Venom has to be in Spiderman3

I have to say that the Green Goblin hated Spider-Man, after he was rejected. I don't think he would go to all the trouble of kidnapping and trying to mess with his head if he didn't. (Sure, Ock did too, but for a different reason. Revenge=hatred.)
 
The way they should do it is that the end of the third movie, Peter and MJ will be having their wedding and then the symbiote attacks Peter and then in the fourth movie it will attach onto Brock and there, you have Venom. The fith movie should be Carnage
 
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I definitely want to see this
 
I see it like this:

SM3 GG2 and wedding (hopefully relationship problems because if Raimi does not tackle that issue hte new guy who will be action oritented won't because the second trilogy will be inferior unfortunately and it is too bad because I wanted Raimi and Tobey to do Lizard).

SM4 will have Lizard and black stuff. It ends with Lizard cured and the black stuff getting on rival Eddie Brock.

SM5 is Venom baby! :(

ANd SM6 is Venom and Carnage for a not so graceful end to the series.
 
My opinion on the venom in spidey 3. As much of a fan i am of venom i dont think it has a good chance but im not counting it out yet. Personaly i think they should do it for this reason only. They might not have a chance to make a sm4 or sm6 for him to be in it. It sounds nice that there will be 6 sm movies but i dont think its possible i think there would be a possible chance that they could do a venom origin in the 3rd movie ,but once again this is hollywood it would probly not be the original venom origin. I think that it shouldnt take like 2 movies just to bring in a villian i mean if that was true there would have been 2 spidey movies to entroduce gg. personally this is just me i dont wanna see another goblin (i know someones gonna hate me for sayin that).
 
DACrowe said:
I see it like this:

SM3 GG2 and wedding (hopefully relationship problems because if Raimi does not tackle that issue hte new guy who will be action oritented won't because the second trilogy will be inferior unfortunately and it is too bad because I wanted Raimi and Tobey to do Lizard).

SM4 will have Lizard and black stuff. It ends with Lizard cured and the black stuff getting on rival Eddie Brock.

SM5 is Venom baby! :(

ANd SM6 is Venom and Carnage for a not so graceful end to the series.

I seriously hope that Raimi and Tobey stick around for more than 3 films. I can't picture any other director, nor can I picture any other actor portraying Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

I have and just like a lot of other people have gotten used to Raimi, Tobey, Dunst, and Franco. But the loss of Dunst I can deal with, but Raimi has brought this franchise to life and Tobey is the only Peter/Spidey I know.

If anything after SM3 they should take some time off and just give Spider-Man a break before revisiting the story again. The next one comes out in 2007 right? And Tobey is 29 right? So he'll be 32 by the time that comes out and I guess I can see where they want to get someone new. If they must get someone new, then Raimi should still direct it and Tobey should make a cameo appearance at least.

SM3 should have The Lizard. I don't want to see another Goblin just yet, give the Lizard his own movie and have Harry show up at the end in a cliffhanger sequence.

SM4- Green Goblin and maybe a secondary villain? Scorpion maybe?

SM5- Venom
 
Venom for spidey 3 is a horrible and ******ed idea, period! For 3 it should be lizard and gg2, at the end bring in John Jameson bringing back a black ooze (symbiot) from space, and as the film ends, fading to black, you hear venom's roar-cry or whatever, classic stuff. Oh yeah and btw, eddie brock should be introduced and have his character well developed during spidey 3 for things to flow well for future films, namely spidey 4.
 
What I personally would love to see is....Venom. Granted, i'm a huge Venom fan. But you have to look at this from a box office point of view. People, normal people (not us comic book geeks :p), don't want to see the GG again. Harry or not, it's not good marketing stratgey. The movie would be Spidey 1 all over again. Harry gets powers, goes after Peter, then MJ, and then a big battle royal happens where he dies. Now personally, even though i'm a Spidey fan, even I don't want to see a movie about that. I'd watch it, but I probbably wouldn't enjoy it that much.

