The Dark Knight Things you noticed the second time

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At the party, the Joker has a knife concealed in his shoe. Later on in the film, when his coat pockets are being emptied at the GCPD, he still has his shoes on. Theoretically, the Joker still has a weapon on him whilst he is being interrogated.
 
Joker uses the broken glass in the interrogation room as a knife to threaten the cop and get his one phone call.

I always thought he used the knife hidden in his shoe.

EDIT: Well, guess you already established this.
 
In fact it is makes a lot more of sense than Lincoln or bigfoot.

Elvis has been said to be alive somewhere. For someone who is trying to name any absurd theory about Batman, that one could make it and still have some remote relation with the main subject. Lincoln on the other hand...

But you need a certain basic amount of cellbrains to get the obvious connection.


Yet you are the one who believes that Elvis is alive somewhere and attributes that as a reason for his picture on the list of Batman suspects, when (like RachelDawes said) it was meant to be nothing more than a quick throwaway gag. So much for all your talk about brains. :funny:

Yeah. No one can deny that was bigfoot, because we all know that was the very real one. ;)


Nice way of dodging the question. But in this part of my post I never said anything about them being "real" but rather instantly recognizable by anyone. That's the kind of dumb mistakes you make when you try to act smarter than you really are.

Anyways, they could have used some sketches made out of some witness' description if pics from movies are not allowed. To which I can't find a reason why they couldn't be.

Why would they when the very intention of the scene was to show that they just didn't care to investigate who was Batman in the first place?

You fail to grasp metaphors at all. Or comedy with some effort behind it.

Oh, you were trying to be funny? I guess your jokes are as dumb as your wits then. :hehe:

The kind that has a brain that works. The other kind is the one that keeps being envious at those people's intelectual abilities by starting personal attacks.

Delusions of grandeur from someone who can't even spell their "intelectual" abilities properly, let alone claim to have any. :lmao:

That the fact that any of those characters are fictional or not is irrelevant. Opposite to what you implied with "Both Nosferatu and Dracula are fictional characters..." (as if bigfoot was too real).

Bigfoot may not be real, but it is a real-life urban legend. There have been studies, investigations and research on it. Compared to Dracula and Nosferatu who have absolutely no basis in real life.

So I take that that thematic relationship means a lot of effort for you.

Not for me, but the cops who are supposed to be investigating the true identity of Batman.

I don't remember saying it was a very good and believable theory.

But it's good enough for you to think that the writer would factor it as a reason for including Elvis as a possible Batman suspect. Oy. :facepalm:

And about dealing with dumb people, I just have to fight them once in a while on internet.

Yeah, we know.
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the first one was very acceptable so I gave the second one a chance. It was my brain who told me it was a pile of crap.

But you have to admit most audiences were numb-brained enough to find it funny, the kind of people who enjoys pointless random jokes.

Yeah, the same "numb-brained people" who went to see the first one were stupid enough to see the second in theaters. :oldrazz:

That's the classic mediocrity's maxim: why should I bother with this if it's not what people will notice the most.


No, it's the classic insignificant maxim: why should anyone bother with this if it is so petty and trivial. Because I'd love to hear your explain as to why a harmless throwaway gag is so important to you as to warrant such a thorough and substantial examination.

By the way, I find it hilarious that you with your 'SUPERIOR INTELLECT', turned your brains off for two hours to deem the first Transformers (or mindless Michael Bay film with big explosions and robots beating the crap out of each other) as 'acceptable' but not for a two second casual joke from TDK. Ah, the burden of genius. :funny:


Ah well. It'd be stupid to reply to something that is more flaming than discussion. I'm sorry you felt personally offended by the "brains" comment; you didn't have to and certainly shouldn't. In the end, as you say it's 2 seconds of a movie that's a masterpiece.
 
I've watched the movie alot of times, but somehow I've never realised how brutal, the beating that the Joker gives Batman really is. It was my first time watching it in the Blu-ray version. I wish we could've seen more of that in the movie. I like the fact that Joker throws him a beating and how brutal his fighting style is.
 
At the party, the Joker has a knife concealed in his shoe. Later on in the film, when his coat pockets are being emptied at the GCPD, he still has his shoes on. Theoretically, the Joker still has a weapon on him whilst he is being interrogated.

The cops probably pulled the knives out of his shoes.
 
Just rewatched Batman Begins, when Batman jumps out of Crane''s apartment window, he lands on a parked car. In TDK, when Batman jumps out of the penthouse window to save rachel, he lands on a parked car again.


Also in BB, scarecrow says to Batman "you look like a man who takes himself too seriously". This seems very similar to Joker's "why so serious".
 
I guess Batman likes landing on parked cars. After all, they're so much easier to land on than moving cars. ;)
 
Joker Quote: "Let's put a smile on that FACE!"

Refering to Two Face ;)

Thats how I see it anyway...
 
I watched “The Untouchables” last night and found out that Nolan is a fan of the movie. Armani designed their clothes and did the same in Nolan’s Batman movies. Bruce’s words asking Alfred’s advice are the same Elliot Ness uses to ask for Malone’s advice. Moreover, the actor who plays Dent’s assistant, the one who is sitting next to Rachel during Maroni’s trial, played Al Capone’s lawyer. How cool is that?!? (lol) Were you aware of that?
 
