The Wrestling Thread Has More Hype Than WrestleMania XXIX - - Part 92

[JabarR]

I know there are many face to heel turns people would like to see Cena, Orton, etc, but what heel to face turn(s) would you guys want to see? I can see Ziggler as HUGE face, especially if he cashes in on Swagger for the belt.

AJ needs to be face again and ditch those two stupid idiots, Ziggler will not make as a face, now Kaitlyn could make a good heel.

 

[Van Petrol]

First time watching WWE Main Event,The theme is Shinedown's Diamond Eyes and that's..AWESOME!

Agreed. In my opinion, that should be the Raw theme.

 

[Metallo]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini
F4Wonline.com has some preliminary times for WrestleMania 29 segments that don't include the entrances.

Chris Jericho vs. Fandango has been given 10 minutes

Kane and Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler and Big E Langston has been given 12 to 15 minutes

Ryback vs. Mark Henry has been given 12 minutes

The Shield vs. Randy Orton, Big Show and Sheamus has been given 15 minutes

CM Punk vs. The Undertaker has been given 20 minutes

Jack Swagger vs. Alberto Del Rio has been given 15 minutes

Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar has been given 20 to 30 minutes

The Rock vs. John Cena has been given 25 to 30 minutes

Diddy's musical performance has been given 8 minutes

WWE Hall of Famers coming out has been given 7 minutes

The show opener and National Anthem has been given 7 minutes

Other segments throughout the show have been given around 10 minutes

Wow...that time for the Diddy song sure could go somewhere else. Like IC or US title matches.

I'd actually give Mark and Ryblow less time. The less time they have to fill the better. The longer the match is the more time where it could become boring.

The time for Taker vs Punk sounds about right. Punk may be pretty worn out and Takers been banged up for years. Its enough time to deliver a solid bout but not too long that any injuries will be as noticable in slowing them down or limiting them. The longer it goes the harder its going to be on the big man. We all know what this match is about. I doubt it'll be a fast paced technical classic. It'll be a brawl or a tooth and claw fight for survival from Punk. Something like that shouldn't take a whole lot of time.

Originally Posted by Kaleb
will be either 20 min of Taker just destroying Punk, or Punk destroying Taker for 20 min then Taker doing a ''bad super cena impression'' and rebounding back and pinning Taker.

Thats what I've been thinking. They've REAAAALLY built this up to a case of Taker just punishing Punk and Punk just totally getting whats coming to him. Will this be a more one sided fight or more even?

Originally Posted by Kaleb
This is great news, I really hope it means Owen will finally be inducted into the Hall of Fame (perhaps next yr)

The news about Foleys induction being left off TV makes the HOF look even less important and even more lame to me. If Owen does go in hopefully they've worked something out and his kids get the royalty money from anything made off dvds and merchandise. Hopefully Martha Hart and WWE are one the same page. Owens family should come first before anything or anyone and what they want.

And for whoever said everyone has a price:this lawsuit has been about money fromt the f***ing start. Its not about having a price. Martha Hart has always said she felt WWE was wrongly making money off Owens name and likeness without properly dealing with her and his estate. She doesn't want it...but shes upset that they've been trying to make it that way.

Originally Posted by Kaleb

oh lawd

Mmmmmmmmmm Yeah...that'll do.

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866
I'm hoping they induct Owen and the rest of the Hart Foundation (Bulldog, Pillman, and Neidhart) together.

Most of the Hart Foundation deserves to go in seperately but your way is probably the best way to get some of them in and take a little of the sting off the fact that most of them are now deceased. Bret And Neidhart could handle the acceptance along with Harry Smith and anyone else who wants to join in.

The interesting part is if the Hart Foundation goes in as a group I guess Bret gets to be a double inductee like Flair. I guess the same will be true about HBK (and HHH) if DX goes in as a group.

Originally Posted by Slushy
Zoe's a b*tch. She deserves to be another notch on Batista's belt.

I have no idea if she's a b**** or not but I am tired of her being in so many big sci fi franchises like she's the only talented black actress out there. Not many roles for these girls anyway so it'd be nice if they were spread out. Surely there are more that tried out for some of these parts that were just as good. Hollywood loves to go with one person for everything like they are the only choice. No risk or originality.

Originally Posted by The Batman
Its the wrestling thread...on here its Hoe until proven innocent.

