Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Sleiek]

I always believed Thor would wreck Hulk. He is a god for crying out loud.

 

[jaqua99]

I always believed Thor would wreck Hulk. He is a god for crying out loud.

Well he would, given his powerset which is never utilized when earth characters are around.

His morals are part of his character, in a way I've always found Thor's power in a fight increases unpredictably as his intensity rises to the point where he rarely fights with everything he's got. I would think that's been adapted to film, but Thor pulling out storms large enough to engulf a solar system is something rare from him in the comics, which from an Earthly stand point, makes his power truly appear mysterious, as he never unleashes. It adds to the god aura and makes it interesting how even in a fight he loses, even viciously, he does it heroically, or not pathetically.

 

[First Avenger]

Has Hemsworth read the script? I just read an article in which he discusses the hulk and Thor fight. He says he'd like to think Thor let him win but this time Thor should win. He also said he would explorer the idea of Thor really expanding himself physically.

Which sort of supports the whole "Thor always holds back" thing ����

I don't even think Hulk won in Avengers.

 

[meanmc]

I am disappointed many times with how they presented Thor in the MCU.

My two biggest one:

Hulk punching Thor in New York (to make the people in the cinema laugh) without any response from the God of Thunder!
Man, he would let his hammer speak in response...
They are one team, but he is also a god with pride!!

Thor lost against Kurse without any chance. Okay, Kurse is pretty strong, but even the other Asgardians could defeat some "kursed" opponents at the beginning of the movie - and Thor is much more powerful as all the other Asgardians (execpt Odin).

They need to present Thor "huge" and strong. Till now, he just serves other players in the movies, he was in.
Hulk, Loki, Kurse... He needs a real powerful appearance in his movies, in "Ragnarok".
A movie like "What the hell.. wow..."..

I am not sure, but i think "Ragnarok" turns out like "Hulk helped Thor"...
Would be a very bad idea - sorry!
Thor (and Odin AND Loki) should solve the problems of Asgard by themself, with an all-mighty Odin, an overshining Thor and maybe a Loki, who - again - finally served Asgard!

 

[jaqua99]

http://en.yibada.com/articles/90145/20151130/thor-3-rumors.htm

Idk about this. May not be true, but man I really feel that not only will Rangarok refer to the prophecized destruction of Asgard ONLY it just seems more and more unlikely that Surtur will be present at all

 

[Sleiek]

I am disappointed many times with how they presented Thor in the MCU.

My two biggest one:

Hulk punching Thor in New York (to make the people in the cinema laugh) without any response from the God of Thunder!
Man, he would let his hammer speak in response...
They are one team, but he is also a god with pride!!

Thor lost against Kurse without any chance. Okay, Kurse is pretty strong, but even the other Asgardians could defeat some "kursed" opponents at the beginning of the movie - and Thor is much more powerful as all the other Asgardians (execpt Odin).

They need to present Thor "huge" and strong. Till now, he just serves other players in the movies, he was in.
Hulk, Loki, Kurse... He needs a real powerful appearance in his movies, in "Ragnarok".
A movie like "What the hell.. wow..."..

I am not sure, but i think "Ragnarok" turns out like "Hulk helped Thor"...
Would be a very bad idea - sorry!
Thor (and Odin AND Loki) should solve the problems of Asgard by themself, with an all-mighty Odin, an overshining Thor and maybe a Loki, who - again - finally served Asgard!

Yeah I agree. Thor is my favorite Marvel superhero but Captain America is my favorite in the MCU, and rightly so but Thor is definitely underused.

 

[terry78]

Hulk is more popular with the kiddies. That is the long and short of it.

 

[Sleiek]

Yeah. Obviously. Sucks for Thor fans though.

 

[rashad]

DECEMBER 02, 2015 3:30pm PT by Borys Kit
'Thor 3' Lands New Writer (Exclusive)

Stephany Folsom has been tapped to work on the script for Thor: Ragnarok.

It’s the first move on the Marvel Studios project since early October, when Taika Waititi, who co-wrote and co-directed the vampire spoof What We Do In the Shadows, came on board to helm the project, the third installment of Marvel’s Thor movies.

Chris Hemsworth will be back as the Norse god of thunder for the film that is also due to feature a team-up with the Hulk.

Christopher Yost and Craig Kyle previously worked on the script.

Folsom is the latest female writer to be brought into the Marvel stable, whose stock in trade is a genre that many think of as male-oriented. Marvel already had Nicole Perlman as a writer on Guardians of the Galaxy and she is now writing Captain Marvel with another female screenwriter, Meg LeFauve (Inside Out).

Folsom is best known for her 2013 Black List script 1969: A Space Odyssey or How Kubrick Learned to Stop Worrying and Land on the Moon. The drama earned high marks in its alternate-history telling of a publicist that convinces filmmaker Stanley Kubrick to work with NASA in order to fake the moon landing.

Folsom also wrote script for The Princess of North Sudan, Disney’s unique princess tale inspired by the true account of an American man claiming a territory in Africa and proclaiming himself and his family its royal rulers.

She is repped by Verve and Kaplan/Perrone.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/thor-3-lands-new-writer-845288

 

[First Avenger]

Very interesting creative team they assembled.

 

[BoredGuy]

I don't care for Hemsworth's "more humor" remarks or the fact that they have a comedy director and now apparently somewhat of a comedy writer working on the film.

