Venom origin revealed!

[mushdb3388]

I have the issue he is talking about, it's EMPIRE Magazine (November 2006). Here are the relevant quotes concerning Venom. Note: They actually quote the 2004 interview at first, as i have...

"What about Venom?" we ask. Raimi's face wrinkles in disgust and suddenly the most mild-mannered man in movies lunges forward, grabs Empire's Dictaphone and holds it to his lips. "Venom", he announces, slowly and deliberatly. "Is for squares".

Just in case you're wondering, Venom is actually a symbiotic alien brought back to Earth by astronaut John Jameson (son of Daily Bugle proprietor J. Jonah Jameson, last seen in spider-man 2), which latches onto parker, bonding with him and becoming his new costume. After the living suit -which no-one knows is alive - tries to possess Parker, and is then rejected, it foists itself instead onto the emotionally fragile Brock, becoming a force to be reckoned with, a creature with all of Spider-Man's powers and none of his moral strictures. Venom was an instant smash hit, and always seemed like a shoo-in for a 'Spidey' film, but for Raimi's intransigence.

"Now I've seen Topher Grace perform him and saw what Alvin Sargent did with the script," says a sheepish Raimi, "I really like him now. They really filled out Eddie Brock into a very meaningful character. Yes, Venom is an alien life force, but the humanity really comes through in Topher's performance. Tobey has a great energy with him in their few scenes together."

...will up the ante on photo-real CG humans, while Venom - or, as Raimi dubs him the "wild goof from outer space" - should also eat up plenty of the FX budget.

 

[homestarrunner]

can not wait!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

i cant wait for may 4th.

 

[ultimatefan]

So, they kinda went with the TAS origin, but without the shuttle landing on a bridge, nice.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

So, they kinda went with the TAS origin, but without the shuttle landing on a bridge, nice.

yeah, im glad they used that origin, it makes alot more sense.

 

[Karea07]

it's gonna be sweet

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I have looked around and couldn't find this posted already, but please spare me and just kill it if it's on here already.

In this month's Empire movie magazine, there was a well written article with a few interesting tidbits, including the following...


Nov '06 p. 78

"Just in case you're wondering, Venom is actually a symbiotic alien, brought back to Earth by astronaut John Jameson (son of Daily Bugle proprietor J. Jonah Jameson, last seen in Spider-Man 2), which latches onto Parker, bonding with him and becoming his new costume. After the living suit - which no-one knows is alive - tries to possess Parker, and is then rejected, it foists itself instead onto the emotionally fragile Brock, becoming a force to be reckoned with, a creature with all of Spider-Man's powers and none of his moral strictures."

Raimi quote: "I really like him now. They really filled out Eddie Brock into a very meaningful character. Yes, Venom is an alien life force, but the humanity really comes through in Topher's performance. Tobey has a great energy with him in their few scenes together."

And Venom was called by Raimi the "wild goof from outer space".

These were all directly quoted from the article and I would appreciate it if someone out there is able to check it out as well and lend some credibility.
I am just personally glad that they decided to go with the alien origin and not make up some crazy new idea that would disgrace the source material. When I heard that this movie would be more of a departure from the comic books than any of the previous chapters in the saga for added realism, I was dreading that a new origin would be in store for the character. Good to know...

The article also gave details about some of the special effects work and the amount of CGI that was going into the characters and some other details that were nice to learn. I would highly recommend the article to anyone who cares.

Kindred speaks only truth, this is all in the new Empire.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

In the Spider-Man VG for the N64 and PS1 they pronounced it Sym-bee-oat

It is also pornounced the same in the sequel to that and in the show

 

[Doomriderr666]

Actually now that I think of it, it would be cool to see Spidey try to save the space shuttle with jameson's son at the beginning of the movie... but i know they won't completely copy the animated series. That would be a great way to start off with a bang

 

[Jubba]

maybe a meteor with the symbiote on it crashes INTO the shuttle as it is heading back to earth, thereby causing the shuttle to need a crash-landing

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Actually now that I think of it, it would be cool to see Spidey try to save the space shuttle with jameson's son at the beginning of the movie... but i know they won't completely copy the animated series. That would be a great way to start off with a bang

its great that they are making the symbiote come back to earth with john jamieson in the shuttle, adds more perfectness to the movie.

