Venom Revamp

One of the best liberties they've taken is to have Peter and Eddie as friends. When I saw them as pals in the first ep, I know it would make Eddie being Venom that much more difficult for Peter to handle.
 
One of the best liberties they've taken is to have Peter and Eddie as friends. When I saw them as pals in the first ep, I know it would make Eddie being Venom that much more difficult for Peter to handle.

Exactly.

:up:
 
One of the best liberties they've taken is to have Peter and Eddie as friends. When I saw them as pals in the first ep, I know it would make Eddie being Venom that much more difficult for Peter to handle.
Indeed, it's going to be sad seeing to people who used to be friends fight eachother.
 
I suppose that means Harry won't be the Goblin in this series then, since his schtick will have been filled in by Venom.
 
Not necessarily. Eddie's hatred will be a cause of Spider-Man &/or Peter, or at least Eddie's own actions, but will blame eveything on Spider-Man or Peter Parker.

Harry Osborn's hatred will be from the neglect of his father, the jealousy of Peter's getting Norman's attention, and the death (?) of Norman.
 
Not necessarily. Eddie's hatred will be a cause of Spider-Man &/or Peter, or at least Eddie's own actions, but will blame eveything on Spider-Man or Peter Parker.

Harry Osborn's hatred will be from the neglect of his father, the jealousy of Peter's getting Norman's attention, and the death (?) of Norman.
Exactly my thoughts, I.R. Venom. :up:
 
Yeah, but background reasonings for their actions aside wouldn't both of them still amount to the "former friends now arch-enemies" schtick?

Venom having the Goblin's schtick (knowing Peter's secrets and neutralizing the Spider-Sense) was okay when he was introduced because by then there hadn't been anyone who knew Peter's secret as a villain for years. Unless something happens to get Venom out of the series having both be around at the same time will make one redundant.

Then again Venom seems to reply more on pure power and never thought about revealing Peter's ID, whereas Harry's torture of Peter was most psychological/emotional (Robot Parents anyone?) and he was always threatening to reveal his secrets with Peter unable to do anything about it.
 
Yeah, but background reasonings for their actions aside wouldn't both of them still amount to the "former friends now arch-enemies" schtick?

Venom having the Goblin's schtick (knowing Peter's secrets and neutralizing the Spider-Sense) was okay when he was introduced because by then there hadn't been anyone who knew Peter's secret as a villain for years. Unless something happens to get Venom out of the series having both be around at the same time will make one redundant.

Then again Venom seems to reply more on pure power and never thought about revealing Peter's ID, whereas Harry's torture of Peter was most psychological/emotional (Robot Parents anyone?) and he was always threatening to reveal his secrets with Peter unable to do anything about it.

Venom would have ran his course by the time Harry dons the goblin costume. Its not that bad. There have been many similarities, coincidences, and redone schticks in the Spidey universe (JJJ creating or funding superviallians like the Scorpion and Spencer Smythe, many Daily Bugle employees being supervillains themselevs or having ties to the criminal underworld, having multiple villains who have similar powers or similar backstories or similar goals).

Also, did you know that, either by chance or on purpose, when Marvel finally gave Eddie Brock a detailed history, it parelled Harry's history almost perfectly?

1) Both Harry & Eddie had uncaring fathers. The two boys/men would grow up doing everything they could to impress their dads, but nothing was ever good enough.

2) Both Harry & Eddie's mothers died during or after child birth.

3) Although its never revealed what Eddie's father did for a living, it was obvious that Eddie's dad was wealthy, same as Harry's dad. All that money, and no fatherly guidance.

4) Let's not forget that the Eddie/Peter relation also exsisted in the Ultimate title, as well as the Harry/Peter one.
 
Yeah, but background reasonings for their actions aside wouldn't both of them still amount to the "former friends now arch-enemies" schtick?

Venom having the Goblin's schtick (knowing Peter's secrets and neutralizing the Spider-Sense) was okay when he was introduced because by then there hadn't been anyone who knew Peter's secret as a villain for years. Unless something happens to get Venom out of the series having both be around at the same time will make one redundant.

Then again Venom seems to reply more on pure power and never thought about revealing Peter's ID, whereas Harry's torture of Peter was most psychological/emotional (Robot Parents anyone?) and he was always threatening to reveal his secrets with Peter unable to do anything about it.
Venom says that he doesn't want to reveal Peter's secret identity, because then he would have more competition for Spidey's head.
 
Yeah, that's sort of a problem for me. If Venom really wanted to torment Peter he'd just tell everyone his secrets and ruin him that way. As it is it sort of makes Venom out to be less intelligent than Norman or Harry, because they appreciate that this would actually hurt Peter deeper than just killing him. All Venom cares out is the satisfaction of killing him with his bare hands.
 
I dunno, I have more respect for the guy who uses his brains more than his brawn. That's what Spidey is about more or less, he's got great powers but wins and lives mostly by his intelligence.
 
Well the writers for the Spectacular Spider-Man said Venom was going to be very evil and manipulative. So it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.
 
Evil and manipulative? That's new for him...

Hopefully we won't be subjected to his mega-hypocritical "protector of innocents" routine.
 
Venom says that he doesn't want to reveal Peter's secret identity, because then he would have more competition for Spidey's head.
the 90's series did it the best by having Venom torturing Spidey with his knowledge, showing up at Aunt Mays and at the date with MJ, and Pete's just freaking out that Venoms gonna leak something. That was great.

the 90's series also did a way better job i thought by having Peter and Brock in a competition before he became Venom, none of this friends crap
 
The 90's Venom was sweet, how he was everywhere torturing Pete. He had to finish it as soon as possible.
 
Well the writers for the Spectacular Spider-Man said Venom was going to be very evil and manipulative. So it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.

If that's true, my wish has been fulfilled. I wanted that sort of angle for Venom, not just mindless beat 'em up game between Spidey and Venom.
 
If that's true, my wish has been fulfilled. I wanted that sort of angle for Venom, not just mindless beat 'em up game between Spidey and Venom.
Well, judging by Eddie Brock's relationship with Peter, it really seems as though they were going to add more to him from the start.
 
Well the writers for the Spectacular Spider-Man said Venom was going to be very evil and manipulative. So it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.


That's weird...because in the pics we've seen, Venom is a huge mofo; how is he going to be manipulative with that size? I would just assume he'll just beat the crap out of Spidey instead.
 
That's weird...because in the pics we've seen, Venom is a huge mofo; how is he going to be manipulative with that size? I would just assume he'll just beat the crap out of Spidey instead.
He'll do both. His size really doesn't matter. You could be bigger than the Hulk anbd still be manipulative.
 
That's weird...because in the pics we've seen, Venom is a huge mofo; how is he going to be manipulative with that size? I would just assume he'll just beat the crap out of Spidey instead.

Because the two are mutually exclusive? You must have taken Logic in school.
 

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