The Dark Knight Rises Unpopular Opinion but I hate The Christopher Nolan Dark Knight Trilogy

[WolverineHunt01]

Im not going to crap all over them, mostly since i dont care that much for Batman, but I saw Batman begins and it was ok, didnt knock me out and i only went to see the second film because of all the DC villains, Two-Face is my favorite, so i wanted to see that and it was Heath Ledgers last role, it was ok, abit long, i remember sitting in the theater looking at my watch thinking this is going long, alot of talking, and was absolutely uninterested in the third film, to this day i have not seen it, again, i get people like what they like, but this assumption Nolan is come geniuos is vastly over rated, they were ok films, nothing to write home about, but, again, to each their own.

Not to mention that the Dark Knight Trilogy basically is the reason why we have the disaster that is the DCEU, so gives me all the more of a reason to hate them.

 

[WolverineHunt01]

In the short time you've been here, the only thing you have been doing is creating threads to complain about things or to give your "hot takes". To the point that it seems like an act, hence the word shtick. Basically it just seems like you're complaining just to complain.

Kinda sad that the best version of Bane in a motion picture is El Macho in Despicable Me 2.

And that’s pitiful considering that Despicable Me 2 is supposed to be a kids film.

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Hot take but…

X-Men Origins Wolverine > Eternals.

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Hot take: Recasting Wolverine is a terrible idea

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While what happened to Deadpool in Origins Wolverine was terrible, I’ll still take it over Galactus in Rise of the Silver Surfer.

At least Deadpool started off fine early on in Origins Wolverine it wasn’t until the third act where they completely mishandled the character. Not to mention, you only had to wait seven years for them to make a proper film adaptation of Deadpool. With Galactus, he was terrible the moment he...

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I’m just stating my honest opinion and expressing myself.

 

[Awest66]

Not to mention that the Dark Knight Trilogy basically is the reason why we have the disaster that is the DCEU, so gives me all the more of a reason to hate them.

That's being completely unfair. The TDK Trilogy is no more "responsible" for the DCEU than the MCU was.

 

[Babillygunn]

Score: Batman 89
Gotham: Batman 89
Batsuit: Batman 89
Batvoice: Batman 89
Batmobile: Batman 89
Action: Batman 89
Love Interest: Batman 89
Dialogue: Tie
Cinematography: TDK
Gordon: TDK
Joker: TDK

Story: TDK
Faithfulness of interpretation: TDK

These two are the most important to me.

And neither films had great action or love interests.

 

[Babillygunn]

Not to mention that the Dark Knight Trilogy basically is the reason why we have the disaster that is the DCEU, so gives me all the more of a reason to hate them.

Not true at all.

The DCEU was a knee jerk reaction to Marvel’s universe and not TDK.

 

[Babillygunn]

I’d argue and say that 89 Joker inspired TAS Joker.

I said TDK is faithful to the characterization in the source material of the comics. I don’t see how Jack Napier inspiring BTAS Joker (which I don’t see at all btw) has anything to do with that.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Story: TDK
Faithfulness of interpretation: TDK

These two are the most important to me.

And neither films had great action or love interests.

I thought the action in Batman 89 was pretty good.

Not Jason Bourne good but fairly thrilling and fun.

 

[Babillygunn]

I thought the action in Batman 89 was pretty good.

Not Jason Bourne good but fairly thrilling and fun.

I liked it at the time. But it’s definitely limited by the suit. Keaton’s clearly couldn’t move very well in that thing.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Batman 89's influence is all over Batman TAS.

Gotham, the music, the batmobile, etc

 

[Herofan]

As someone who loves Joker I think both Nicholson and Ledger had moments but both felt pretty off, Nicholson just too old and too often goofy-hammy and Ledger just too thuggish and pure evil and not at all funny/charming.

Love Interest: Batman 89

LOL, I think not many people like either Vicki or Rachel and in TDK Rachel was, I think a few weird awkward/forced scenes aside, not really love interest, or she somehow both was and wasn't.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As someone who loves Joker I think both Nicholson and Ledger had moments but both felt pretty off, Nicholson just too old and too often goofy-hammy and Ledger just too thuggish and pure evil and not at all funny/charming.



