The Wrestling Thread Has More Hype Than WrestleMania XXIX - - Part 92

Status
Not open for further replies.
I know it's been done countless times before, but who do you guys think the future face of the company will be when Cena is finally replaced?

I can't see Punk being an option as he's about the same age as Cena, and he's spoke about retiring in the next few years.

I honestly don't think that the person is in the WWE right now. I think that Cena is going to be in the spot he is for the next 4-6 years, and by the time he's completely gone the person to replace him will have only been in the WWE for a year or two at that point.
 
Sheamus or Punk.

Re: HHH's theme

I always liked "King Of Kings" best. Shame Hunter never comes out to it.
 
Last edited:
I agree that Ziggler can do a face turn, easy. He's got all the tools--the only piece of the puzzle that needs to fall into place, in my opinion, is the "My name isn't Dolph Ziggler, it's Nick Nemeth" promo.

I don't think he needs to go with his original name, but I do agree with the idea of him making a declarative promo that sets the stage for his ME persona.
 
Does Spike do re-runs for Impact?,I forgot to set it on DVR tonight and can't watch to show right now
 
Whoever said Daniel Bryan should be feuding for the WWE title and whoever said he should be feuding against heel Cena are spot on.

If Punk is the new Austin/Savage and if Cena is the new Hogan, I think Bryan could be a Bret Hart type. He has gotten over despite WWE's crappy booking and he is obviously the best technical wrestler in the company.

I also agree with turning Ziggler face eventually. I have faith that he could pull it off. His moveset serves the face role perfectly as well.

Plus, if they get behind Ziggler as a face, Ziggler would actually win matches for once.

I like the way you think...:up:

To think we got all of these great moments, first WWE title wins and historic title reigns with the Spinner. Too bad it couldn't have been a more traditional and classy design that all of this history could have been associated with.

IYd4oq5.jpg

That's an impressive list...minus the Miz.

There's so much bling on that belt you don't notice that it has an eagle at the top of the centerpiece.

I agree that Ziggler can do a face turn, easy. He's got all the tools--the only piece of the puzzle that needs to fall into place, in my opinion, is the "My name isn't Dolph Ziggler, it's Nick Nemeth" promo.

I don't think he needs to go with his original name, but I do agree with the idea of him making a declarative promo that sets the stage for his ME persona.

They should at least get rid of the Ziggler surname.
 
- Trish Stratus spoke with Diva Dirt about her WWE Hall of Fame induction this Saturday and more. Check out the highlights:

On why she picked Stephanie to induct her: "Getting a nod to be in the WWE Hall of Fame, it's a look back at your career and at the end of the day, there would have been no career, no opportunity, no revamping of the women's division if Stephanie wasn't behind it all. When we feuded, there's something about when you have an experience with someone that you bond with them. When we had our feud, we bonded then and we remained close ever since. She's just always supportive of showcasing a strong, powerful woman. There would be no division and none of the women would have gotten the push that we needed, or the encouragement we needed. She and I have remained friends. I've watched her evolve into a businesswoman. We were at the same level — green workers having fun wrestling and then she really just got behind the scenes and became a businesswoman. It's very empowering to see the position she has now. I retired and went into the business world and with all my endeavors, it's a tough world for a woman. I admire her greatly and respect her greatly."

On her speech: "My speech has been swirling in my head for, I guess since December since I knew. It's an obvious list to me, I mean, I could probably give you my speech right now if you say, 'Who do you wanna thank?' [Laughs] It's sort of been swirling in my head forever and I put it on paper finally. My biggest fear is I'm going to miss something or you don't have enough time to finish, so that's kinda like my biggest [worry] - it's the time constraints, because if you know, I do babble at times, so I'm going to have to watch that. [...] You speak from the heart but then you start to go, 'OK, this is also a production', so I need to make sure I don't babble my way around. Of course, there is the magic of television where they can cut it down or whatever they need to cut down, but at the end of the day, I'd be like 'Aw, I didn't want them to cut that part.' [Laughs] So it's all on paper now, which I'm happy to say, and I'm very happy with it."

