Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[First Avenger]

So many people are already taking his jokes for serious.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Seeing that one of them is involved, I wonder if story ideas that were abandoned or cut for time or what have you when Yost and Kyle were working on the HULK VS. THOR DTV got a chance to be integrated into this film in some way?

 

[MadVillainy]

So many people are already taking his jokes for serious.

Yeah when I first saw the headline on IMDB I thought he was serious and was actually about to post it here.

But when you watch the video it's clear he was joking

 

[First Avenger]

Yeah when I first saw the headline on IMDB I thought he was serious and was actually about to post it here.

But when you watch the video it's clear he was joking

Yeah he's just joking and everyone's laughing. Of course he can't say anything right now. His tweets are very funny too.

 

[Zant]

Why are people afraid of more jokes in this film. Road trip films are filled with jokes. I expect a lot in this film.

 

[MadVillainy]

Why are people afraid of more jokes in this film. Road trip films are filled with jokes. I expect a lot in this film.

Because imo, and others, TDW had too many jokes. Adding more to that is overkill.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Wait so the comment wasn't a serious one? Whew

 

[doink]

So many people are already taking his jokes for serious.

Yup...the press tour for this movie is sure going to be fun, I can tell you that I want the director to just keep trolling people in interviews from now on, it's a good way of hiding spoilers

And the problem with TDW's jokes wasn't that there were jokes in it at all but that most of them were badly written jokes. There were some jokes that did work (mostly involving Loki, like when Loki turned into Cap, and his banter with Thor...also when Thor hung his hammer on the coat rack) but a lot of it didn't flow well.
I think most of the comic relief in T:R will come from Hulk and his interactions with Thor and the others IMO. I'm more hopeful that it'll work better considering the people involved this time around.

 

[kguillou]

I don't mind some humor but...this film is about RAGNAROK. I would imagine the tone for this movie to be pretty serious.

 

[MadVillainy]

All I want is a Winter Soldier-first Iron Man tone.
Actually that's the tone I want for most of the Marvel films.

I feel that the Thor movies had so much potential and they've never capitalized on it. TOne isn't right, scope isn't big enough, etc.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

The tone of the first one was perfect

 

[MadVillainy]

I think it was good for the first movie to intro the character; same with the scope. But i wouldve liked to see it a little more serious in the sequels. No I dont mean like X-Men/X2 or TDKS dark but as I said more in like with WS

 

[The Ironstar]

Anyone remember the storyline when Odin was on earth during the 70's?

 

[Mike Murdock]

I remember a story like that. But I'll be honest, I can't really keep them apart. Wasn't he a farmer or something?

 

[The Ironstar]

I am dying to see this on screen...

Y talking about her outfit?

 

[The Ironstar]

I remember a story like that. But I'll be honest, I can't really keep them apart. Wasn't he a farmer or something?

Y! Can't remember what he called himself. I only found this.

 

[First Avenger]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/3...aititi-on-how-hes-changing-things-up#/slide/1

A more serious statement. He basically wants to reinvent the character. Sounds promising.

 

[Invader34]

On the topic of reinvention I would love to see an attempt at Thor's classic costume for this film. After seeing all the amazing work Michael Wilkinson has done for DC, adapting classic uniforms straight from the page onto the screen, I would wonder what he could come up with for Thor's classic outfit.

 

[First Avenger]

I know you can’t talk much about it, but you’re transitioning. You’re doing the Sundance movies and now you’re doing the giant blockbuster Thor: Ragnarok. How much freedom is there for you to innovate like that?

"Well, I guess we’ll see once we get on set. I think on set it’s a different story. It’s basically about coming in under budget. [Laughs.] That’s all it’s about. If you come in under budget and on time you can do what you want, really. Just stick to what the idea of the story is. I always do that. And I’ve talked a lot about my style and the way I work on set, which is very improvisational. I make up a lot of shots on the spot sometimes but I always have a plan. I always plan what I’m going to do and then I’ll throw that plan away when I see what the actors want to do, and then we have to come to a common ground and figure that out."

Is there a danger with that, once you get a huge budget, where you can just say “We’ll add it in CGI and we’ll figure it out later?”

"There will definitely be that danger, yeah, but as much as possible I like to shoot practically and on locations. This will be very different for me but luckily I’ve done a lot of commercials before, some big ones, so I’m used to changing pace on bigger sets. There’s a lot of waiting around, and nobody likes to wait around while they’re setting up green screens and weird CG stuff. But yeah, these movies are so big that they have to."

Did they come to you or did you have to pitch them?

"They came to me and asked me to pitch."

Did you pitch Thor or did you pitch them something random?

