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Comics This is the X-Men's Manifest Destiny...

so....in order to rid himself of an STD, iceman can just 'shed' his body and from a new one? awesome.

and i guess Graymalkin being Doug Ramsey is ruled out...now that he is 200 years old....

as far as Colossus not painting...missing Kitty much? never fear his sister's coming back
 
You'd figure his pain and mourning would inspire him some.
 
Yeah, almost all of the famous work of art are done by artists who weren't in a merry condition.
 
Iceman reforming his body is not that different than when Northstar and Aurora blew him up a couple of years ago. He still had to use moisture from the air to reform and coalesce... And guess who was there to save his ass and resusitate him... Yeah, Mystique. So I'm not so sure this was a new discovery with his powers, versus Mike just adding a little spin on it by duplicating the process three times over, as well as explaining what Iceman actually did... Which I appreciate, by the way.
 
I wish Mystique would just stay the **** away from Iceman...no, away from every X-Man and Woman, when is X-Force going to live up to their purpose and kill her already?
 
For real. You've got an entire group of people who can track and stab bad guys, but they're not actually going after anybody that should've been killed a long time ago. Mystique should've died when Rogue tried to suck the life out of her.

On another note, it looks like Rogue can't kill someone with her powers, even if she tries. Good for her.
 
Good, less reason for being angst for the Drama Queen.
 
That would be very interesting if Mystique was put on the X-force hit-list. Mystique seems like the type of character that if given prep time would be able to take X-force. I would actually like to see that.

I can also see Mystique pulling a Cyclops and forming her own hit squad; a black ops Brotherhood crew. I would like to see that also; a counter crew to X-force working against their efforts to exact Mystique's plans for her vision of the future.
 
I just think its a shame that she's not actually on X-Force. did anyone else read her solo series, with her working undercover for Xavier? it was AWESOME!

If X-Force started using shortpack to pass their missions on to them I would be so happy :)
 
Iceman's "let's get him a hooker" suggestion was priceless.
 
I wish Mystique would just stay the **** away from Iceman...no, away from every X-Man and Woman, when is X-Force going to live up to their purpose and kill her already?
IA. Im not liking her obsession with Bobby. Im done with her character
 
Now Rockslide is being petulant again, I really really dislike this kid.
Though I think it's a nice touch that the writers remember that Colossus paints, even though he can't right now for some reason.

Santo was pretty 1 dimensional in this issue. "I hate you!" Haha

IA. Im not liking her obsession with Bobby. Im done with her character

Yeah, Wolverine should have killed her in his book a few months ago. I know she's a good X-villain with a lot of history and it's a shame to see those kinds of characters killed; but Miss Sinister could totally take her place.
 
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The Amazing Avalanche!

no, no – wait...the Incredible Avalanche!

The Invincible Avalanche?

Astonish....aw, forget it.

As far as Marvel’s mutants go, Avalanche’s name could just as easily have been Wallpaper Man. A member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Freedom Force and other groups of mutants looking for a bad time or otherwise working for the shady side of the government, Dominikos Ioannis Petrakis isn’t one of the shining stars of the X-Men’s world. His name is his power, but beyond that...not much. That’s why it’s all the more surprising that he was one of the mutants who held on to his powers on M-Day, an event during which the vast majority of Marvel’s mutants lost their special powers.

So what’s he been doing since?

That’s where X-Men: Manifest Destiny #5 and Frank Tieri come in. Manifest Destiny, a five issue anthology miniseries has been checking in on Marvel’s mutants since the staus quo change chronicled in Messiah Complex and the resultant relocation of the mutants to San Francisco. The fifth and final issue is due in stores on January 7th, and Tieri is writing the story starring Avalanche. We caught up with him for some details.

Newsarama: Frank, you're taking part in X-Men: Manifest Destiny #5 - it's an anthology book, obviously, so how does one get a spot in the lineup?

Frank Tieri: You know, I have a pretty long history with the X-office, but I hadn’t done anything over there in a while. So Nick Lowe and I got to talking and he was like “Hey, I’ve got this X-Men: Manifest Destiny thing in the works, why don’t you throw me a pitch for it?”. We tossed around different characters to use, different types of stories to tell, but the one we settled on was this little Avalanche number.

NRAMA: Why Avalanche?

FT: I’ve always been a sucker for the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants—especially the first two, the Magneto and Mystique versions. And while there’s been plenty of stories on Mystique, the Blob, Toad, etc, there really haven’t been that many stories focusing on Avalanche. Yeah, the guy’s been around for decades but what do we really know about him outside of the fact he wears a goofy helmet and makes the ground shake a lot?

NRAMA: Technically speaking this is the "return" of Avalanche. He didn't lose his powers as a result of M-Day, but hasn't been seen since. That said, Avalanche has a backstory and history, but yet M-Day is a life-changing event for mutants. So how did you want to approach him as a character? Same as it's ever been, to quote the Talking Heads, or show him as a different man due to being a survivor?

FT: I’d say he’s definitely a different man. As you say, M-Day would’ve been a life changing experience for some mutants. Some would’ve “found religion”, so to speak, and taken it as a chance to make a fresh start—and that’s what I see happening with Avalanche.