On AJ Lee: "Aw, I love watching her. There was a point where she was speaking on television every night and I was like 'Yes, love it.' Love to see her, love to see her progress but then the I was like 'I miss seeing her in the ring though, can we get her back in the ring?' But the opportunity that she had to be able to develop her persona was fantastic. It's been a long time since we've seen a woman be able to develop that, so that's going to serve her well. She's in the ring more and more now and we know who she is on the outside of the ring. That's money right there, and that's how you have those characters that have that longevity. I am a huge fan of hers, I think she's adorable and I just want to pinch her cheeks and then kick her butt, in whatever order."


http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...n-to-Induct-Her-into-the-WWE-Hall-of-Fame.htm
 
Man, I haven't been NOT excited for a Wrestlemania like this since 27.

The success of Wrestlemania IMO goes by how strong a match is built up, if the match delivers, and if the right guy wins.

That's what separates classics like Austin Vs. Hart, Hogan Vs. Maivia and Angle Vs. Michaels from failures like Goldberg Vs. Lesnar, Helmsley Vs. Orton, and Cena Vs. Miz.

Wrestlemania is like the Star Trek movies. Most of the odd numbered ones are either not that good (9, 13, 15) or just flat out sucked (11, 25, 27). Mostly due to bad booking. And no, one match doesn't save a show.

To think we got all of these great moments, first WWE title wins and historic title reigns with the Spinner. Too bad it couldn't have been a more traditional and classy design that all of this history could have been associated with.

It makes me so mad to see all those champions with the Bling belt. It's John Cena's therefore he should be in the middle and Edge along with Orton are the only guys who should've had it since they are the ones who stole his belt. UGH!
 
Yes. The instrumental is awesome. I love that guitar riff in the middle. The lyrics over the top of it killed it for me though. :csad:
I normally prefer instrumental versions too, but this is one where I really liked with the lyrics. It really seemed to fit who Triple H was and who he was becoming plus it seemed to transition well from the DX theme.
 
I love Trish but I call ******** on her "picking" Steph to induct her into the HOF.

Glad to see Mick will be given the respect he deserves.

I wonder if Rock can walk straight after Cena stuck his head so far up his ass in that latest circle jerk interview with the two.

On the whole HBK and Austin returning to the ring talk, IMO both should stay retired, both guys went out at Mania against classic rivals. Enough looking backwards, lets get the next batch of stars out in front.

I know there are many face to heel turns people would like to see Cena, Orton, etc, but what heel to face turn(s) would you guys want to see? I can see Ziggler as HUGE face, especially if he cashes in on Swagger for the belt.

Let Ziggler use the superkick as his finish and he will get over huge as a face, and turn Punk face but leave the bulk of his dickish personality in tact.

Nice to see Punk sporting Cesaro's shirt at the WrestleMania press conference. :D :up:

Gotta love Punk, just another little dig at the fact a great wrestler and US champion is left off Mania in order to accommodate some crappy rapper.

Agreed. That would put them over big. Dolph and AJ in particular should get a rub like that. The best part is Dolph and AJ can really do something special with all that gold. I'd say in McMahon/Helsmley fashion but they could potentially do even better because AJ is a much better wrestler. Of course...Dolph will never get the kind of heel push HHH got back then. Thats the sad part.

It would be huge for them all and put a fresh heel front and center for Smackdown, but sadly it seems the focus is on the ludicrous idea that Del Rio can be a tenth of the star Eddie was.

Hunter ain't no bigger HBK mark than me! He doesn't think he's cute, or knows he's sexy, or got the looks to drive the girls wild!

hbkdealwithit.gif

:fuuny: Ahhhhh Baywatch!
 
Never realized how much I'd miss Beth...
 
tumblr_loutigtvOL1qka8oxo1_500.gif


Kenta Kobashi is not amused.

Look at him no selling. :oldrazz:

Thats how I feel too. His mix of speed, agility, size, and power is pretty much unmatched. Even now. And he has that aura of a badass. Just because a guy is big doesn't mean he always has it (Big E).