Unless your name is Trish Stratus.

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
- WWE has a new poll on their website asking fans to help name a potential reality TV show for the Divas. They wrote:

"WWE is contemplating a potential Divas reality show: It's a new reality series following the life and times of eight WWE Divas that lets viewers into the Divas locker room, behind the scenes on the road, and inside the personal lives of some of the most glitzy, gritty and glamorous celebrities in all of entertainment. So, WWE Universe, what would you name this show?"

"Divas: Not A Single F*** Was Given"

Originally Posted by AntMan
I don't think Fandango is horrible by any means, he's just not a good talker or an exceptional wrestler from what I've seen. I put him in the same category as guys like Brian Christopher and Scott Taylor based on what I've seen on NXT. He may surprise us though.

Annoying Midcard heel/comedy act is a good fit for him so far. Right now I'm not really seeing anything more out of him but I guess that could change. The gimmick is just so damn corny though. I could never take him seriously as a bigger deal as long as he's doing exactly what he's doing.

Originally Posted by bullets
We've already seen Shawn come out of retirement to face Triple H. They had a great rivalry , but I don't see a need to revisit that. Also it would make Shawn's retirement match at WM26 pointless. Shawn's loss was the basis of the Triple H vs Undertaker feud at WM27. Then they had an "end of an era" match together. I don't there's much more to say between these two. Let someone else do the honor of ending "The Game".

Ditto. They feuded off and on for two years. The book should stay closed on this one. There really is nothing more to say...unlike Taker vs HBK which did get cut short in 98.

Originally Posted by AntMan
As far as the surprises go, I'll believe it when I see it.

Once again I think you said everything that needs to be said.

Originally Posted by the_ultimate_evil
unless cena goes heel then a feud with ryback will be pointless.

a heel ryback would not worth unless they have a good few months to build up his turn, plus ryback trying to cut a heel promo, what will he be about his food tray not being big enough, the buffet closing early

Originally Posted by strikezone89
With the news of Cena vs Ryback being the next feud talked about- one can hope they turn Cena heel. I think that they have been wanting to find a new babyface in Ryback and him feuding with a heel Cena would be great!

Problem is, fellas, Ryback STILL sucks as a face. I mean his whole act and his skills in general. Feuding with Cena is not going to just easily change that. He still needs to learn how to cut a better promo if he wants to be a top babyface. All the top babyfaces had to. He's not even on Hogans level there and he's not badass enough to not talk the way Goldberg did.

He's nothing more than a knock off/hybrid of Goldberg and Warrior. You either have the it factor and the aura/mystique or you don't. Those guys had it. Ryc*ck doesn't. He's been around long enough to show us if he has it (even if he sucks in the ring) but he still hasn't. He's as bad or worse than Cena in terms of character the only difference is he hasn't been overexposed as long or as badly forced down peoples throats yet. Rysuck is still nothing more than a corporate creation. If anyone would benefit from a heel turn its him. That would at least lessen the comparisons to Goldberg and as a monster heel they could throw some agile faces at him to get him over.

There are plenty of other guys they could throw at a heel Cena. Bryan could really benefit from working with a heel Cena. Hell they could turn Ziggler face if they have to. He's got a lot more going for him than Ryclone.

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
We noted before that WWE has signed a mini wrestler from Mexico to a developmental deal. That wrestler is Mascarita Dorada, who may have been the best mini wrestler in Mexico. Here is a photo of him in Mexico:

A midget AND Mexican wrestler? Lets see how long it takes WWE to ruin this guy. With those elements I bet they can turn him into something annoyingly awful in record time.

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider
The trio should walk into Raw the night after Mania with the WHC, the Tag titles and the Divas title.

Agreed. That would put them over big. Dolph and AJ in particular should get a rub like that. The best part is Dolph and AJ can really do something special with all that gold. I'd say in McMahon/Helsmley fashion but they could potentially do even better because AJ is a much better wrestler. Of course...Dolph will never get the kind of heel push HHH got back then. Thats the sad part.

Originally Posted by strikezone89
The big question here- As of now I think the majority of people say that WM card is a letdown this year.

If the three things you listed were to happen- would that change your overall feel for the show? I think if those three things happened it may be one of it the most memorable WM in history which would be amazing considering how we feel before the show

If only they'd built up Taker vs Punk better. On paper the matchup is great but the build and timing have all been so weak. Any other time, with the right effort put in, a lot of people would be singing a different tune.

