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I'll take a leg slapper that actually gives a damn over Randy "Zero effs given, I could be great but nah." Orton.

The guy is supposed to be so amazing yet I can name quite a few more great Cena matches than Orton. His best angle he was ever involved in lead to the most disappointing WrestleMania match ever against Triple H. None of his Cena matches dilver with the exception of the great Iron Man match they had. Orton is the ultimate TV wrestler too. Most of his best stuff is in matches on cable. He rarely shines on PPV from my perspective. Cena and Edge are so much better than Orton when you look back in hindsight.

Orton is hype mostly. He never became who I thought he was going to be in 2004.
 
I'm a fan of Orton. But Edge imo is the best of those three imo.

And I still find the Twitter exchange funny.
 
It is funny but I felt it was appropriate to unload on Orton a bit.

Overrated to the max and I bought in for awhile.
 
Lashley should have won, even with some shenanigans, and they could have built Drew back up to winning it back around Survivor Series.

It's telling that we're talking about these two guys facing each other in a main event program. I remember that when each of them debuted in WWE: they had all the potential you could think of, then each one kind of fizzled out and left the big company in a bit of a cloud, each for their own separate reasons. At that point, many fans, myself included, figured, "Well, that's the last we'll see of them in the WWE again."

Then they each came back, again in their own separate circumstances, worked their way back and exceeded where they were when they were younger. Now we're debating who goes over who in a main event program. Goes to show there are always second chances in life.
 
Lashley vs McIntyre was a main event program in Impact. That's so weird considering it was after the majority of hardcores stopped caring. At least until Tessa was getting them some buzz before all that stuff came out.
 
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Lashley should have won, even with some shenanigans, and they could have built Drew back up to winning it back around Survivor Series.
I don't think there is any reason for Drew to lose the belt anytime soon. He has been built to be the man. Why take it off him 2 months into his reign?
 
I don't think there is any reason for Drew to lose the belt anytime soon. He has been built to be the man. Why take it off him 2 months into his reign?
Because they played this feud too early into McIntyre's run. Lashley should have been built up crushing the midcard and the lower main event under MVP's tutilage, slowly sowing decent between him and Lana, leading to a much needed separation. THEN have him go after Drew and dethrone him. It would have solidified Lashley.

But since the feud starter far too early, they should have given Lashley the gold and let him run with it. Then McIntyre could have played up a story questioning if he really was as good as he though, then gain that confidence back and eventually get that redemption needed, winning back the gold he lost too soon. Or just showed grit and determination to get a shot again at the title and work his way through the card, having some great matches along the way. That's what I would have liked to have seen.

It shows they are high on him. From his debut I was a fan of his and thought he could easily work any part of the card, be it 205, under, mid or main eventing. He's supremely talented, charismatic as **** and has the look.
 
Surprised Vince likes Garza.

He is very good though.
 
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That Santos Escabar segment was the best thing on NXT. Nice promo and table spot there.

Kyle O'Reilly had me chuckling.

The Tag title match was good.

Io is more important than Cole to me with all due respect to the guys it's all about the women at this point. That's where the power lies, brother!
 
Learning that Jordan Devlin, Will Ospreay, Jimmy Havoc, Marty Scurll, Joey Ryan, Jim Cornette, and apparently a big chunk of the British wrestling scene are absolute garbage kind of ruined my night.
 
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Why does anyone care about the Carmela thing at all?

The Cornette stuff is nuts in particular though. I mean this stuff the UK guys did is awful but it's typical abuse. The Cornette thing is just bizarre.
 
Why does anyone care about the Carmela thing at all?

The Cornette stuff is nuts in particular though. I mean this stuff the UK guys did is awful but it's typical abuse. The Cornette thing is just bizarre.
Because a lot of wrestling fans are misogynists, who'd rather attack a woman for what consenting adults do in their own bedroom, as opposed to having to deal with some of their heroes being monsters.

The Cornette thing sounds like a storyline Russo would have written for him. That's how nuts it sounds.
 
Big E, Billie Kay, Otis and Kyle O'Reilly are the funniest wrestlers currently in the WWE imo. Honorable mention to R-Truth who is funny but can over do the 'me dumb' shtick sometimes.
It is funny but I felt it was appropriate to unload on Orton a bit.

Overrated to the max and I bought in for awhile.
I've always felt Orton was extremely overrated.

Orton is good when he wants to be but he wouldn't even make my list of top 50 wrestlers of the last 20 years. There are a lot more wrestlers I enjoy watching more than him most.
 
Learning that Jordan Devlin, Will Ospreay, Jimmy Havoc, Marty Scurll, Joey Ryan, Jim Cornette, and apparently a big chunk of the British wrestling scene are absolute garbage kind of ruined my night.

Yeah, really messy...but its for the best, get rid of scumbags.
There are still so many parts where wrestling is way behind...that cant continue.
Burn the whole industry down if neccessary and rebuild it with people who arent trash.

Why does anyone care about the Carmela thing at all?

The Cornette stuff is nuts in particular though. I mean this stuff the UK guys did is awful but it's typical abuse. The Cornette thing is just bizarre.

Why did she even bring it up? Did she even?
Just heard people talk how on her and graves podcast she "hinted" that she likes to get peed on.
People are so ****ing weird with their sexual fetish...i get feet, but who the **** likes to be peed on?
I dont need nor want to hear that for christ sake, why did you bring this up even? What the hell goes on with those two?
Weird people.

Kind of not surprised cornette is a chuck(Is that the right term?)...but still pretty nuts.
You expect cornette to be ****ed up in the head, but still...damn.
 
Uh oh.... Matt Riddle has been accused right before his big Smackdown debut tonight.....
 
Just got caught up to speed about the allegations with Corny and his wife. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me. Makes their case even worse since that wrestler who outed them has all the pictures and the convos uploaded (could've lived my whole life without seeing his wife's a** though).

Really is sad when you have to use your position of power just to get laid, or even worse preying on people.
 
At the rate in which NXT UK guys are accused, might as well shut down the brand permanently.
 

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