I've watched the movie alot of times, but somehow I've never realised how brutal, the beating that the Joker gives Batman really is. It was my first time watching it in the Blu-ray version. I wish we could've seen more of that in the movie. I like the fact that Joker throws him a beating and how brutal his fighting style is.

Argh, this is why it bugs me so much when people complain about Bale's voice in his subsequent conversation with the Joker - people never notice that Batman really has taken a SAVAGE beating from the Joker just moments before. How would YOU sound if you tried to speak, having just gone through all that?
 
I don't know about you guys but I've noticed that Harvey interrogating Schiff was intentionally shown the same time we see Batman interrogating Maroni to further point out the parallel between the two characters We see here that Harvey is bent and broken to the point of losing his "code" while Bruce does not falter.
 
I don't know about you guys but I've noticed that Harvey interrogating Schiff was intentionally shown the same time we see Batman interrogating Maroni to further point out the parallel between the two characters We see here that Harvey is bent and broken to the point of losing his "code" while Bruce does not falter.
Yes. The dichotomy is reinforced several times in that way, like how the rooftop scene between Batman, Dent, and Gordon takes place directly after the mob meeting scene with the Joker, setting up the two opposing conglomerates of power in Gotham.
 
Argh, this is why it bugs me so much when people complain about Bale's voice in his subsequent conversation with the Joker - people never notice that Batman really has taken a SAVAGE beating from the Joker just moments before. How would YOU sound if you tried to speak, having just gone through all that?
exactly. batman is not going to sacrifice disguising his voice for anything. maintaining the persona and his identity is critical. in a real world setting, anyway. the joker did give batman quite a beating. that is going to hurt, no matter what suit you are wearing. not to mention the mental beating the joker gave batman throughout the film. and he still had to deal with harvey's hostage situation.
 
exactly. batman is not going to sacrifice disguising his voice for anything. maintaining the persona and his identity is critical. in a real world setting, anyway. the joker did give batman quite a beating. that is going to hurt, no matter what suit you are wearing. not to mention the mental beating the joker gave batman throughout the film. and he still had to deal with harvey's hostage situation.
Not to mention Joker stabbing him in the abdomen. "Of all the old familiar places". I didn't notice it the first few times when I saw the movie, but after reading the script (which says it clearly), I see it; Batman is also shown holding his side where he was stabbed.
 
Not to mention Joker stabbing him in the abdomen. "Of all the old familiar places". I didn't notice it the first few times when I saw the movie, but after reading the script (which says it clearly), I see it; Batman is also shown holding his side where he was stabbed.
precisely. in the novelisation, it states:

"batman was experiencing flashes of dizziness, and he felt sticky warmth trickling down his skin from where the joker had stabbed him. this wound was not superficial. he needed help. he wondered how much blood he'd lost, how long he could continue before exhaustion and trauma would buckle his knees, would sweep a red fog over his vision. not long, but maybe long enough."

and, as we all know, he is then later shot in his mid-section by two-face during the hostage situation. and he also falls to the ground from that height.
 
One of the things I noticed was that Ramirez never actually gets the chance to call the cops off for 10 mins. "I will call them off for 10 minutes" However Dent knocks her unconcious meaning that the cops are never called away from the house. One of the biggest problems I have always had with the movie apart from the pointless killing off of Dent is the fact that Gordon stated he killed 5 people, 2 of them cops. Dent only kills Weurtz, Maroni's driver and possibly Maroni himself in the car crash. This is not a throwaway statement by any stretch from Jim Gordon and a logical train of thought shows that the statement is incorrect as Two-Face is actually only responsible for 3 deaths. However there is the slim possibility that Dent kills the two officers stationed outside gordons house and when Gordon refers to the two cops he means these two and that he no longer counts Weurtz as a cop after his actions. I don't buy it personally but it is plausible. I personally think he believes that Ramirez is dead even though she is just missing (probably having gone into hiding to avoid some jail time) and so that means that the 5 dead comment means that one person is still unaccounted for.

Two-Face hit list:
Weurtz:shot and killed by Two-Face. VICTIM ONE
Maroni's lackey:knocked unconscious by Dent before he gets in car (I was alerted to this by an eagle eyed contributor to this forum whose name I forget) however as there is another lackey who never gets in the car he would notice his colleague was out cold and so it is implausible that he would be classed as dead or missing.
Maronis driver:Shot and killed by Two-Face. VICTIM TWO
Maroni:Probably killed in car crash. VICTIM THREE
Ramirez:Knocked unconscious by Dent. ASSUMED AS A VICTIM SO VICTIM FOUR



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^I remember this board going over the five deaths in great detail after the movie came out. Here would be my guess:

Wuertz - Cop #1
Maroni
Maroni's driver
Maroni's bodyguard - Two-Face hit him over the head and the blow killed him.
Ramirez - Cop #2. She's only missing but Gordon assumes she's dead because he knows Two-Face's been on a murderous rampage, killing crooked cops.
 
I've always thought when Gordon says "5 dead" he could be including Dent himself in that? He doesn't say Dent killed 5 people. And Dent is a casualty of the whole Two Face debacle.
 
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