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866
It really is bad. Especially considering he was being touted (no pun intended) as the star inductee for this class, prior the Sammartino agreeing to be inducted.

The worst part is Foley literally broke his body giving the WWE some of its most amazing and memorable moments EVER. To the fans he's far far FAR more beloved than Trump. Any other year Mick could headline a class himself. Vince should be ashamed. Foleys induction deserves to be televised so fans can see it free and ASAP.

The reason they are doing this is obvious. Trump is a more well known mainstream celeb and they want non fans to tune in. They are probably hoping to get some mainstream press from Trumps induction too so it'll be televised.

They also know they can make people even more willing to buy the dvd/blu ray by making inductions like Foleys exlusive to home video. "Hey fans if you want to see the WHOLE HOF ceremony and Foleys speech you've got to buy the dvd!"

Originally Posted by Lobo
I know there are many face to heel turns people would like to see Cena, Orton, etc, but what heel to face turn(s) would you guys want to see? I can see Ziggler as HUGE face, especially if he cashes in on Swagger for the belt.

I'd love to see Ziggler turn eventually. Great ring workers like him also make great faces. See Bret, Shawn, Benoit, Eddie, etc.

Del Rio and Ziggler NEED to become heels again. As faces they are just the sh**s. Being faces is not natural fits for them. Del Rio works better as an arrogant pr*** and Miz is a natural at being an annoying *****e.

I'd probably turn Ryback heel too.

Originally Posted by Kaleb
I would love to see you fued with Brock too Punk.

I think everyone would. I'd love to see Brock smash Big E into Steven Q Roidkel brand ring canvas in a tag match. Brock vs Bryan would be a real treat if Hell No is still together by then.

Originally Posted by the dmg
I barely got through the first hour of Raw yesterday, it felt like it was two hours passing before I checked. These three hour Raws are killing me.

Even Cole said three hours is too long. Its just so hard to stay focused on whats going on without zoning out. Especially if the show is crap.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Wow...that time for the Diddy song sure could go somewhere else. Like IC or US title matches.

Yeah, but you need to get a big time celebrity like Diddy to bring in more fans.



**awkward pause**



It's 1998 now, right?

 

[The Sage]

New CM Punk interview with ESPN:

Another good interview from Punk.

Kinda messed up that he views wrestling Undertaker at Mania as a consolation prize, but I see where he's coming from. He wants that headlining main-event spot he's busted his butt all year to get.

He will very likely steal the show unless another match steps up to the plate.

 

[Slushy]

If HBK came back to work with to Rock and Brock then jobbed to Punk, I'd be happy as a clam.

Him and Austin calling it quits never sat right with me as it didn't help the business.

 

[Van Petrol]

If HBK came back to work with to Rock and Brock then jobbed to Punk, I'd be happy as a clam.

Him and Austin calling it quits never sat right with me as it didn't help the business.

I'm not sure what Shawn's reasons were, but I can only presume he thought it was time to call it quits. Austin, as far as I know, didn't have any intention to call it a day when he did, but the condition of his health forced him to make the decision that enough was enough. He probably shouldn't have even wrestled the match against Rock at WM19 after the bad turn he had the night before, but he did as he didn't want to stink out the joint and let everyone down. You could see he was struggling to get through in that match.

 

[Slushy]

Yeah, I rewatched it a few nights ago. The match wasn't very good, but I couldn't help, but get a little misty eyed after Austin walked back up the aisle while Jim Ross was giving his condolences.

Metallo, its a true story. She's a difficult person to work with. That's why she wasn't brought back for the Pirates sequels.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

First time watching WWE Main Event,The theme is Shinedown's Diamond Eyes and that's..AWESOME!

The show had one match and the rest of the show was recaps, wtf WWE?

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Bit of fantasy booking:

I’d like it if Langston took out Kane before the match and they made it Langston & Ziggler vs. Bryan with the titles on the line. Stack the odds against Bryan with AJ at ringside, Kane limps down halfway through the match, but it’s not enough, and Langston & Ziggler win the titles. Del Rio beats Swagger, Swagger beats the crap out of him with a chair, Ziggler cashes in and wins the title.

