The Dark Knight Rises Two-Face to return?...Maybe

[Rac]

Oh Jesus.

He even mentions Depp and Angelina.

*slams head on desk

Uh. Eckhart has a ****** taste.

And Two-Face's dead. He ain't coming back.

 

[The Joker]

Two-Face is dead.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Police reached the place right when Batman was leaving. They must have seen Dent's body and called an ambulance. So unless they all agreed on this weird plan of Gordon and Batman, Dent's death had to be documented. And since we all saw the eulogy, it's clear what was Dent's condition. Not to mention that Dent wasn't breathing when Batman manipulated his head.

There was nothing ambiguous about his death.

This post takes into account logic, which means it must immediately be thrown out and disregarded.

 

[Mastodon123]

Hit the nail dead center on the head my friend.

I don't like the script excuse either, because the script for BB also said that Ras died in the opening quarter. Low and behold we find out that Ducard was Ras all along. The script isn't a Bible, the script is what they want the audience to think at that given page.

Another point against the script excuse is the The Empire Strikes Back Script. In the script it says Obi Won killed your father, not No, I am your father. Just because its in the script doesn't make it true.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Another point against the script excuse is the The Empire Strikes Back Script. In the script it says Obi Won killed your father, not No, I am your father. Just because its in the script doesn't make it true.

And both the actor and director confirming he is "dead as a doornail" doesn't make it true either?

Oh wait.... they just want you to THINK that! Or.... or it could mean an umm.... metaphorical death of Harvey Dent as Two-Face is born!

Of course there's a chance Two-Face could be brought back from the dead for the next film. But that's what would be happening. Bringing him back from the dead. Because right now, unless future developments show us otherwise, I'd say Harvey's dead.

 

[sauronthegreat]

Wow I just can't believe that there still are people who believe that somehow Harvey Dent isn't dead. It was too obvious... Dent is DEAD! That's the good thing about 'The Dark Knight', that it wasn't just a comic book film, but just a great film. With a fantastic script, complex themes and great character developments.
Why there are people who want to destroy all those things that 'The Dark Knight' accomplished?

 

[Two-Face]

Wow I just can't believe that there still are people who believe that somehow Harvey Dent isn't dead. It was too obvious... Dent is DEAD! That's the good thing about 'The Dark Knight', that it wasn't just a comic book film, but just a great film. With a fantastic script, complex themes and great character developments.
Why there are people who want to destroy all those things that 'The Dark Knight' accomplished?

Dent is dead but not Two-Face.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Police reached the place right when Batman was leaving. They must have seen Dent's body and called an ambulance. So unless they all agreed on this weird plan of Gordon and Batman, Dent's death had to be documented. And since we all saw the eulogy, it's clear what was Dent's condition. Not to mention that Dent wasn't breathing when Batman manipulated his head.

There was nothing ambiguous about his death.

For me it was ambiguous, and for many movie goers it was as well as Ive been asked the is dent dead question which also lurked around this boards up until nolan and co mentioned he is dead. It simply isnt clear to the current facts specially now that weve heard originally no and now maybe rumours. It may be obvious to you cause you are making assumptions as to what happens between scenes, but the truth is that none of that is confirmed. Lots of things can be done to incorporate the character again. To me the coin falling on the good side when he falls also seemed like a hint, but thats up to the viewer to interpret the meaning of that.

We dont see his body at the funeral, and Batman and Gordon dont mention the body expired dead on the scene. The persona of Harvey Dent the public figure had his funeral, but they can easily bring TwoFace in considering that the ending did not erase without a shadow of a doubt the fact that he is alive.

 

[Mastodon123]

Don't you guys remember that plot outline that leaked a about a year before TDK came out that everyone thought was fake, and turned out to be true? It said Dent's death was a comic book death.
It could either way. No one whats going though Nolan's head, or whats hes doing for a 3rd film. Who knows he could be keeping things pretty close to the chest with Two-Face's fate.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

The producer of the film said so herself that the fate of Two-Face was left purposely ambiguous. You see what could either be a funeral or a memorial when Gordon is speaking. You don't know exactly what they told the public about Dent and what happened. Dent may very well be knocked out on the ground, which, to me, explains why nobody checks his pulse or seems very upset that he had to be killed to save Gordon's son. The whole movie revolved around Dent. Gordon even pulls a gun on Batman at one point, saying, "I have to save Dent."