Yost and Kyle's instincts were right
this is f***ing RAGNAROK

it should not be funny

ya wanna have some jokes? fine, we welcome well timed and appropriate humor
but to compare this to Guardians is all kinds of wrong

 

[CaptainWagner]

Count me among those worried about the level of humor in this. Jokes are fine, but it should not be a "funny movie".

 

[Loki882]

Agreed, this is basically the Norse apocalypse. If anything, it should be closer to TWS in tone (or perhaps even a little darker/more serious than even that) than GOTG (which doesn't fit this concept at all imo).

 

[Zoom]

I understand the concerns, but I don't think Marvel will commit the same mistakes again with this franchise. Not if they want to give us a truly great Thor movie.

 

[Venomfan]

I am disappointed many times with how they presented Thor in the MCU.

My two biggest one:

Hulk punching Thor in New York (to make the people in the cinema laugh) without any response from the God of Thunder!
Man, he would let his hammer speak in response...
They are one team, but he is also a god with pride!!

o man you just made me realize they could have taken that to a whole other level if mjolnir flew back from offscreen and smacked hulk away afterwards.

 

[Napoleon]

Yeah I'm really worried about this movie now. I wasn't a fan of the first two Thor movies because they failed to captured the grand and mythic tone of the character, and it seems that they haven't learned from their mistakes with this. As always though, I will reserve final judgement until I see some footage.

 

[Sleiek]

o man you just made me realize they could have taken that to a whole other level if mjolnir flew back from offscreen and smacked hulk away afterwards.

Good one. This sounds even better. It's a pity.

 

[Loki882]

I am disappointed many times with how they presented Thor in the MCU.

My two biggest one:

Hulk punching Thor in New York (to make the people in the cinema laugh) without any response from the God of Thunder!
Man, he would let his hammer speak in response...
They are one team, but he is also a god with pride!!

Thor lost against Kurse without any chance. Okay, Kurse is pretty strong, but even the other Asgardians could defeat some "kursed" opponents at the beginning of the movie - and Thor is much more powerful as all the other Asgardians (execpt Odin).

They need to present Thor "huge" and strong. Till now, he just serves other players in the movies, he was in.
Hulk, Loki, Kurse... He needs a real powerful appearance in his movies, in "Ragnarok".
A movie like "What the hell.. wow..."..

I am not sure, but i think "Ragnarok" turns out like "Hulk helped Thor"...
Would be a very bad idea - sorry!
Thor (and Odin AND Loki) should solve the problems of Asgard by themself, with an all-mighty Odin, an overshining Thor and maybe a Loki, who - again - finally served Asgard!

I'm actually fine with both of those. The NYC thing was clearly meant to be the Hulk's version of "good natured payback" for Thor smacking him in the face with Mjolnir back on the Helicarrier, and I feel like Thor would understand that idea.

And Kurse in the comics is meant to be like three times as physically strong as Thor if I remember correctly. So if anything, the butt-kicking should have been even more severe. And honestly powering down Kurse was another one of my problems with TDW, he should have been more impressive than that.

 

[BoredGuy]

the Kurse v Thor fight in TDW was so awful.
Kurse smacks hammer away, Kurse punches Thor into the dirt for like 3 seconds, Loki kills Kurse.
weak.

I really want to see like at least a ten minute battle between Thor and a hundred foot tall Surtur (with no comic relief character asides)

 

[AndrewGilkison]

With all due respect to Hemsworth I completely disagree with him on Ragnarok needing "GOTG style humor". For one, it is called Thor RAGNAROK. The end of all things. If anything it should be the darkest Thor movie yet. Second, why chase after another films style of humor? You are just copying another movie because of its success and hoping that success will rub off on your movie but it just makes your movie look like a pale imitation. If the film has to have humor, come up with your own style instead of trying to copy James Gunn.

 

[First Avenger]

So Hems actually wants Thor to join the Guardians. It would be pretty cool in the future imo.

 

[meanmc]

http://en.yibada.com/articles/90145/20151130/thor-3-rumors.htm

Idk about this. May not be true, but man I really feel that not only will Rangarok refer to the prophecized destruction of Asgard ONLY it just seems more and more unlikely that Surtur will be present at all

I am sure, that we will see something like this - and i do not expect Sutur, unfortunatelly!

I think Loki has to save Thor at the end. Just hope, that they show a strong Odin, and also a strong Thor in the movie.

 

[terry78]

I am starting to get this vibe from Hemsworth that he mat be more into comedy than other roles.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Hmm... I am not getting the most reassuring feelings about this. Granted, the Russo's delivered a solidly told action thriller in TWS after coming from comedy... But I would feel a lot better if the announcements were filled with talk about how this is going to be grand and serious and character driven. Instead it feels like everything points to humor and Shiva H. Vishnu, that was a big part of TDW annoying the crap out of me after I ADORED the first film. I hope as production ramps up there is some stressing the seriousness of the story, and sorry to all the people that rant the loudest about "gritty serious" CBM's but I don't go to super hero films to yuck it up exclusively or primarily. As a kid reading these characters while there was humor here and there, the "fun" wasn't in some wink-wink, quip every page approach. The "fun" was in fact in taking this over the top material seriously.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

oh my, the 'fun is evil' brigade has conquered this thread.

you all realize, that if you want to have a miserable time at the cinema, there are still Snyder movies for you to look forward to, right?