Fandango refuses to wrestle Jericho because Jericho can’t say his name, Ziggler mocks Vickie about being a double champion, so she sticks him in with Jericho, whose match with Fandango didn’t go ahead. Jericho looks to have Ziggler beat when Fandango costs him the match, and Ziggler can like the second coming because he won 3 matches at WrestleMania.

Love it. And to take it a step further. ADR continues feud with Swagger while Team Hell No goes after Ziggler eventually becoming a triple threat match where Ziggler retains but THN breaks up.

 

[The Sage]

If HBK came back to work with to Rock and Brock then jobbed to Punk, I'd be happy as a clam.

Him and Austin calling it quits never sat right with me as it didn't help the business.

I'm not sure what Shawn's reasons were, but I can only presume he thought it was time to call it quits. Austin, as far as I know, didn't have any intention to call it a day when he did, but the condition of his health forced him to make the decision that enough was enough. He probably shouldn't have even wrestled the match against Rock at WM19 after the bad turn he had the night before, but he did as he didn't want to stink out the joint and let everyone down. You could see he was struggling to get through in that match.

That's exactly it. Shawn felt it was time, and didn't want to end up like a lot of wrestlers who stay beyond their time. His family came first over his career, and wanted spend more time with them. Even better is that Shawn went out as a very capable performer. His ability hadn't waned at all.

Austin's health is the reason for his retiring as you said. Had the piledriver accident from '97 not occurred, he would've wrestled a few more years, and would've been capable of returning for the occasional match.

 

[The Sage]

- The Associated Press has a new article up on WWE Champion The Rock to promote WrestleMania 29. The article features quotes from Rock, John Cena and Booker T.

Rock said his WrestleMania 29 match with Cena is the biggest of his career. He added that the rematch with Cena made sense because it was still the biggest money match WWE could offer. The article notes that Rock called the shots for his return this year and he chose Cena to feud with for WrestleMania.

Cena put Rock over with these comments:

"I always knew he loved the business. He loves it so much now that he really is the busiest person in the history of the WWE. He's everywhere at once. He can do everything and still compete as WWE champion. I wish we had one guy with 10 percent of his vision and his aspiration. When he gets a small opportunity, he kicks the damn door down and owns the horse. Often times here, we have superstars that remind me of a hamster on the treadmill and those are the guys that usually complain. I don't take too kindly to them. I'm fortunate Rock's here and I'm glad he's here. He can show up whenever he wants."

Rock also put over Cena:

"He's been the No. 1 guy in the company for many years now, and has managed to maintain a genuine, optimistic love for the business. Often times, inherently, what the business creates is pessimism over time, and unhappiness. John has been able to stay above that, not get lost in the garbage, and not get lost in the noise. He's very focused, very committed. There's an X-factor about John that moves an audience."

The article made mention of a potential Rock vs. Brock Lesnar match at WrestleMania 30 but pointed out that Rock says he still hasn't decided if he will wrestle in 2014.

- Dolph Ziggler spoke with Comcast and half-jokingly said that he hopes both Rock and Cena get booed at WrestleMania 29. He said, "I don't want the cheers and the boos. I hope it's 90 percent boos letting them know that this 'Once in a Lifetime' match is happening again and that I or someone else should be the main event."

He then got more serious and said he is glad Rock's back in WWE, noting, "He's been pretty cool about everything. And it was pretty neat, he told me he liked my work which is a pretty cool deal because you know he's watching the shows when he's traveling. Like I said, having him back, it makes me a little mad. But, I love the business sense of it, having him come back and getting the crowd behind him. When he's promoting movies, we're holding down the fort, waiting for him to come back."

Ziggler also hinted that he may cash in against the winner of Alberto Del Rio and Jack Swagger "if both guys are out cold."

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/367069876.php
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...-Cena-Get-Booed,-Hogan-Talks-WrestleMania.htm

 

[Dr. Evil]

Metallo, its a true story. She's a difficult person to work with. That's why she wasn't brought back for the Pirates sequels.

And they end up replacing her with Naomie Harris.

 

[E-Man]

That's exactly it. Shawn felt it was time, and didn't want to end up like a lot of wrestlers who stay beyond their time. His family came first over his career, and wanted spend more time with them. Even better is that Shawn went out as a very capable performer. His ability hadn't waned at all.

Austin's health is the reason for his retiring as you said. Had the piledriver accident from '97 not occurred, he would've wrestled a few more years, and would've been capable of returning for the occasional match.