"No, I was asked to pitch on Thor. They watched Shadows obviously, and they watched Boy, and I think the combination of those two films, you get that I wasn’t just like a crazy comedy director or too dramatic. They wanted to weave a little bit away from that."

What was your take on it that was so successful? What did the other directors not tell them?

"I have no idea, actually. I have no idea. I did a sizzle reel for the tone, and some joke stuff."

What sort of stuff is on the sizzle reel for something like this? I remember Kenneth Branagh kept talking about David Lynch’s Dune, and you can see it in the sets. I’m curious what came to your mind.

"I don’t even know… Basically how I pitched it was like, he just needs to be the most interesting character."

That would be nice. I think we missed that last time.

"Yeah, if you’re going to call the movie Thor, Thor has to be the best character."

 

[BatsDC]

Geek.com is at it again - this time details on how Hulk gets involved:

What we’ve learned has lined up with what Ruffalo is sharing, plus a long-standing rumor about the future of the Hulk dating back to fandom’s post-Avengers cries in 2013. Back then, audiences were enthralled by that movie’s version of The Hulk and how he was funny, well-powered, and not a drag like he had been in the two previous Hulk movies that made it to screens.

The rumour was that Marvel was planning to weave the character through the Avengers “Phases” in a creative way, banishing the Hulk from Earth after Avengers 2, spinning off into his own Planet Hulk movie (based on the Greg Pak comics storyline of the same name) and returning him to Earth in Phase Three in some sort of World War Hulk (also a comic book storyline) Avengers movie. The specifics of that arc were outright denied by Marvel staff over and over again, leading up to Joss Whedon’s follow-up (Avengers: Age of Ultron) and after the Hulk mysteriously steals a Quinjet and disappears at the end of that movie.

When Joss Whedon was asked if Planet Hulk or World War Hulk were going to be a Phase Three movies, his response was: “Well I’m really not supposed to comment, but no, that’s nonsense.” Which is what makes what follows all the more amazing.

According to our sources, after Thor catches on to Hela and Loki’s (still mysterious) plot that is going down in Asgard, Hela destroys Mjolnir, and banishes Thor from Asgard. Loki and Hela’s plan involves the major arc of the Marvel Universe, and just when it looks like Thor is about to put a stop to it, he gets banished — but not to any old planet. He ends up on a gladiatorial planet where his head is shaved and he’s forced to fight for his life. Let’s call this planet Sakaar, like it was in the comic books.

Thor knows that he has to get to some MacGuffin weapon object to defeat Hela and Loki (could this be the Infinity Gauntlet that Thanos is in possession of, or maybe an assemblage of Infinity Stones?) and he has to get off the planet. Thor runs through all of his alien opponents in gladiatorial combat, even without his trademark hammer. Finally, Thor has to face the current champion of the arena, and wouldn’t you know who that ends up being? The Hulk.

When we reconnect with Hulk in Thor: Ragnarok, he’s managed to avoid reverting back to the Banner state since we last saw him in the Quinjet in Avengers: Age of Ultron. Hulk in Hulk form is pretty much unkillable, so he survived the trip to Sakaar (however he got there). His “Banner” is starting to seep through into the Hulk persona, and because of the Hulk-Banner melding, Hulk actually remembers Thor and his relationship to him. That’s what starts the two on a Midnight Run to the MacGuffin that Thor desperately needs.

Some of these details could shift like the sands of time considering the shooting script for Thor: Ragnarok hasn’t been locked down, but sources confirm that the outline is there: Marvel found a way to include the Planet Hulk storyline without having to attempt a solo Hulk movie where everyone is a CGI character, not to mention dealing with the character’s solo movie rights (which has some sort of hold-up with Universal). Instead, gladiator Chris Hemsworth will be the audience’s focus as Thor picks up Hulk on his road-trip through the stars.

Geek.com

 

[BoredGuy]

Given Waititi's comments on how early they are in developing the story, even if that rumor was accurate at some point, I seriously doubt it is now. Way too much information when the director still doesn't even know what characters are all in the movie.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I'm still a bit concerned about this movie. This franchise honestly should be the most "fantastic" Marvel has.

 

[First Avenger]

Aside from these 'scoops',I like What Waititi said so far.

 

[Zarex]

Y! Can't remember what he called himself. I only found this.

He was migrant farmhand Orrin. He smacked around some local toughs after they questioned the propriety of his spending time with a young widow and saved the woman's son by throwing his body into the path of a runaway tractor.

 

[Superhero 101]

Geek.com is at it again - this time details on how Hulk gets involved:



Geek.com

Hope this isn't true