 

[Venomfan]

"Tobey has a great energy with him in their FEW scenes together."

dang, speculation was right, o well better then no venom i guess, unless they really do him badly, then it would be better without venom

 

[Lucky6]

maybe a meteor with the symbiote on it crashes INTO the shuttle as it is heading back to earth, thereby causing the shuttle to need a crash-landing

DANG IT!! that's what i was going to say lol

no but really ive been thinking about this for a while now. The symbiote comes from the meteore, meteore hits John Jameson's shuttle on the way there (wherever 'there' is) or on the way back to earth causing the shuttle to have a deathly crash-landing... which is where spider-man comes in, saves john jameson and everyone's happy because spider-man saved the day...which probably leads onto the celebration scene, mainly being gratitude from J.J. for him saving his son etc etc

but also in the newest issue of Empire also has more info on that which i'll try and type up off the top of my head as i don't have the magazine with me right now (a friend wanted to borrow it yesturday and im still waiting for it back). but it's basically talking about the role of MJ and goes on to say something like this:

and it's all Mary Janes fault in a way. you see if she hadn't left John Jameson at the alter looking like a pilhard to get back with peter, John Jameson wouldn't of shuttled off into space to bring back some lovely black goop which later attaches itself to peter parker...

it was a little more detailed than that but thats bassically it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

"Tobey has a great energy with him in their FEW scenes together."

dang, speculation was right, o well better then no venom i guess, unless they really do him badly, then it would be better without venom

we all know that one of the scenes peter and brock are in is the daily bugle two times, first with peter without the symbiote and second with peter with the symbiote, and the final battle between spidey and venom.

 

[dark_b]

we all know that one of the scenes peter and brock are in is the daily bugle two times, first with peter without the symbiote and second with peter with the symbiote, and the final battle between spidey and venom.

arent there set pics of topher and tobey on the street? topher has a shirt on.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

arent there set pics of topher and tobey on the street? topher has a shirt on.

yeah there are, those set pictures are from when brock kidnaps mj in the taxi.

 

[dark_b]

yeah there are, those set pictures are from when brock kidnaps mj in the taxi.

really?

why is peter there ?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

really?

why is peter there ?

im not sure why peters there, he could be in the scene, most likley not though.

 

[dark_b]

im not sure why peters there, he could be in the scene, most likley not though.

than why is he there?

 

[ryan dube]

What they mean by FEW scenes that Tobey and Topher have together, are the ones where the actors are both on the same set in the same scene. Not CG spidey vs CG Venom, or stunt double Spidey vs Stunt double Venom, or Tobey vs CG Venom or well you get the idea...

 

[Syncos]

I have a question.
Is it Sym-bee-oat or Sym-bee-ot?

sym‧bi‧ote /ˈsɪm

biˌoʊt, -baɪ-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sim-bee-oht]
–noun Biology
an organism living in a state of symbiosis.

 

[Doomriderr666]

How is it known that Eddie kidnaps MJ?

 

[gtkilla]

How is it known that Eddie kidnaps MJ?

By this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsT_qKKUolU

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

What they mean by FEW scenes that Tobey and Topher have together, are the ones where the actors are both on the same set in the same scene. Not CG spidey vs CG Venom, or stunt double Spidey vs Stunt double Venom, or Tobey vs CG Venom or well you get the idea...

if they are both on set togeather that doesnt mean scenes, a few scenes togeather means that topher and tobey are togeather in the scenes as peter parker/spiderman and topher as eddie brock/venom.

 

[ryan dube]

if they are both on set togeather that doesnt mean scenes, a few scenes togeather means that topher and tobey are togeather in the scenes as peter parker/spiderman and topher as eddie brock/venom.

You might want to go back and reread my post, maybe a couple times if you don't get it the first few reads... I believe in you, BE THE POST