I might be the biggest HBK mark on this site, but I'm glad he retired when he did. I don't even want him to come back either because it's nice seeing him as a coherent speaker that doesn't look all beat up and broken down because he's still trying to pay off some debts. Too many wrestlers have died that I've grown up watching, and I am glad to see Shawn ride off into the sunset on a couple of classics with The Undertaker. Not to mention that his second run after retirement was so great that I felt like he already gave me what I wanted in his potential. Plus some of the matches I'm just dying to see him in can't happen like another match with Bret and Eddie Guerrero.

 

[The Sage]

I might be the biggest HBK mark on this site, but I'm glad he retired when he did. I don't even want him to come back either because it's nice seeing him as a coherent speaker that doesn't look all beat up and broken down because he's still trying to pay off some debts. Too many wrestlers have died that I've grown up watching, and I am glad to see Shawn ride off into the sunset on a couple of classics with The Undertaker. Not to mention that his second run after retirement was so great that I felt like he already gave me what I wanted in his potential. Plus some of the matches I'm just dying to see him in can't happen like another match with Bret and Eddie Guerrero.

I think Hunter Rider may match you as the biggest HBK mark on the site.

I agree, I'm glad he left when he did. There are some classics I wish could've occurred, even with a couple of people on the current roster, but I can imagine those in my head with satisfaction.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The Honky Tonk Man, who held the Intercontinental Championship for a record 454 days, is back with WWE.

The 60-year-old announced Thursday that he has come to terms on a multi-year contract with the sports-entertainment organization.

"I am honored to be back with the WWE and am very excited to be teaming up with WWE again for some more Shake, Rattle and Roll," said The Honky Tonk Man in a message released via his representative on Facebook.

The Honky Tonk Man personally added on Twitter, "HTM back in the game. Inks multi yr. WWE deal. Never say Never in #WWE."

The Honky Tonk Man last appeared as a regular character for WWE in 1997, as a manager and color commentator. After competing for several years on the independent circuit, he resurfaced on last month's "Old School" episode of Raw. Following a match pitting Brodus Clay and Tensai against 3MB, the legendary wrestler smashed Heath Slater over the head with a guitar. He then danced with Clay and Tensai to his signature "Cool, Cocky, Bad" theme song.

 

[Anno_Domini]

- WWE officials have discussed having Ryback feud with John Cena for the WWE Title after WrestleMania 29. WWE planted the seeds for the feud when Cena eliminated Ryback to win the Royal Rumble this year.

I don't know if anyone would have the entire crowd behind him if this feud happens.

- It's said that we can expect several surprises for WrestleMania 29 since a number of turns have been talked about, particularly faces to heel.

Well Orton turning heel won't be a surprise since everyone has expected it to happen for a while now. Cena turning heel in the end...that would be magnificent. Imagine Cena shaking hands with Johnny Ace who costs Rock the title at WM. Lol.

punk just tweeted

Oh ****...Living Colour playing the theme...that'll be sweet!

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/15368/a-john-cena-heel-turn-goldust-at-wrestlemania-lesnar

Vince is open to the idea rather than going through a roid rage of the boring chants? That is a shocker. I like how it took a boring chant for Vince to even think of the idea

 

[Lobo]

I'd love to see the Primetime Players have a face run. Hell almost anything to get them more spotlight time. Key word is almost because I sadly remember Cryme Tyme.

So do I. I was at MSG and we marked for them HUGE when they opened the show. They need a ttile run, and the Uso's too, whom I'd like to see built up as the top face tag team after the inevitable Hell no split. I could see either of the PTP as singles stars too Titus especially.

I'd rather see a Titus singles run as a heel.

It's amazing how far he has come IMO. I could see him and Kane feud for the US title.

I think Team Hell No splitting up is too predictable. I hope Langston will turn on Ziggler and that will set up a face turn and possible cash in.

Then of course I'd like to see Punk turn face , but that wouldn't make sense following him dumping ashes on Undertaker. Unless he says it was fake and was trying to outwit The Undertaker.

Punk should be a face as he is cherred no matter what he does. I really hate Langston. While I love Reigns in the Shield, I think he'd have been an awesome fit as Ziggler's heavy with his look size, and presence.

Other than Cena...Ziggler as a face for sure. I can see him as the top guy. Also would like to see him using the superkick as a finisher.