LOL, I think not many people like either Vicki or Rachel and in TDK Rachel was, I think a few weird awkward/forced scenes aside, not really love interest, or she somehow both was and wasn't.

Vicki Vale served her purpose. She was supposed to fought over and rescued. Batman's equal would come later with Catwoman.

 

[BoredGuy]

As someone who loves Joker I think both Nicholson and Ledger had moments but both felt pretty off, Nicholson just too old and too often goofy-hammy and Ledger just too thuggish and pure evil and not at all funny/charming.

Now that I definitely disagree with
I thought Ledger's Joker was hilarious, in a dark way

Wayy funnier than any other Joker imo, with Nicholson's goofy pun-humor at #2

 

[Babillygunn]

Now that I definitely disagree with
I thought Ledger's Joker was hilarious, in a dark way

Wayy funnier than any other Joker imo, with Nicholson's goofy pun-humor at #2

Agreed. I’d say that Joker is never “charming.”
He is more a force of nature that demands your attention. You’re repulsed by him but you cannot take your eyes off of him.

Ledger fits that bill completely.

Joker’s go-to weapon is a crowbar. He can certainly be thuggish at times.

 

[Babillygunn]

Batman 89's influence is all over Batman TAS.

Gotham, the music, the batmobile, etc

But aren’t these superficial? The characterizations were fairly different.

I say this as someone who absolutely loves ‘89.

One of my favorite things about Batman was a that he is somewhat malleable. ‘66 to ‘89 to TDK to The Batman. In their own ways, they are all valid interpretations. My only problem with’89 was that he was reckless in his disregard for human life, which is usually a no-go for me, but ‘89 hid it better than the gross failure that was BvS

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

But aren’t these superficial? The characterizations were fairly different.

I say this as someone who absolutely loves ‘89.

One of my favorite things about Batman was a that he is somewhat malleable. ‘66 to ‘89 to TDK to The Batman. In their own ways, they are all valid interpretations. My only problem with’89 was that he was reckless in his disregard for human life, which is usually a no-go for me, but ‘89 hid it better than the gross failure that was BvS

Atmosphere/Setting is a major reason BTAS works. Also I don't think music/score are superficial.

Take away the music/score from A New Hope and it's a totally different movie.

 

[The Joker]

At least Batman 89 Joker felt like the Joker and wasn’t just Osama McDonald.

I feel like your familiarity with the Joker is severely limited. Read this;

Jokerfan's Blog

jokerfans.blogspot.com

 

[WolverineHunt01]

Not true at all.

The DCEU was a knee jerk reaction to Marvel’s universe and not TDK.

Then how do the **** do you explain why man of steel was so dark and gritty?

 

[sdgrandia86]

Wasn't Man of Steel supposed to be set in the Nolanverse before Snyder went the Batfleck route?

Anyhow, I like the stories and grounded nature of Nolans movies as well as it's impressive cast. Bale as Batman was just horrible. He sounded like Sly's Rambo trying to be Batman with that voice.

 

[Babillygunn]

Then how do the **** do you explain why man of steel was so dark and gritty?

Um Zack Snyder is an edgelord man child?

 

[Venom 1988]

Then how do the **** do you explain why man of steel was so dark and gritty?

Cause they hired Snyder.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Two-Face was "wasted"? He had a great arc in TDK with a great performance by Aaron Eckhart. Doesn't get enough love.

But the cartoonish goof in Batman Forever was "better"?

 

[Drizzle]

Jesus Christ, this thread...

 

[Babillygunn]

Jesus Christ, this thread...

Tell me about it.

 

[RokMeAmadeus]

It INSISTS upon itself!

 

[Filmfreak]

It never seizes to amaze me how people equate action with fighting choreography and nothing else. Just going by The Dark Knight alone, I cannot fathom how people see iconic scenes like the bank heist, the truck chase, the batpod reveal, the hospital blowing up, Lau's kidnapping, all in glorious IMAX, and think this is a movie with mediocre action. Action isn't fist fights, it's mainly suspense and tension and each film in the trilogy, especially the second one, has impeccable tension from beginning to end.