Brock Lesnar is a commodity. A rare one. If they are going to use him it should be wisely. And now that he has some actual tough guy cred as a shoot fighter? Forget it. He shouldn't be jobbing to second tier has beens.

This is pretty much where Triple H being oldschool and being about business falls apart, he is EXACTLY like Hogan in that he equates what is best for business with what is best for his own worked legacy. At least in Hogan's case he did have years of being the legitimate biggest draw in wrestling and he is the biggest star in the history of the industry.

As an oldschool fan and a businessman Triple H surely realizes that the whole aura and persona of Lesnar crosses over into the real world, a rarity as you say, and the essence of that is he doesn't lose fights unless there are exceptional circumstances. Triple H beating Brock is like Kyle Reese killing The Terminator in the club at the start of the movie or Apollo Creed beating Ivan Drago, it makes no sense..

I think you're right. As a whole it didn't make any sense. With ALL of the McMahons resources why did they NEED to align with Austin? Are people telling me Vince McMahon had no other way to get his way? He could have put an army behind Triple H to wear the Rock down. He could have put a bounty on him. The McMahons MAKE the rules...on the spot sometimes. How many times have we seen that? They could have put Rock into a no win scenario. Triple H was also at his peak. Austin wasn't. Hunter would have stood a better chance physically. As far as history McMahon hated Austin far more than he hated Rock. You'd thinkt he idea of teaming with him would make the bile rise up in his throat.

I can believe Austin losing a step and being desperate enough to cheat to win but should the desire have been THAT strong since he'd already beat Rock at the big show? It was more about having to prove he still had it after injuries and time off but even still...the alliance with McMahon just didn't ring true. And like HR said he'd already come out on top over the Rock just months before. At his core Austin aligns with no one. He would have turned on Vince as soon as he helped him win the belt not stayed aligned with him.
That's the two major failures in the logic of the angle. Austin is a prideful man, no way he makes that deal until he actually loses to The Rock, and from Vince's side Austin has to become the type of champion he wants representing the WWF, thus the deal makes sense for Vince as finally he's won, he's bought Austin's soul and made him do things his way.

Neither of these things happened.
 
Triple H is capable of doing truly great things for the business, but his ego gets in the way. He's kinda like Verne Gagne in the sense that Verne seemed to do things to stroke his own ego rather than help his own company quite a few times.
 
Last edited:
Man, I haven't been NOT excited for a Wrestlemania like this since 27. It is a question of who should win versus who will win.

John Cena Vs. The Rock II - Just like last year, but miles improved. All the corny jokes dropped and the title involved. This is where it matters most. This rematch will surpass last year's. There will not be a heel turn. And Cena will defeat Rock with the **** winning the biggest match of his career along with the WWE Championship in front of a much bigger crowd than Miami. Aside from Cena not embracing the hate, I'm glad it worked out this way. It was for the better.

Alberto Del Rio Vs. Jack Swagger - The Essence Of Excellence has done a great job so far as World Heavyweight Champion and I hope he makes the undeserving Swagger tap out to the Cross Armbreaker. However, much damage will be done to Del Rio's ankle and Dolph Ziggler will cash in to take advantage of it. The Show Off will then walk out of New Jersey World Heavyweight Champion. Maybe even double champion.

CM Punk Vs. The Undertaker - Like HBK, expect Punk to kick out out of 8 finishers. I hope Undertaker makes him tap out to Hell's Gate. Then CM will be beaten so bad, so decisively, he will be the one wheeled out on a stretcher for desecrating the honor of The Dead Man's former mentor.

Brock Lesnar Vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley - I expect blood to be shed in this otherwise it will not be very good like how we saw with him and Undertaker in Atlanta, which was coincidentally also No Holds Barred. I expect a sledgehammer shot, a Superkick from HBK, and The Pedigree to take down Lesnar, but its Lesnar's return match at Wrestlemania and since he's the bigger draw, he should go over as Triple H has nothing much to offer at this point in his career. Maybe Shawn will do us all a favor and kick his buddy in the face and cost him the match for old time's sake.

