Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 9

[HammerDown]

The Thor vs Hulk is definitely going to be a big highlight of the movie. Having said that there's so much more goodness... If that fight already looks sweet imagine the other fights envolving Thor, Hela, Surtur, Hulk, Fenris, Valkyrie, Loki, Skurge...

 

[Iceman]

The Thor vs Hulk is definitely going to be a big highlight of the movie. Having said that there's so much more goodness... If that fight already looks sweet imagine the other fights envolving Thor, Hela, Surtur, Hulk, Fenris, Valkyrie, Loki, Skurge...

I'm looking forward to when they team up even more.

 

[legendkillin]

The Thor vs Hulk is definitely going to be a big highlight of the movie. Having said that there's so much more goodness... If that fight already looks sweet imagine the other fights envolving Thor, Hela, Surtur, Hulk, Fenris, Valkyrie, Loki, Skurge...

I think they are selling it hard for GA. Most of us that follow the MCU hard and comic books are possibly more into the other characters we have not seen.

I am into the Hulk vs Thor fight but it likely takes place in the middle of the movie. No way should it be the main spectacle and everything else kind of pale in comparison. I want the team up and conversation between the two.

 

[jaqua99]

Some new footage of the Thor vs. Hulk fight.
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Hmm, it appears the lightning uppercut was removed. The early cgi showed Thor winning that collision with lightning. In this trailer, he gets stomped into the ground

It also appears Hulk wins that collision, and the last scene is Thor getting smacked away.

I think the fight will end without Thor looking bad but it's definitely being marketed as a "Hulk smash all" movie. Deny it all you want, but it's clear.

 

[Solaire]

I think it was just a quick cut to a different moment. One second they're in the air, next Hulk is smashing him.

 

[Mjölnir]

Hmm, it appears the lightning uppercut was removed. The early cgi showed Thor winning that collision with lightning. In this trailer, he gets stomped into the ground

It also appears Hulk wins that collision, and the last scene is Thor getting smacked away.

I think the fight will end without Thor looking bad but it's definitely being marketed as a "Hulk smash all" movie. Deny it all you want, but it's clear.

Thor being smacked away is one of the earliest shots from the fight by the looks of it, as it's done with a weapon. The logical assumption is that they use weapons early, as they start with them in hand, and go to hand to hand when they've lost them during the battle (dropped them, they broke, etc).

As for Thor being stomped to into the ground in that exchange, I'm with Solaire in that I think that's a fast cut to a different part of the scene since it goes way too quickly from air to the ground compared to the height they jump to, which we saw at the end of the teaser. Trailer cutting is often about intercutting scenes, or lines, so it comes off as something else.

 

[BigThor]

Hmm, it appears the lightning uppercut was removed. The early cgi showed Thor winning that collision with lightning. In this trailer, he gets stomped into the ground

It also appears Hulk wins that collision, and the last scene is Thor getting smacked away.

I think the fight will end without Thor looking bad but it's definitely being marketed as a "Hulk smash all" movie. Deny it all you want, but it's clear.

Lol calm down that scene where Hulk smashes the ground is from a different part of the fight than the uppercut. That shot was already used in the official trailer.

I also TOLD everyone one they were going to remove that lightning from the shot. I don't know why people keep insisting on seeing it happen.

If anything I feel like this TV spot favored Thor and showed him in a better light than Hulk I was pleased.

 

[CoherentChaos]

It's obviously a cut to a different part of the fight but jaqua may have a point about them removing the lightning uppercut.

The reveal was made in trailer 2, and they rolled out new footage for this little spot (presumably put together sorta recently to coincide with tonight's match) so why not roll out an updated version of the leaping uppercut?

 

[wobbly]

Hmm, it appears the lightning uppercut was removed. The early cgi showed Thor winning that collision with lightning. In this trailer, he gets stomped into the ground

It also appears Hulk wins that collision, and the last scene is Thor getting smacked away.

