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The Wrestling Thread has much larger nipples

I did enjoy Takeover a whole lot. My one issue was Velveteen Dream's promo at the end of his match, but other than that, it was fun as usual.
 
Same could be said of WCW back when they were winning in the ratings. They had all the known names. WWE let their talent loose and took chances and ended up with simply a better product.
Guess which product a lot of people think sucks right now? Guess which one is down 20% in viewers from just last year?

We'll have to see tomorrow if that continues to hold up.
 
It is kind of ironic to see the current WWE product falling to the same pitfalls and making the same mistakes that WCW made, prior to their downfall. I mean Vince just does not seem to be interested in making new stars and is focused on always using the same guys as the main event.

It is just absurd to see on how much Vince has given to Brock who barely does any work and does not even make a huge difference in their ratings. The fact that Vince has placed Brock on such a high pedestal is no different than him saying that Brock is a bigger star than Stone Cold, The Rock, and John Cena were in their prime when they were all full time workers who gave everything they had for the business.
 
It's an awful looking title, but I like the concept of it and one of the few talents who are probably happy with their WWE status is now a three time champion:

 
So I was watching the new Botchamania. I did not realize how unprofessional the commentary team was for Double or Nothing. I heard it was bad, but good lord.
 
Happy to see the Street Profits win. Dawkins has been around since day one of NXT and Ford is so entertaining.

Drunk Finn Balor at the champions league final. Now his single again it seems old big hoot is targeting Fox sports veronica rodriguez


Finn's ex Cathy Kelly is now with Velveteen Dream now.
 
My amazing Sonya Deville came in the mail today. The photo doesn't do the head sculpt justice.



The quality of Mattel's female figures is so uneven. Good: Charlotte, Alexa, Trish, Sonya, Nia. Not good enough: Ronda, Sasha, Bayley, Mandy. Terrible: Natalya, Lana, Becky.
 
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Seeing as how everyone is unhappy with the WWE what are the odds of the WWE roster at Mania 36 being John Cena, Kane, Dwayne Johnson, David Bautista (even though he has retired), Ronda Rousey, The McMahons and R-Truth?
 
I am curious to see what day they announce AEW. I don't see it being Tuesdays because of NBA. Either Wednesday or Thursday.
 
It is kind of ironic to see the current WWE product falling to the same pitfalls and making the same mistakes that WCW made, prior to their downfall. I mean Vince just does not seem to be interested in making new stars and is focused on always using the same guys as the main event.

It is just absurd to see on how much Vince has given to Brock who barely does any work and does not even make a huge difference in their ratings. The fact that Vince has placed Brock on such a high pedestal is no different than him saying that Brock is a bigger star than Stone Cold, The Rock, and John Cena were in their prime when they were all full time workers who gave everything they had for the business.

Even Cena thinks the WWE's business model is outdated

For decades, WWE has always chosen one man to be the star of their company.

Whether it was Hulk Hogan, to John Cena, or Roman Reigns, the company has always had the mindset that one superstar should be the face of their product; however, with today’s landscape of the business being so rich with diverse athletes from different backgrounds, former 16-time World Champion John Cena thinks the company’s model is outdated, a view he expressed during a Q&A session at BookCon

“I think the dynamic of the program is changing. For the longest time, I think, if you consider WWE a band, there’s been one front person of the band. I think that dynamic is changing and it’s because the audience is too diverse. I think older males are watching it, younger kids are watching it, females are watching it. The audience is so diverse so with a diverse audience, it’s tough to universally please someone."

"In the 80s you had a family-oriented program and Hulk Hogan was the front man. In the 90s, you had 18-35 year old males, in comes Steve Austin and Dwayne Johnson because they hit right down that wheelhouse, and then there was me, but even myself as you know, went through a polarizing stage where half the audience likes you and half the audience doesn’t so I don’t think there’s a universal figure that will lead the company forward. I think as the company grows and especially expands globally, you’re gonna have a super-friends of the WWE which is like, people who are essentially fighting for equal share of popularity. I think the band essentially will have ten lead singers of every different race, creed, color, sex, ethnicity. So, I believe that I was kind of the last of that, and I think the landscape has changed so much that’s more of group effort rather than a individual effort.”

from Ring report
 
If John Cena, a company man known to constantly defend the WWE, thinks the WWE model is outdated, something is wrong.
 
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I haven't seen the match yet, but this probably sums it all up.

 
Taker and Goldberg could have done serious damage to each other, from the clips I've just seen.

Need to hang it up now. Please.
 

Anyone seen the post match interviews he and Juice did? It’s the perfect scenario for the “increase the comparison to actual sporting events” idea Smackdown is supposed to undergo, and hot damn good bit of promowork for both guys, but especially Juice.

Honestly, if Juice and Moxley have a rematch, they don’t really need any storyline to get there - they just need those post-match promos.
 
If you all want a real wrestling show free of BS, watch the Best of Super Junior final. It is easily a Card of the Year Candidate.

Also, the storytelling is there, it simply happens in the ring.
 

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