The Shield Vs. Team Sheamus Again - Don't care since we got a better match with them at last month's PPV. I am getting tired of Shield winning though.

Ryback Vs. Henry - Goldberg Vs. Lesnar, but 10x worse. Expect Cowboy Skip to botch the Shellshock.

Bryan & Kane Vs. Ziggler & Langston - It would be tremendous if Dolph the tag titles, but Team Hell No will retain to make up for screwing over American Dragon last year.

Jericho Vs. Fandango - I've seen Curtis' work on NXT and he simply isn't that good yet he's taking on the former 6-time world champion in his very first match. He isn't worthy of such a win especially at WWE's biggest show, but then again, Jericho's lost so many times now that getting a win over him nowadays is almost meaningless. I hope this will be shades of WM 23 where an arrogant rookie named MVP showcased his talent to the world only to lose in great fashion to the veteran. With that said, Fandango's music is so damn catchy to. Win, lose, or draw, Fandango better impress the sh** out of me on Sunday night.

Tons of Funk Vs. Rhodes Scholars - Double splash for the win. Is it wrong I like A-Train better as a face now? It adds dimensions to his character.

Miz Vs. Barrett - Miz will win because they've botched Wade's pushes so much I almost want to give up on the guy because creative doesn't have a clue on how to handle the former leader of Nexus. Defeating the guy who won the main event of Wrestlemania 27 would be a step in the right direction.

I think this Wrestlemania will turn out to be terrible, but then again, WWE proved me wrong before with XXII.

On the whole HBK and Austin returning to the ring talk, IMO both should stay retired, both guys went out at Mania against classic rivals. Enough looking backwards, lets get the next batch of stars out in front.

Hard to make stars when you don't make them.

It was cool Austin lost to Rock, but Rock was already established. Stone Cold should've just sucked it up and job to Lesnar. Even Hogan put over Brock.

And what good did Michaels do by losing to Undertaker? Not a damn thing.
 
The Shield Vs. Team Sheamus Again - Don't care since we got a better match with them at last month's PPV. I am getting tired of Shield winning though.

They have only won 3 matches. :huh:

It was cool Austin lost to Rock, but Rock was already established. Stone Cold should've just sucked it up and job to Lesnar. Even Hogan put over Brock.And what good did Michaels do by losing to Undertaker? Not a damn thing.

Austin would have lost to Lesnar had it been booked properly, they wanted him to job to him in a KOTR qualifier on Raw with zero promotion. Austin was wrong to no show but he was right that it was dumb business, Austin vs Lesnar was a money match for PPV, not a throw away Raw match.

HBK lost to plenty of people before retiring, it's not about who you lose your last match too because beating a guy who is retiring anyway doesn't mean as much as beating them while they are still active.
 
Last edited:
One thing they like to do at Wrestlemania is do great entrances for everyone, so is there anyone's entrance you're really looking forward to this year or ideas of how you'd like to see them?
 
One thing they like to do at Wrestlemania is do great entrances for everyone, so is there anyone's entrance you're really looking forward to this year or ideas of how you'd like to see them?

Undertaker coming out to either 'Hells Bells' or 'From Whom the Bell Tolls.' They had a chance to do it a couple of years ago, but wasted 'From Whom the Bell Tolls' on Triple H.
 
Takers the only one I'm looking forward too it could be his last match,I've no interest in seeing HHH go all "Conan" or "Game of Thrones" or whatever the hell it was before.
 
I'm expecting a good one from Cena. His WM entrances have been lacking the past couple of years.
 
Bryan & Kane Vs. Ziggler & Langston - It would be tremendous if Dolph the tag titles, but Team Hell No will retain to make up for screwing over American Dragon last year.
Unless you're name is Cena or HHH, WWE aren't in the business of making things up to their roster for past losses, embarrassments or nonsensical bookings.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"