I think the fight will end without Thor looking bad but it's definitely being marketed as a "Hulk smash all" movie. Deny it all you want, but it's clear.

Going by the snippets I think they will make it clear Hulk is the stronger (one whack launches Thor into the arena wall), but Thor is the better fighter (dodging Hulks big swings and counter punching to his gut and face). Not unlike their fight in Avengers really. Thor had the better moves there, though Hulk was slapping him about before the Jet opened fire on them both.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have Thor win the arena fight through skill over brawn, but it wont be 'easily' as he suggests to Banner.

 

[jaqua99]

Lol calm down that scene where Hulk smashes the ground is from a different part of the fight than the uppercut. That shot was already used in the official trailer.

I also TOLD everyone one they were going to remove that lightning from the shot. I don't know why people keep insisting on seeing it happen.

If anything I feel like this TV spot favored Thor and showed him in a better light than Hulk I was pleased.

Calm as can be. Just how I interpreted it. Believe me, with the Kyrie Irving drama going on right now, I had no emotional reaction to this tv spot

 

[HammerDown]

Hmm, it appears the lightning uppercut was removed. The early cgi showed Thor winning that collision with lightning. In this trailer, he gets stomped into the ground

It also appears Hulk wins that collision, and the last scene is Thor getting smacked away.

I think the fight will end without Thor looking bad but it's definitely being marketed as a "Hulk smash all" movie. Deny it all you want, but it's clear.

This spot was clearly made to capitalize on the boxing fight and help marketing the big showdown before Thor and Hulk. There's no reason to "waste" the lightning move in such a small spot and so far away from the movie release. The focus of the new footage was on punches, combinations and evading the adversary like it should be in relation to the boxing match.

The collision is still exactly the same. We just haven't seen the lightning being added and we don't know what follows that collision because most likely that's what "decides" the match. And as we have seen before Thor has the upper hand with that uppercut that knock Hulk hard in the face.

There's a moment that Thor gets stomped into the ground as it was already shown in the Official Trailer. That is just a cut from a different part of the fight. Nor the follow up of the collision. Most people realize that as you could tell from other comments.

It's not clear at all what you are saying and the evidence is everyone is pointing out to a different outcome of those scenes being arranged in a certain manner. That much is clear. Is just you making assumptions and being pessimistic. Relax. Thor will look good.

I firmly believe that the lightning effect is going to be shown later in the marketing campaign and as the movie comes closer to the release date. That's for me what brings Thor up to Hulks level even without mjolnir. Being able to control lightning at will.

 

[CoherentChaos]

(terrible quality but its the best I know how to do right now)

 

[The Ironstar]

I want to see some more characters from other realms in this too.

How many realms have we truly seen in the Thor movies. Earth/Midgard, Asgard, Jotunheim(Frost), and where the Dark Elves use to be.

In this we should see Hel, Surtur/Muspelheim, and maybe Vanaheimr or Thor meets one of the people from there and they tell him the future(Thanos arriving).

 

[Zant]

If the Hulkbuster could knock Hulk out, its fair to say Thor would put up more of a fight against Hulk.

 

[BigThor]

If the Hulkbuster could knock Hulk out, its fair to say Thor would put up more of a fight against Hulk.

Yep, it's just that simple .

Going by the snippets I think they will make it clear Hulk is the stronger (one whack launches Thor into the arena wall), but Thor is the better fighter (dodging Hulks big swings and counter punching to his gut and face).

Well to be fair, Hulk hit Thor with a giant hammer and Thor hit Hulk with his bare fists.

But yeah Hulk definitely should be stronger, I mean that is his only advantage.

 

[Finarfiniel]

I would also pay to watch a movie just about her story. Goddess Cate.

Hela origin movie, get on it Marvel!

I think they are selling it hard for GA. Most of us that follow the MCU hard and comic books are possibly more into the other characters we have not seen.

I am into the Hulk vs Thor fight but it likely takes place in the middle of the movie. No way should it be the main spectacle and everything else kind of pale in comparison. I want the team up and conversation between the two.