In an ideal world we get atleast 4 movies, Venom's the 3rd, closure to the Osborn/Green Goblin legacy in the 4th, and all during the 3rd they could have a small side plot about harry's growing drug/alcohal problem, leading into a completely mental breakdown for Spidey 4, where he takes on the mantle of Green Goblin (2nd) and goes after Peter. BUT you must remember Sam's made it pretty clear that Sony Pictures doesn't want more than 3, and neither does Tobey or Kirsten.

This is what I think is the best bet.....Have the movie be set a couple years after the 2nd, at the beggining have peter graduate from university (at that time he would be done his fourth year in college, give or take a few months). Then somewhere during the movie have him propose to MJ. Somewhere near the beggining they would have to introduce the symbiote, for this i'd either use the 90s Spidey animated series storyline (IE: Brought back to space by John Jameson or some other astronaut), OR they could use a similar/variation of the Ultimate Spider-Man symbiote plot. Meaning it would be an invention, possibly government created.

After you have it brought back from wherever, find some way for Peter to come into contact with it (obviously), all the while doing some subtle Brock loses career and hates Spider-Man for it plotline, possibly a variation of the comic book version. News Paper Headline: "TRUE Sin Eater Exposed...by Spider-Man!". You wouldn't actually need to show the fight between them, but it would be neat if they could fit it in. Then have Eddie walking down the dark streets at night only to find a notice saying he has to vacate his apartment psot-haste. Then entering to hear a message on the answering machine from his ex-wife talking about the divorce settlement.

Now, during the movie have Peter struggle with control of the symbiote, only to find out it's trying to take him over (most likely through angry impluses, as well as possibly yelling at Aunt May or MJ). Have some flashbacks to Peter as a child, hopefully limiting Uncle Ben's influence over the plotline (that plot is over-used). Do the whole Brock goes to chapel only to join with a rejected symbiote story. Then cut to the next scene, which occurs sometime after, with Peter and MJ moving into their new apartment (not yet married, but soon to be). Then have Venom approach MJ and scare her in her new home (like the classic spidey story), have her deathly frightened and whatnot.

Venom then plays some mind games with Peter (Threatens to reveal his identity, approaches his Aunt, etc). A huge battle occurs, Venom loses badly, but lives (or not), but if he lives that could run into the rumored "Venom" movie (where i'd like to see him battle it out with Carnage). BAM! There's 2 hours gone already. Now make the movie 2 and a half hours long and focus the last part on Harry breaking down and going after Peter, only to crash his wedding (which he had recieved an invite to). Yet another huge battle takes place, Harry (much stronger than his father, because of an enhanced formula) about to kill Peter, when suddenly his heart gives out, and he goes critical, due to the imperfect new formula, and then he dies in a hospital bed.

Okay, that's msot of another half an hour gone, and at the end show Peter and MJ (both wearing wedding rings/bands/whatever), at Harry's funeral (talking about how familiar this all seems). Now ofcourse there would be alot of other things in the movie, but that's just the basic plot. There's your movie. The perfect ending, both happy (because of the marriage) as well as sad (because of Harry unfortunate death).

The main plot would be focussed around Venom/The symbiote though, since alot of people don't want to see another movie devoted to the Green Goblin. The Lizard could make a good movie, but the plot can only be played out so long because the lizard is subject to base animal instincts, and can't really control his actions. Venom not only would make a great movie villain, but he has alot of fans, and would bring the movie a darker tone.

But hey, those are just my thoughts. :venom:
 
By how everyone is going here we are never going to see venom "Ever."

I don't want to be an old disgruntled man 10 years from now finally seeing a venom movie.
 
did anyone read the december issue of wizard because there is a poll of who should be the villian and guess which who led with 52%..... venom.
 
Nero_Ordin8619 said:
did anyone read the december issue of wizard because there is a poll of who should be the villian and guess which who led with 52%..... venom.
I know....that means half of the people want Venom to b in it...
 
then why can't raimi listen and stop his bs excuse at a hobgoblin.!!!!!!!!
 