Don't mind Sheamus as a face, but he needs to stop trying to be Cena 2.0 with his lame jokes and goofiness.

Yeah the superkick would be awesome as he has a great one. Big show and some others have campaigned for that to be his finisher. The ZigZag is hit or miss at best. I'm a big Sheamus fan and liked him as the blood thirsty Celtic warrior who was wide eyed and ready for a fight at all times. I don't like that they turned him into a Casper Cena. Let Sheamus be Sheamus

I'd love to see Ziggler turn eventually. Great ring workers like him also make great faces. See Bret, Shawn, Benoit, Eddie, etc.

Del Rio and Ziggler NEED to become heels again. As faces they are just the sh**s. Being faces is not natural fits for them. Del Rio works better as an arrogant pr*** and Miz is a natural at being an annoying *****e.

I'd probably turn Ryback heel too.

Agreed on Ziggler, and the rest. I really dug HR's idea for a heel Ryback with Jim Mitchell as his manager. Now, I probably hate Ryback less than most in this thread. I believe the ideal spot for him would be in a tag team with someone like Zack Ryder. Ryder could handle the mic to help the feuds as well as do the most of the ring work and have Ryback come in and do all his big power moves to finish the matches.

I think everyone would. I'd love to see Brock smash Big E into Steven Q Roidkel brand ring canvas in a tag match. Brock vs Bryan would be a real treat if Hell No is still together by then.

I've been hoping to see Brock destroy Ryback, and Big E for awhile. I want Bryan feuding for the WWE title dammit! It's too bad Mark will be jobbing at mania. He should have returned at the Rumble and had the crowd reaction determine whether his return would be as a face or heel. Henry vs Brock would have been fun. i'm still hoping for Sheamus vs Brock as I know it would steal the show whenever they wrestled

 

[SpideyVille]

Looks like WWE has decided to air Foley's speech after all.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/15420/update-wwe-to-air-mick-foley-hof-speech

 

[Van Petrol]

I might be the biggest HBK mark on this site, but I'm glad he retired when he did. I don't even want him to come back either because it's nice seeing him as a coherent speaker that doesn't look all beat up and broken down because he's still trying to pay off some debts. Too many wrestlers have died that I've grown up watching, and I am glad to see Shawn ride off into the sunset on a couple of classics with The Undertaker. Not to mention that his second run after retirement was so great that I felt like he already gave me what I wanted in his potential. Plus some of the matches I'm just dying to see him in can't happen like another match with Bret and Eddie Guerrero.

I agree with this. It's how I feel about Austin too now. I don't really want him to come back, as I feel he went out at the right moment and to the right opponent.

 

[Van Petrol]

I think Hunter Rider may match you as the biggest HBK mark on the site.

I agree, I'm glad he left when he did. There are some classics I wish could've occurred, even with a couple of people on the current roster, but I can imagine those in my head with satisfaction.

I guess if E-Man and Hunter are the biggest HBK marks here then I must be the biggest Austin one here.

I agree. I always wanted to see him and Austin go at it properly without the injuries each of them were carrying at the time when they wrestled at WM14.

 

[Wheels]

The Honky Tonk Man, who held the Intercontinental Championship for a record 454 days, is back with WWE.

The 60-year-old announced Thursday that he has come to terms on a multi-year contract with the sports-entertainment organization.

Ugh....

 

[Van Petrol]

I've been hoping to see Brock destroy Ryback, and Big E for awhile. I want Bryan feuding for the WWE title dammit! It's too bad Mark will be jobbing at mania. He should have returned at the Rumble and had the crowd reaction determine whether his return would be as a face or heel. Henry vs Brock would have been fun. i'm still hoping for Sheamus vs Brock as I know it would steal the show whenever they wrestled

Same.

 

[Van Petrol]

That's exactly it. Shawn felt it was time, and didn't want to end up like a lot of wrestlers who stay beyond their time. His family came first over his career, and wanted spend more time with them. Even better is that Shawn went out as a very capable performer. His ability hadn't waned at all.

Yeah, that's what I thought were his reasons why.

Austin's health is the reason for his retiring as you said. Had the piledriver accident from '97 not occurred, he would've wrestled a few more years, and would've been capable of returning for the occasional match.

I agree. It's a damn shame.

 

[SpideyVille]

Damn, I'm only 24, but seeing this makes me feel old. I always loved watching Shane O'Mac.