Agreed to this. As much as I'm excited about the Thor vs Hulk part of Ragnarok, in all honesty it's not even in the top five reasons I'm excited about this movie. There's going to be so much more to the film than that. Focusing on it in the marketing is actually a pretty genius move from Marvel though, because they can create lots of hype amongst the GA by pitting these two popular characters against each other without really spoiling much about the rest of the film and the other important events and characters.

 

[Iceman]

The Thor Vs Hulk fight is not a highlight for me, the rest of the film is the highlight lol.

 

[metaphysician]

You know, this clip just reinforces the sense I get, that in raw muscle power, Thor is actually *stronger* than the Hulk. The difference is, Thor is maybe 250 pounds, while the Hulk is more like a thousand pounds. Thor's muscles are better, but Hulk has *more* of them, a lot more. If the Hulk were somehow shrunk down to Thor's own height, the fight would only be a moderately difficult, but very certain, win for Thor.

 

[jaqua99]

You know, this clip just reinforces the sense I get, that in raw muscle power, Thor is actually *stronger* than the Hulk. The difference is, Thor is maybe 250 pounds, while the Hulk is more like a thousand pounds. Thor's muscles are better, but Hulk has *more* of them, a lot more. If the Hulk were somehow shrunk down to Thor's own height, the fight would only be a moderately difficult, but very certain, win for Thor.

I think what you mean, is Thor is pound-for-pound stronger

Which he is

 

[jaqua99]

This spot was clearly made to capitalize on the boxing fight and help marketing the big showdown before Thor and Hulk. There's no reason to "waste" the lightning move in such a small spot and so far away from the movie release. The focus of the new footage was on punches, combinations and evading the adversary like it should be in relation to the boxing match.

The collision is still exactly the same. We just haven't seen the lightning being added and we don't know what follows that collision because most likely that's what "decides" the match. And as we have seen before Thor has the upper hand with that uppercut that knock Hulk hard in the face.

There's a moment that Thor gets stomped into the ground as it was already shown in the Official Trailer. That is just a cut from a different part of the fight. Nor the follow up of the collision. Most people realize that as you could tell from other comments.

It's not clear at all what you are saying and the evidence is everyone is pointing out to a different outcome of those scenes being arranged in a certain manner. That much is clear. Is just you making assumptions and being pessimistic. Relax. Thor will look good.

I firmly believe that the lightning effect is going to be shown later in the marketing campaign and as the movie comes closer to the release date. That's for me what brings Thor up to Hulks level even without mjolnir. Being able to control lightning at will.

Hulk hammering into the ground was new footage.

But it is irrelvant. As I told BT, I am not upset by this. What I am bothered by, is this Kyrie Irving trade blowing up. Not pessimism, just my interpretation of the clip and how the fight is being marketed. I SAID in the post Thor won't come out of that fight looking bad.

For the most part, I was just talking about the way the fight is being marketed, which is different than how I think the fight is gonna go. Aside from the lightning, maybe they did remove that. Oh well. Different interpretations are okay..it isn't offensive or anything. I am still more than excited for this movie.

 

[HunBoy]

 

[Iceman]

You know, this clip just reinforces the sense I get, that in raw muscle power, Thor is actually *stronger* than the Hulk. The difference is, Thor is maybe 250 pounds, while the Hulk is more like a thousand pounds. Thor's muscles are better, but Hulk has *more* of them, a lot more. If the Hulk were somehow shrunk down to Thor's own height, the fight would only be a moderately difficult, but very certain, win for Thor.

Hulk be even punier than Thor if he Thor's puny size. t:

 

[Mjölnir]

That's a funny reaction, and more Kirby goodness in the background. Of course it makes the brain start speculating even more about what's going on in the arena.

 

[HammerDown]

Love it! That reaction is so familiar in so many ways. t:
I bet that's Loki reaction to a big hit by Thor. Can't freaking wait for this movie.

 

[HammerDown]