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[Dr. Evil]

Honestly, it would be better to have Jade get more experienced in the ring before putting any championships on her. Fans could easily turn on Jade if they just give her the title.

If it was the tag titles and she won it with Bianca, I don't see the fans turning on her because of how popular Bianca is.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I get not having Jade Cargill in the Elimination Chamber if she wasn't going to win it. You don't want Jade taking a pin this early. Tiffany Stratton can take a pin, as she's done so in NXT so many times before. Bianca is at the point in her career now where if she gets pinned, it doesn't affect her. If Becky wins the Chamber (and she probably will) Jade should not be in the match. Yes Jade did not win the Rumble, but losses by count-out or where she's in a multiple woman match or tag match and she's not the one taking the pin is no big deal. She should not get pinned until she's well established. If Becky wasn't in the match, having Jade in the match with Bianca, Naomi, Tiffany, Liv and Raquel Rodriguez and winning it would make sense.

I trust Triple H's judgment about Jade. I agree about not having her in the Chamber if she's not booked to win it, but dammit she has to be on the PPV in some kind of capacity.

I also still wonder who will be Bianca's opponent for Mania. If it in fact is Jade, Bianca's really going to have to earn her money that night and carry her in that match,

 

[Herolee10]

I do agree with that. Let's see how Gunther does in the World Championship scene. I do think that he's losing the title soon. I could see him losing it and then getting a rematch at Bash at Berlin so he can win it in front of his home country.

Sheamus has not won the IC Title, it's the only title he hasn't won. It's also the only main roster title John Cena hasn't won either, but he's not coming back for Mania.

Yeah, Gunther is more than ready for the WHC at this point. Honestly, I wish they wouldn't keep booking champions to have these long reigns. There are others that could've easily benefited (if not elevated) the WHC without having Seth carry the title for nearly a year now.

As much as I'd like to see Sheamus with the IC title, he's already been beaten by Gunther several times already. If I'm not mistaken, Gunther has already defeated most of the major wrestlers on the Raw brand.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I trust Triple H's judgment about Jade. I agree about not having her in the Chamber if she's not booked to win it, but dammit she has to be on the PPV in some kind of capacity.

I also still wonder who will be Bianca's opponent for Mania. If it in fact is Jade, Bianca's really going to have to earn her money that night and carry her in that match,

Another option is Jade and Bianca teaming up against the Kabuki Warriors for the Women's Tag Team Titles. It masks Jade's flaws, and Bianca has never won the tag team titles. As a Bianca fan, I want her to be a Women's Grand Slam Champion and also a Money in the Bank winner (which she has also never won, but she has also never competed in the match because she's always been champion during the MITB PLE's).

 

[Dr. Evil]

Yeah, Gunther is more than ready for the WHC at this point. Honestly, I wish they wouldn't keep booking champions to have these long reigns. There are others that could've easily benefited (if not elevated) the WHC without having Seth carry the title for nearly a year now.

As much as I'd like to see Sheamus with the IC title, he's already been beaten by Gunther several times already. If I'm not mistaken, Gunther has already defeated most of the major wrestlers on the Raw brand.

Drew beats Seth if Drew has signed a new WWE contract. I am not sure if he'll be cashed in on, but time is running out for that.

 

[Lobo]

Drew beats Seth if Drew has signed a new WWE contract. I am not sure if he'll be cashed in on, but time is running out for that.

Priest has until July

 

[Herolee10]

Curious, do you guys think that Cody will finally take the title off of Roman Reigns at WM 40? Or is it possible that Cody will get cheated again by some outside interference (e.g., The Bloodline, Seth's Betrayal)?

Would losing again pretty much hurt Cody's credibility going forward?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Curious, do you guys think that Cody will finally take the title off of Roman Reigns at WM 40? Or is it possible that Cody will get cheated again by some outside interference (e.g., The Bloodline, Seth's Betrayal)?

Would losing again pretty much hurt Cody's credibility going forward?

Cody wins because I can't see the Rock and Roman alliance lasting all that much longer.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Curious, do you guys think that Cody will finally take the title off of Roman Reigns at WM 40? Or is it possible that Cody will get cheated again by some outside interference (e.g., The Bloodline, Seth's Betrayal)?

Would losing again pretty much hurt Cody's credibility going forward?

It really depends on the direction the company wants to go, so I can't call it. I feel like Cody "finishing the story" works good for short-term, but after that, how do you build around him when he has no credible heels to face? Then booking Roman to retain is better for the long term IMO because it helps scrub away Hogan and gives Roman a legacy.

But the fans love Cody, it won't hurt his credibility taking another loss.

 

[DeadlyWest]

It really depends on the direction the company wants to go, so I can't call it. I feel like Cody "finishing the story" works good for short-term, but after that, how do you build around him when he has no credible heels to face? Then booking Roman to retain is better for the long term IMO because it helps scrub away Hogan and gives Roman a legacy.

