Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 5

[AlluAllu]

Interesting thing to note is Mjolnir's behaviour during climax of The Dark World. It changed direction every time Thor and Malekith hopped from realm to realm. That implies that it might be possible to travel to different realms through physical space.

Imo Mjolnir's behaviour was the most interesting thing about that movie.

 

[Bren]

Interesting thing to note is Mjolnir's behaviour during climax of The Dark World. It changed direction every time Thor and Malekith hopped from realm to realm. That implies that it might be possible to travel to different realms through physical space.

That's what I thought. But that would make Asgardians simple aliens where I'd have preferred them to be beings from a different dimension (since they aren't 'gods')...

I know see the 9 Realms as being in the same plane of existence.

 

[InCali]

Think that was hyperbole.

I mean..Dormammu was powerful enough consume planets.

Wasn't Dormammu in another universe, though?

In the early DS comics, Dormammu attacked Eternity and that didn't turn out too well for him. Because of that, I always thought of him as being a step down from the top tier of power.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Ragnarok trailer next month.... let that sink in.

 

[StarLord]

I'm expecting colours galore like that GOTG trailer. Beautiful.

 

[Panacea]

I'm expecting colours galore like that GOTG trailer. Beautiful.

I wouldn't expect too much so early, most of the CG shots will still likely be unfinished at this point.

 

[Vartha]

I've always thought Asgard was on a higher plain of reality in the comics. A level higher than ours in a spiritual manner.
In the MCU however, I think Asgard is in an OLDER part of the same universe. The further out you go from Asgard, the less advanced you are in many ways.

The Nine Realms thing has always puzzled me. Like it seems that the Asgardians only take those nine places into account. Xander, the Dark Dimension, wherever the heck Thanos and his floating space throne is right now, etc. Do these places just not count or something?

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Perhaps there is a physical or meta physical connection between the realms: one that hasn't been revealed as of yet. What say the comics? (Never a dedicated Thor reader. Mostly teamups)

Has anyone read/heard that Gaea is in this? I figured they dropped that subplot early on.

 

[legendkillin]

I'm expecting colours galore like that GOTG trailer. Beautiful.

I am expecting a great narrative voice over from either Thor, Loki, or Surtur.

 

[Finarfiniel]

I'm expecting colours galore like that GOTG trailer. Beautiful.

I agree, it sounds like they'll be taking a lot of inspiration from the art of Jack Kirby which means lots of bright colours and trippy, elaborate visuals. Bring it on.

Perhaps there is a physical or meta physical connection between the realms: one that hasn't been revealed as of yet. What say the comics? (Never a dedicated Thor reader. Mostly teamups)

Has anyone read/heard that Gaea is in this? I figured they dropped that subplot early on.

The connection is Yggdrasil, whatever Yggdrasil truly is. Some kind of inter-dimensional system that somehow connects these nine separate planets or realms/dimensions together and looks like a massive space tree, lol. I don't recall that it's ever been elaborated on in the comics and it definitely hasn't in the films. Of course, it's all originally taken from Norse mythology.

There's been no hint of Gaea being in this. Tbh, I can't really see them going that deep into the comics mythology in the MCU, I may be wrong though.

 

[Vartha]

I agree, it sounds like they'll be taking a lot of inspiration from the art of Jack Kirby which means lots of bright colours and trippy, elaborate visuals. Bring it on.



The connection is Yggdrasil, whatever Yggdrasil truly is. Some kind of inter-dimensional system that somehow connects these nine separate planets or realms/dimensions together and looks like a massive space tree, lol. I don't recall that it's ever been elaborated on in the comics and it definitely hasn't in the films. Of course, it's all originally taken from Norse mythology.

There's been no hint of Gaea being in this. Tbh, I can't really see them going that deep into the comics mythology in the MCU, I may be wrong though.

They have in both. Look at the VERY end in the end credits. That IS the Yggdrasil nebula. Now I added what I personally thought what realms were where in the nebula from the movie

 

[jaqua99]

They have in both. Look at the VERY end in the end credits. That IS the Yggdrasil nebula. Now I added what I personally thought what realms were where in the nebula from the movie

Maybe Yggdrasil is another dimension. If that nebuls represents Yggdrasil, logically, it's not a physical nebula in our universe.

Midgard/Earth is in the milkyway Galaxy. Perhaps Ygddrasil is a seperate dimension of dimensional space that connects different worlds in the physical plane.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So do the other 8 planets exist in the MCU? It seems like it does not.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

So do the other 8 planets exist in the MCU? It seems like it does not.

just because it hasn't been mentioned in the MCU that our star system consists of 9 planets, you assume they don't exist?