In fact, when we find him in our story, he’s not running around in funny under wear anymore or running after whoever the hell heads the Brotherhood now– the only thing he’s running these days is a bar.

NRAMA: A bar?

FT: Yep. He’s retired to a fairly quiet existence, running a little bar in San Fran. But, of course, we all know what a bad location he’s picked because that’s where the X-Men are heading.

You can pretty much see how it all pretty much hits the fan for him after that.

NRAMA: So when the X-men show up... given what the mutants have been through, as well as Cyclops' telepathic call to all mutants to come to San Francisco...why would a member want to stand against other members of this small "tribe," for lack of a better term?

FT: I believe the question you should be asking instead is why would the tribe want to stand against the one member?

M day really has changed everything... so how much have the X-Men and their methodologies changed as a result? That’s the question this story really addresses.

NRAMA: Which X-men in particular are involved in this story?

FT: Probably my four favorite X-men of all time:

Colossus.
Beast.
Nightcrawler.

And... get ready for it... surprise, surprise... Wolverine.

Wolvie really does most of the heavy lifting in the story—I’ve always seen him as the guy the X-men would send if they wanted to send a message to somebody. Sort of like the X-family’s leg breaker go-to-guy.

NRAMA: Again Frank, we find you writing a villain...dude, what is it with you and the bad guys? Do you find that you have more latitude with them, as opposed to heroes, who by and large have to stay on a relatively narrow pre-ordained path?

FT: Well, truthfully, this is almost as much an X-Men story as it is an Avalanche one. And if you’ve been paying attention—and I know you have, Matt—my work as of late has been largely hero-centric (Batman, Outsiders, for DC, Nick Fury, Hulk for Marvel Digital) That being said...

Yeah, I know, I’m doing another villain thing. I guess partly because it’s become sort of my niche by now. People decide to do villain pieces and I’m usually one of the people who comes to mind. I take it as a compliment, actually—it shows that the work I’ve done in the past with villains is appreciated, and that people think I can bring something interesting to the table.

And the maybe the key word to that last sentence is “interesting”—I just find villains to be more interesting... more real. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again—I don’t know too many people who, upon getting super powers, will put on a pair of long underwear and start running into burning buildings or pulling cats out of trees. More than likely they’d knock over the nearest bank or beat the ever-living crap out of that kid they never liked from high school. More than likely the people I know would be what would be considered villains, so that’s probably where a lot of it comes from.

Besides... aren’t villains just a hell of a lot more fun anyway?

NRAMA: So where will we see your name show up next?

FT: Well, I know my output’s been DC heavy as of late (so much so that a lot of people mistakenly thought I was DC exclusive) but the pendulum’s going to shift a bit and you’ll be seeing my name involved with a lot of upcoming Marvel stuff. I expect one of those projects to announced fairly soon, but for the most part, a lot of the other stuff will come to light at New York Comic Con and beyond.

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http://www.newsarama.com/comics/120822-Avalanche-Tieri.html
 
why is it always the same four people?!?!

the whole point of having a smaller amount of characters (due to mday) and having access to all of them (bc they are all in san fran.) is to actually use them!

so why freaking continue using the over used? there are still two hundred other characters to write. STOP USING WOLVERINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So... the X-Men found out Avalanche was running a small bar in San Francisco, so they attacked him in his home? Really? They didn't approach him subtly to see if everything was on the up & up? They just straight-up broke through his window and attacked him?

That seems... unnecessary.
 
So... the X-Men found out Avalanche was running a small bar in San Francisco, so they attacked him in his home? Really? They didn't approach him subtly to see if everything was on the up & up? They just straight-up broke through his window and attacked him?

That seems... unnecessary.
 
That's the Wolverine Style, he couldn't spend more than two seconds on conversations, cause it's not 'cool'.
 
why is it always the same four people?!?!

the whole point of having a smaller amount of characters (due to mday) and having access to all of them (bc they are all in san fran.) is to actually use them!

so why freaking continue using the over used? there are still two hundred other characters to write. STOP USING WOLVERINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree, im getting a bit pissed off seeing the same X-Men in every book when theres the likes of Iceman and Cannonball waiting on the sidelines...:cmad:
 
Never thought I'd see the day when people complained about Colossus' overexposure lol
 
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X-MEN: MANIFEST DESTINY #5


STORY BY Mike Carey, Frank Tieri, etc.
ART BY Michael Ryan, Takeshi Miyazawa, etc.
COVER BY Humberto Ramos
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $3.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, January 7th, 2009

The final issue of the hit X-Men anthology mini-series is here! See the pulse pounding conclusion of Mike Carey (X-MEN: LEGACY) and Michael Ryan’s (RUNAWAYS) Iceman story? What does Mystique want and why is she coming to Iceman? Also stories featuring the return of Avalanche and a rockin’ story starring your favorite glam-X-lady Dazzler!
 
Never thought I'd see the day when people complained about Colossus' overexposure lol
Im not complaining about him, im glad he is in a few books to make up the times he has been **** on, it's the fact that in the two team books its virtually the same team and Iceman (my favorie character) is being **** on again.
 
*gasp*
Dazzler is finally doing to do more than say about 2 lines of dialogue and then be used in the background of a scene where the X-Men are at a dance club! I'm amazed!
 

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