Nero_Ordin8619 said:
then why can't raimi listen and stop his bs excuse at a hobgoblin.!!!!!!!!
Hobgoblin?..What do you mean?..He want him to be in it?
 
Nero_Ordin8619 said:
then why can't raimi listen and stop his bs excuse at a hobgoblin.!!!!!!!!
first off i think you mean GG2 because Harry never was the hobgoblin second he knows this may be his last movie and that a good venom storyline would take probably 2 movies, and that its too early for venom
 
Truth is that we dont know nothing for sure,the film isnt out for 3 years and Raimi will decide what's best but at the moment the "it has to be gg2" brigade have the facts on their side but the fact is If you take a worldwide poll Venom would be the overwelming choice for sm3 and fox may push raimi's hand as buisness is buisness and "give the people what they want" is the way to do good buisness.
 
Yes, there is giving the majority of people what they want but then there is abandoning two movies worth of build up to please these people. Now I don't think Sony would like to damage a franchise like that.
 
Well only time will tell as to what fox will do but i guess my point is don't rule out the possibility of seeing both venom and gg2 in sm3;)
 
Fox aren't the company behind Spider-man it's Sony. Anyway the first two movies were dealt with great care by everyone involved, Sam was given a lot of leway with the movie and it proved to be very sucsseful, I don't think they are going to revoke that leway now.
 
ooooppppss!!!! your right about fox i had just been on the FF board and i got the wrong company:) Still though do you not want a second villain?
And sam himself hasn't ruled out venom.;)
 
Well I would like to see a secondary villain such as Lizard, Scorpion, Electro, Sandman etc However I do not want to see Venom in 3. I am not a huge Venom fan, but I expect him to be in the movies sooner or later. IMO Venom needs a good set up movie which should be 4 so he can appear in 5. Venom shouldn't be in 3 aswell as the Goblin. What's the point of throwing out all the big guns straight away? I think too many people are eager to see Venom in a movie that they are willing to not give the character the sole villain role, which I think is a mistake. He should be the sole villain and have it concentrate on him and not to have to fight for time with the Goblin. Sort out the whole Goblin legacy in 3 and then move onto Symbiotes in 4.
 
OtepApe said:
Well I would like to see a secondary villain such as Lizard, Scorpion, Electro, Sandman etc However I do not want to see Venom in 3. I am not a huge Venom fan, but I expect him to be in the movies sooner or later. IMO Venom needs a good set up movie which should be 4 so he can appear in 5. Venom shouldn't be in 3 aswell as the Goblin. What's the point of throwing out all the big guns straight away? I think too many people are eager to see Venom in a movie that they are willing to not give the character the sole villain role, which I think is a mistake. He should be the sole villain and have it concentrate on him and not to have to fight for time with the Goblin. Sort out the whole Goblin legacy in 3 and then move onto Symbiotes in 4.
Thats a very good point,I just think you could introduce the black suit during 3 as spidey is battling GG2 and have him lose it during the movie and it end up on brock,the last shot of the movie could be eddie watching peter and then a close up to his face and it becomes venom.btw This is not a story just a way they could use 3 to set up Venom as the lead villain in 4 and then venom and carnage in 5.My choice for secondary villain would be either scorpion,sandman or hydro but i'm not very keen on the lizard
 
OtepApe said:
Well I would like to see a secondary villain such as Lizard, Scorpion, Electro, Sandman etc However I do not want to see Venom in 3. I am not a huge Venom fan, but I expect him to be in the movies sooner or later. IMO Venom needs a good set up movie which should be 4 so he can appear in 5. Venom shouldn't be in 3 aswell as the Goblin. What's the point of throwing out all the big guns straight away? I think too many people are eager to see Venom in a movie that they are willing to not give the character the sole villain role, which I think is a mistake. He should be the sole villain and have it concentrate on him and not to have to fight for time with the Goblin. Sort out the whole Goblin legacy in 3 and then move onto Symbiotes in 4.
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