The cops at the scene were ordered by Gordon to chase after Batman, so it's possible that they never got to see Dent's body.

Having Two-Face in the third film wouldn't be "bringing him back from the dead." It would only be revealing to the audience the full story, of which the public is unaware. It's called dramatic irony. Right now, we're in the same boat as the people of Gotham; we think Harvey's dead in the story because that's what it looks like and that is what we're being told, but just like Gordon is lying about Batman, he could be lying about Dent.

Also, Batman can't be chased by the police forever. He'll have to be exonerated eventually. Otherwise we can't have anymore rooftop meetings next to the bat signal, and villains won't seem as villainous to the public since everyone thinks Batman is evil as well.

 

[Steelsheen]

One things for certain, the filmmakers gave themselves a leeway by showing that Harvey Dent is dead, but doesnt say anything point blank about Two-Face in the end. in fact it was either Christopher Nolan or his wife Emma that said that they purposely left Dent's ending elusive so that if they needed to bring him back they can. this was in an interview somewhere. i cant believe we, and those inane people at MTV, are still wondering about this.

 

[Anjow1060]

even i have to admit, and i'm usually quite skeptical to the 2face loyalists....

that laugh was very, as the reporter put it, "knowing."

I just don't hope they're not bringing back 2face just because they can't bring back Joker? Like a swap out or w/e. Idk. Who really knows what's going on in their minds.

What we DO know is that Nolan is on board, and right around now would be a smart time for him to start figuring out when they'll be filming and who he'll be needing. In other words, he would be telling Eckhart right around now, "Don't take any jobs from ______ to ______ of next year. We need you for B3". Which would mean that Eckhart knows he could be back but doesn't know about anything in detail.

Idk, I'm always open to it if they do it right and for the right reasons.

- Jow

- Jow

 

[Bathead]

All I'm saying is at this point nothing is definite, I could see it going either way. To declare that Two-Face is ABSOLUTELY dead or ABSOLUTELY alive is premature at this point. Nolan has a history about being circumspect about his next Batmanproject. It's likely even he's not absolutely sure at this point. At one point he supposedly had considered making the Joker Permawhite (TM) but changed his mind. Who's to say he won't change his mind about TF's circumstance, whatever it may be?

 

[DeGenerate10]

He's dead, Jim.

 

[Borat]

I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

 

[Symbiotic]

I'm always open to it if they do it right and for the right reasons.

Here here.

 

[kid dropper]

Dent is dead but not Two-Face.

Yeh, but seeing as how Two Face inhabited Dent's (now dead) body, He'd be kind of assed out, wouldnt he? Are you suggesting Two Face live on as some disembodied evil spirit, like in Jason Goes To Hell?

 

[Jick]

Oh man, this again...
Didn't Nolan say Two-Face was deader than a doornail?

 

[El Payaso]

Oh man, this again...
Didn't Nolan say Two-Face was deader than a doornail?

Yes.

In fact no one said Ra's al ghul was dead but i knew it all the time.

 

[Anjow1060]

Oh man, this again...
Didn't Nolan say Two-Face was deader than a doornail?

Nolan says a lot of things.

*hangs up phone, and sits - pouting in his camping gear*

(anyone? anyone?)

- Jow

 

[Two-Face]

Yeh, but seeing as how Two Face inhabited Dent's (now dead) body, He'd be kind of assed out, wouldnt he? Are you suggesting Two Face live on as some disembodied evil spirit, like in Jason Goes To Hell?

I was joking...

 

[kid dropper]

They should also have a new love interest, a psychologist, played by Nicole Kidman.

Ha! good one! but who wouldnt want to see a riddler/two face combo again, done right? so much wasted potential....

 

[kid dropper]

I was joking...

ok, sorry, you never know around here

 

[cerealkiller182]

A way of bringing back Dent I thought was to say Gordan starts a Batman task force for appearances sake and has Bullock, who is not a fan of Batman, putting a lot of blame on batman for killing Dent. So in the end in a little scene Bullock is brought to Arkham and Gordon shows him Dent, who is doing better psychologically, and spills the beans on his actions being swept under the rug. A big con is how much time will Bullock have(or if he'll even be introduced)

 

[Bathead]

Oh man, this again...
Didn't Nolan say Two-Face was deader than a doornail?

I don't know, did he? Show me an EXACT QUOTE where Nolan says specifically that Two-Face is dead..