But the fans love Cody, it won't hurt his credibility taking another loss.

It'd be too little too late.

As I said previously when we discussed this, Roman's legacy does not rely on scrubbing Hogan's record. It's not even mentioned outside of forums like this one. Roman's already cemented his legacy as one of the genuinely greatest wrestlers of all time. He doesn't need to break Hogan's record to cement his legacy.

The fans love Cody, absolutely. But there's only so long fans will tolerate a slow burn approach to him finally getting the win before they just run out of steam for Cody and the product as a whole, say "f this" and just turn the TV off. Reigns' title run has run its natural course. Hell, it ran its natural course last year if you really ask me. Another year, if anything, is gonna get so stale that Roman's title reign is gonna end on a whimper which would hamper his legacy more than it ending with a bang at WM 40. WM 40 is the best place to end the title run. It ends with a satisfying climax, cementing both the legacies of Cody and Roman, and sets Roman's run as quite possibly the greatest WWE championship reign of all time.

To me, where you go after Cody wins is honestly fairly simple.

Have LA Knight win the Elimination Chamber and in turn win the WHC, swapping the brands for the titles. Then, continue Cody vs the Bloodline...

but extend it into a brand new brand warfare in the most literal sense. Cody Rhodes' Raw vs Roman Reigns' Smackdown. It writes itself.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

It'd be too little too late.

As I said previously when we discussed this, Roman's legacy does not rely on scrubbing Hogan's record. It's not even mentioned outside of forums like this one. Roman's already cemented his legacy as one of the genuinely greatest wrestlers of all time. He doesn't need to break Hogan's record to cement his legacy.

The fans love Cody, absolutely. But there's only so long fans will tolerate a slow burn approach to him finally getting the win before they just run out of steam for Cody and the product as a whole, say "f this" and just turn the TV off. Reigns' title run has run its natural course. Hell, it ran its natural course last year if you really ask me. Another year, if anything, is gonna get so stale that Roman's title reign is gonna end on a whimper which would hamper his legacy more than it ending with a bang at WM 40. WM 40 is the best place to end the title run. It ends with a satisfying climax, cementing both the legacies of Cody and Roman, and sets Roman's run as quite possibly the greatest WWE championship reign of all time.

To me, where you go after Cody wins is honestly fairly simple.

Have LA Knight win the Elimination Chamber and in turn win the WHC, swapping the brands for the titles. Then, continue Cody vs the Bloodline...

but extend it into a brand new brand warfare in the most literal sense. Cody Rhodes' Raw vs Roman Reigns' Smackdown. It writes itself.

You think it'd be too little too late? Shows how much confidence you have in your American Nightmare bruhv. :smilingeyes:

But for real, you can't follow up a white hot program like Roman/Cody and then do a brand extension warfare, that's just covering up for the fact that there's no one out there who can be seen as a viable contender. The only one I could see that would be a satisfying opponent for Cody after Roman is Gunther, but then he's too busy elevating the IC belt and making the midcard better. Then they could also do Lashley, but he's a face now.

 

[DeadlyWest]

You think it'd be too little too late? Shows how much confidence you have in your American Nightmare bruhv. :smilingeyes:

But for real, you can't follow up a white hot program like Roman/Cody and then do a brand extension warfare, that's just covering up for the fact that there's no one out there who can be seen as a viable contender. The only one I could see that would be a satisfying opponent for Cody after Roman is Gunther, but then he's too busy elevating the IC belt and making the midcard better. Then they could also do Lashley, but he's a face now.

Has nothing to do with my confidence in Cody, has everything to do with my confidence in the storytelling and how long people are gonna care for it. Hype is not a static thing that remains for all time. There's gonna come a time where we get sick of Cody. It happened with pre tribal chief Reigns (very quickly), it happened with Cena, it happened with HHH, it happened with Hogan, it's arguably happening right now with Reigns. That's the cycle of life of a "Face of the Company" who lasts long enough for it to happen to. And the worst thing WWE could possibly do is delay Roman dropping the title long enough that that starts happening to Cody before he's got that title. Roman's title reign ends in a complete whimper and as I said, it's too little too late for Cody to cause any type of emotional reaction.

Also it just wouldn't work for the same reason that nobody wanted Cody vs Seth. If Roman beats Cody twice in a row, at two different Wrestlemanias, who the hell is gonna realistically find it believable that Cody's able to do it on the third? It just deflates the entire white/hot phenomena you're talking about because there's no substance to the character anymore. There's no satisfying payoff.

Agree to disagree on the brand extension warfare. Because I don't mean traditional brand extension warfare shenanigans where you've just had...two separate brands. I mean I want a genuine Invasion Style (but done right) war between Raw and Smackdown. But even if they don't go that direction, there's one very obvious person I see going against Cody after he wins the title.

Randy Orton. Then maybe Punk, when he comes back. I think Drew is also another very obvious rivalry waiting to happen.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lobo]

It'd be too little too late.

