The Walking Dead The Walking Dead Season 3 Episode 13 "Arrow on the Doorpost" Discussion Thread

[Darthphere]

So she talked with the Gov about the group, so what?

That conversation could have taken place anytime in the last few months she's spent with him.

Did you just assume she told him on the way to the meetup or something?

She should shut her damn mouth. She's always going off when she needs to be quiet. I mean, the second she met back with Merle she was giving away info about Hershel's farm and where they've been. It's not like Merle left the group on good terms. She's always giving out way too much information.

 

[Evelisse]

has it been said this has all been going on for months, haven't they only been doing the prison and woodbury stuff for only a few weeks? Really hard to follow the temp, couple episodes ago it looked like it was still hot muggy summer, when Rick was outside chasing ghost Lori, then now it looks like they are already wearing warmer clothing and jackets.

 

[Mikelus]

Oh okay.

Well I believe why it feels so out of place, on the show, is that they are poorly done.

And they're "poorly done" why? They're fine, there are much worse.

Regarding Rick's hesitation, taking into account the terrible job they've done with Michonne's character for the most part of the season, is understandable! But since you just can't trust the freaking Governor, is either war or the highway.

 

[floreairfoot]

She should shut her damn mouth. She's always going off when she needs to be quiet. I mean, the second she met back with Merle she was giving away info about Hershel's farm and where they've been. It's not like Merle left the group on good terms. She's always giving out way too much information.

Why is that too much information? The farm is burned down and run-over with walkers.

You still didn't tell me why it wasn't ok for her to talk about the group. She hadn't seen them in months; for all she knew they were long gone and/or dead.

 

[chamber-music]

Hershel needs to get a prosthetic leg. It would be badass if he got one from a walker

 

[Darthphere]

Why is that too much information? The farm is burned down and run-over with walkers.

You still didn't tell me why it wasn't ok for her to talk about the group. She hadn't seen them in months; for all she knew they were long gone and/or dead.

I'll answer with this, please tell me under what circumstances it was correct or come up in conversation that Shane and Lori hooked up and that Rick was probably going to be the father of some other dude's kid. Please, explain that to me. Sure she can talk about the group but honestly explain that to me. The truth of the matter is, it had to have come up in conversation after she met the group in the prison again because thats when she saw the baby, making her revelation of those details even worse.

 

[chamber-music]

Even if Milton survived this season and joined Rick's group he probably wouldn't last.

 

[Sawyer]

Andrea would've known nothing of Rick's baby being Shane's prior to coming to the prison. She's been flapping her trap and she's been doing it recently.

 

[Darthphere]

Andrea would've known nothing of Rick's baby being Shane's prior to coming to the prison. She's been flapping her trap and she's been doing it recently.

Exactly. Lori was barely pregnant on the farm. There was no way of knowing who the daddy was and what did he do. They were on the road for several months.

Also, I don't think that much time has passed honestly. At least not months. I think Andrea has only been in Woodbury for a few weeks at most. Unless there was some huge time jump I was unaware of.

 

[floreairfoot]

I don't know why you're stuck on it being "ok" or "correct" to bring up the Shane/Lori baby.

She only knew the baby survived, and Lori died, after visiting the prison. Obviously playing to the Gov's sympathetic side, letting him know it was a baby girl, and that rick had lost his wife. The Gov was keeping his dead daughter in a closet after all.

 

[Sawyer]

Then that would be a helluva leap for the Gov to assume Shane had anything to do with it.

 

[Darthphere]

I don't know why you're stuck on it being "ok" or "correct" to bring up the Shane/Lori baby.

She only knew the baby survived, and Lori died, after visiting the prison. Obviously playing to the Gov's sympathetic side, letting him know it was a baby girl, and that rick had lost his wife. The Gov was keeping his dead daughter in a closet after all.

Obviously playing to the Gov's sympathetic side? Are you serious? But you're not answering the question, how does that even come up in a conversation? The Governor and Rick are obviously at odds at that point after the assault on Woodbury. What exactly was she going to accomplish by telling the Governor that there was a newborn infant and a crazy guy running the prison? I mean honestly, when you have to go these lenghts to defend Andrea, you need to stop defending Andrea. "Obviously playing to the Gov's sympathetic side" get the **** out of here. Thats why she was standing over him with a knife right? Playing to his sympathetic side.

 

[floreairfoot]

Then that would be a helluva leap for the Gov to assume Shane had anything to do with it.

Of course she told him that, all in a play to the Gov's "sympathetic" side.

Can anyone explain the damage here?

 

[Darthphere]

Of course she told him that, all in a play to the Gov's "sympathetic" side.

Can anyone explain the damage here?

LMFAO! Unbelievable. This was Andrea's plan all along. She has this grand plan where by playing to his sympathetic side she was going to solve all the problems. Andrea is just too smart for the rest of us. Wow. Wow. I think I'm done with this conversation lol.

 

[floreairfoot]

I mean honestly, when you have to go these lenghts to defend Andrea, you need to stop defending Andrea. "Obviously playing to the Gov's sympathetic side" get the **** out of here. Thats why she was standing over him with a knife right? Playing to his sympathetic side.

Are you just as mad at Rick for not putting a bullet in his head?

I'm not really defending Andrea, I'm just giving my point of view.

LMFAO! Unbelievable. This was Andrea's plan all along. She has this grand plan where by playing to his sympathetic side she was going to solve all the problems. Andrea is just too smart for the rest of us. Wow. Wow. I think I'm done with this conversation lol.

She set a meeting and gave the Gov some details in an attempt to soften him up. How does this make anything worse?

The Gov already wants to kill everyone (and she pretty much knows this). It was her attempt to spare some lives in the town, and in Rick's group.

She knows it failed, but she tried.

 

[Sakuraba]

She should shut her damn mouth. She's always going off when she needs to be quiet. I mean, the second she met back with Merle she was giving away info about Hershel's farm and where they've been. It's not like Merle left the group on good terms. She's always giving out way too much information.

I bet Glenn gave up the juicy details under duress, and Andrea had nothing to do with this.

 

[Darthphere]

I bet Glenn gave up the juicy details under duress, and Andrea had nothing to do with this.

What?

 

[Schlosser85]

We saw Glenn's interrogation. Merle didn't give a **** about babies and who knocked up Lori, he wanted to know about the prison.

 

[Sawyer]

I bet Glenn gave up the juicy details under duress, and Andrea had nothing to do with this.

Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Keep that Sakuraba trollin'
... blah blah blah
RAWHIDE!

 

[Sakuraba]

That was the best Andrea Apologist defense I could come up with. It wasn't her that gave up the tabloid stories to Woodbury. It was Glenn!

 

[Sakuraba]

Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Keep that Sakuraba trollin'
... blah blah blah
RAWHIDE!

You messed up the melody with too many syllables.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Lily Adler]

And they're "poorly done" why? They're fine, there are much worse.

Regarding Rick's hesitation, taking into account the terrible job they've done with Michonne's character for the most part of the season, is understandable! But since you just can't trust the freaking Governor, is either war or the highway.

Well first it went on for too long, IMO. They seem mostly there to titilate viewers. I enjoyed the humor such as Glenn can't perform in front of Walkers or Andrea apparently honking Shane's horn. But the spontaneity behind them seems forced rather than a natural storyline progression. I personally think the latest scene should have been passionate and loving as it was supposed to symbolize the re-igniting of the spark between Glenn and Maggie, but the scene came off like a quickie in a backroom of a night club bathroom. Again, IMO.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Sawyer]

Do you want me to flip this table, Kane? Do you want me to flip it?

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!