 

[AlluAllu]

Thanos was called titan in GOTG. But it probably wont mean moon of Saturn in MCU.

 

[scarlet-witch]

Ragnarok trailer next month.... let that sink in.

 

[Dr. Evil]

just because it hasn't been mentioned in the MCU that our star system consists of 9 planets, you assume they don't exist?

Based on that map of the Nine Realms it doesn't.

 

[jaqua99]

Thanos was called titan in GOTG. But it probably wont mean moon of Saturn in MCU.

I would love it if Thanos was part of an ancient civilizatioj on Titan

 

[Finarfiniel]

They have in both. Look at the VERY end in the end credits. That IS the Yggdrasil nebula. Now I added what I personally thought what realms were where in the nebula from the movie

Yeah, I know that Yggdrasil has been seen in the films (and Thor tells Jane that the Nine Realms are connected by 'the branches of Yggdrasil' in the first film), what I mean is that I don't think the films (or the comics but I may be wrong) have ever tried to explain what Yggdrasil actually is.

Based on that map of the Nine Realms it doesn't.

That's not how the Nine Realms work though, at least in my interpretation. I think each of the Nine Realms are separate planets that exist on separate dimensional planes and are somehow linked to each other by Yggdrasil. So Earth/Midgard still exists in our universe in the MCU (along with our usual Solar System, e.t.c) and Asgard exists in a different dimension, as do the other Nine Realms, but Yggdrasil somehow reaches across the various dimensions and links them all together.

It makes your brain hurt if you think about it too much.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Ragnarok trailer next month.... let that sink in.

Gimme some sweet Thor/Hulk battle goodness trailer gods.

 

[jaqua99]

Yeah, I know that Yggdrasil has been seen in the films (and Thor tells Jane that the Nine Realms are connected by 'the branches of Yggdrasil' in the first film), what I mean is that I don't think the films (or the comics but I may be wrong) have ever tried to explain what Yggdrasil actually is.



That's not how the Nine Realms work though, at least in my interpretation. I think each of the Nine Realms are separate planets that exist on separate dimensional planes and are somehow linked to each other by Yggdrasil. So Earth/Midgard still exists in our universe in the MCU (along with our usual Solar System, e.t.c) and Asgard exists in a different dimension, as do the other Nine Realms, but Yggdrasil somehow reaches across the various dimensions and links them all together.

It makes your brain hurt if you think about it too much.

This is what I think too

 

[Loki882]

My only real concern about Hulk appearing is that it might lead to the Asgardian cast once again being woefully underused. Because after two movies, they've done very like with said cast. And with Hulk in the mix, I fear that they STILL might not get their do, which would be a shame.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

My only real concern about Hulk appearing is that it might lead to the Asgardian cast once again being woefully underused. Because after two movies, they've done very like with said cast. And with Hulk in the mix, I fear that they STILL might not get their do, which would be a shame.

I accept at this point that it's just baked in that the MCU isn't going to ever get around to using Sif or the Warriors Three to their full potential. Much less ever get to Balder or Enchantress or a host of other awesome, made for the big screen characters.

 

[Vartha]

Maybe Yggdrasil is another dimension. If that nebuls represents Yggdrasil, logically, it's not a physical nebula in our universe.

Midgard/Earth is in the milkyway Galaxy. Perhaps Ygddrasil is a seperate dimension of dimensional space that connects different worlds in the physical plane.

My understanding from Dark World, Yggdrasil is in the same dimension because it's all what the Dark Elves wanted to take over that includes the other nine Realms/Planets.
The Milky way is just a TINY TINY part on/in the Yggdrasil Universe-nebula as a Galaxy
Think of the worm holes as veins in the trees for example. Like the short cuts Loki knows about, they're all over in different ways

So do the other 8 planets exist in the MCU? It seems like it does not.

you mean other 4? Vanaheim was shown and Svartelheim is the Dark Elf world. Worlds in this Nebula have different aspects. Joutunheim was originally drawn like the rings of Saturn but without a planet, flat, and scattered planetoids, Asgard and Midgard

just because it hasn't been mentioned in the MCU that our star system consists of 9 planets, you assume they don't exist?

 

[Vartha]

Yggdrasil to me, is ALL of the Existing physical Universe, represented as nebula gases and energies you'd see in a forming Galaxy but on a MUCH MUCH larger scale.