As I said previously when we discussed this, Roman's legacy does not rely on scrubbing Hogan's record. It's not even mentioned outside of forums like this one. Roman's already cemented his legacy as one of the genuinely greatest wrestlers of all time. He doesn't need to break Hogan's record to cement his legacy.

The fans love Cody, absolutely. But there's only so long fans will tolerate a slow burn approach to him finally getting the win before they just run out of steam for Cody and the product as a whole, say "f this" and just turn the TV off. Reigns' title run has run its natural course. Hell, it ran its natural course last year if you really ask me. Another year, if anything, is gonna get so stale that Roman's title reign is gonna end on a whimper which would hamper his legacy more than it ending with a bang at WM 40. WM 40 is the best place to end the title run. It ends with a satisfying climax, cementing both the legacies of Cody and Roman, and sets Roman's run as quite possibly the greatest WWE championship reign of all time.

To me, where you go after Cody wins is honestly fairly simple.

Have LA Knight win the Elimination Chamber and in turn win the WHC, swapping the brands for the titles. Then, continue Cody vs the Bloodline...

but extend it into a brand new brand warfare in the most literal sense. Cody Rhodes' Raw vs Roman Reigns' Smackdown. It writes itself.

I'm on the same page as you. Cody HAS to win at Mania. It's time. Delaying it another year, and people would probably be begging for Gunther or Bron or someone else who may have gotten red hot like LA Knight did this year. If Cody fails again he'll have shown he's not the guy. Where if he does win you have fresh new stories in a new direction. Romans legacy without a doubt is already cemented but please yes let's do Roman vs Rock at SummerSlam especially if you want it to be the WrestleMania of the summer.

As for who is the heel waiting for Cody after Roman? There's Gunther but he shouldn't lose either, and Cody shouldn't lose his first feud as champion so I'd hold off on that one. You can tell the legacy story with Randy. Damien Priest is a good option. Or really you go all in on Kross and give him the opportunity against Cody.

Cody vs any of Priest, Balor, Styles, AJ, Orton, Punk, Lashley, Kross or Knight would all be banger matches. You could even have Sheamus return as a heel and kick Cody's face off. And of course the eventual Gunther match. I'd throw Santos Escobar (my choice for next mitb winner) in there as well as I'm a fan of his and they could tear the house down

I agree Knight should become whc this year. But if they wanted he could go heel in 15 seconds with a microphone (I wouldn't do that right now, though)

With Cody as champ, guys like Kross and Escobar would at least have an opportunity at a main event match. That's never happening with Roman.

 

[Lobo]

Another idea, Nick Aldis most likely, but any of the on screen officials should put Roman or the bloodline in a lumberjack match with everyone they've screwed over as the lumberjacks. It would serve as a fun and fitting comeuppance imo.

Cody Rhodes vs The Rock from 11 years ago.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Very disappointing to hear Cena saying this in public:

John Cena On Vince McMahon Allegations: I'm Going To Love The Person I Love And Be Their Friend

16-time world champion John Cena comments on the allegations against Vince McMahon and emphasizes that he loves McMahon.

www.wrestlezone.com

 

[vantheman77]

AEW has hired the 3-time Emmy Award winner who recently left WWE.

Sting revealed in his promo that his father recently passed away.

Wardllow did a promo where he took a shot at CM Punk.

 

[Dr. Evil]

WWE 2K24 is coming out soon. It does mean that people can make a faction now called "The Faces of Foley" since it has Dude Love, Cactus Jack and Mankind, but also Mick Foley as a manager. As bad as the game is, it has one of my favorite things to do: have a tag team or faction of the same people but with different gimmicks. In my universe mode, I teamed John Cena and the Prototype together, but also Batista with Leviathan, both Randy Orton's, both Brock Lesnar's both Takers and both HBK's as tag teams. I plan on making a "Faces of Foley" faction.

 

[Lobo]

Is this the most predictable ple in awhile?

I presume we all have the winners as follows?

Judgement Day over Dunne and Bate
Becky Lynch in the women's chamber
Drew McIntyre in the men's chamber
Rhea Ripley over Nia
Grayson Waller effect with Seth and Cody getting interrupted by Roman and Rock setting up their potential tag match.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lobo]

If you had to throw out a wild card prediction for the Elimination Chamber What would it be? Mine would be LA Knight getting the surprise win.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

If you had to throw out a wild card prediction for the Elimination Chamber What would it be? Mine would be LA Knight getting the surprise win.

Imagine them pulling a One Night Only, and Nia beats Rhea in her home country for the title.

The heat would BE INSANE.

 

[Lobo]

Imagine them pulling a One Night Only, and Nia beats Rhea in her home country for the title.

The heat would BE INSANE.

Hmmm. Would you have the Bloodline help Nia? I mean she is The Rocks cousin

 

[Dr. Evil]

Since they added a Women's Tag Title match on the kickoff show, Indi Hartwell is the Aussie that is losing, not Rhea.