute... that's it? Couldn't you have like... showed Batman doing that in Begins? Or TDK?

Nolan: Hope you enjoyed it. This is the end of Batman's adventures, not with a period, but an ellipses

Audience: Like the last two films?

Nolan: Four years of planning! Enjoy the new director's vision. Now to work on my Bond film.

...Yeah, I really don't see the point of this.

 

[elsewhere]

Spoiler

This is a picture of Nolan, preparing to strangle you to death.

Isn't Nolan supposed to be involved in some capacity with the next set of films? It's not really a stretch to assume they might be loosely based in the Nolanverse.

I just have a hard time seeing them retread the whole origin thing again so soon.

 

[lililatigresse]

This time it's not just about the ending of a film, but it's also the ending of the trilogy. So yeah, they'll probably keep the ending until the movie is released and not show any shots of it in the trailer.

I don't know, I think the most important is not the last shot but the meaning, the context of that shot.
So, they can still show us the last shot but if we don't know what it means it's like they gave us nothing. For example the end of Inception or TDK.

 

[Greens]

I disagree with this. I want this to be a finale, I just don't think you need to do that by killing the hero/having him quit. Its boring.

Why exactly are those possibilities boring, and how is your ending so exciting?

 

[joker1524]

"Hey guys, we're ending the trilogy."

"Yes, we're ending the trilogy."

"Really, we're ending the trilogy. No more."

"Yes, and the ending is gonna be critical. We've planned it since the last two films."

*Shot of Batman on the skyscraper*

Audience: Wait a minute... that's it? Couldn't you have like... showed Batman doing that in Begins? Or TDK?

Nolan: Hope you enjoyed it. This is the end of Batman's adventures, not with a period, but an ellipses

Audience: Like the last two films?

Nolan: Four years of planning! Enjoy the new director's vision. Now to work on my Bond film.

...Yeah, I really don't see the point of this.

i hope Nolan does a Metal Gear Solid Movie instead...sorry but bond just doesnt excite me anymore lol

 

[Rapunzel]

Well, of course, considering the Nolan films are a continuation of the Schumacher films...

Well, people not in the know can be dumb. Didn't I tell you guys about the time I had to explain to my sis that toby didn't get fired/replaced and that TASM isn't SM4?

 

[Jedm1991]

Isn't Nolan supposed to be involved in some capacity with the next set of films? It's not really a stretch to assume they might be loosely based in the Nolanverse.

I just have a hard time seeing them retread the whole origin thing again so soon.

He will more likely be in a "supervisor" kind of role like he is with MoS. He will probably also write the story for the next Batman as he has done for Superman.